Q & A FOR OR1GIN

prebzmaister said:
is it possible to be a non-responder or something? half way through my second bottle, and to be fairly honest, I have not noticed anything. Sleep is the same, hunger is the same, and there is no sudden jump in strength progression. I am taking three caps, one in the morning before breakfast together with 60mg of laxo, and two caps post-workout togheter with 80mg of laxo, eating slightly over maintance calorie wise.
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I experienced the same thing.
 
Fareal04 said:
I experienced the same thing.
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Some people don't like chocolate so anything is possible.

But seriously so no supplement works as intended on 100% of users, some of it may be diet & routine but genetics & physiology play a big part in that too.
 
vascopro said:
Someone taking Origin + Ghar1ne (mk677)?

What do you think? Results? Sides?

Just started my third bottle of Origin.
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I did for a few weeks in PCT in October (3 caps OR1GIN & 1 GHAR1NE)... I noticed intense hunger, very deep sleep & strength was off the chain (multiple PRs every week) but ultimately dropped the stack because I could not keep my diet in check....
 
GNO said:
I did for a few weeks in PCT in October (3 caps OR1GIN & 1 GHAR1NE)... I noticed intense hunger, very deep sleep & strength was off the chain (multiple PRs every week) but ultimately dropped the stack because I could not keep my diet in check....
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We're you taking the 1 cap of Ghar1ne at night just before bed? With our without food?

Did you feel you lost any fat even eating more? Or at least not gain any?
 
vascopro said:
We're you taking the 1 cap of Ghar1ne at night just before bed? With our without food?

Did you feel you lost any fat even eating more? Or at least not gain any?
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Right before bed within 30 mins of my largest meal (post workout).

I did gain a bit of fat but was in a min 500cal/day surplus. Considering my surplus it was much less than I expected
 
GNO said:
Right before bed within 30 mins of my largest meal (post workout).

I did gain a bit of fat but was in a min 500cal/day surplus. Considering my surplus it was much less than I expected
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Thanks!

Starting next week when it arrives.

I was going to do ARA + ORIGIN but I've been dealing with neck injury / pain so the ARA was not the best option until I fully recover...

That's why the Ghar1ne option.
I thought about some Strength unleashed too... But ended up with the Ghar1ne.
Which would you pick to help the injury / reab?
 
vascopro said:
Thanks!

Starting next week when it arrives.

I was going to do ARA + ORIGIN but I've been dealing with neck injury / pain so the ARA was not the best option until I fully recover...

That's why the Ghar1ne option.
I thought about some Strength unleashed too... But ended up with the Ghar1ne.
Which would you pick to help the injury / reab?
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DSU may help a little more but neither will significantly expedite a neck injury. I would expect OR1GIN to do the most for the recovery.
 
First week back training after 4 weeks off over xmas/nye getting fat.

Stacking origin, kingsblood , triumph & follidrone 2.

Doms seem to be basically non existent. We know how strange that is given how bad leg day is after a month off.

This recomp combined with the fact I'm meal prepping for the first time in my life, should be fun!
 
vascopro said:
Thanks!

Starting next week when it arrives.

I was going to do ARA + ORIGIN but I've been dealing with neck injury / pain so the ARA was not the best option until I fully recover...

That's why the Ghar1ne option.
I thought about some Strength unleashed too... But ended up with the Ghar1ne.
Which would you pick to help the injury / reab?
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What's the neck injury/has that been addressed by a professional? I probably would have gone osta over gharine for assisting with tissue healing though, but I don't know if you wanted to avoid anything suppressive given the rest of the stack.

Joshlm69 said:
First week back training after 4 weeks off over xmas/nye getting fat.

Stacking origin, kingsblood , triumph & follidrone 2.

Doms seem to be basically non existent. We know how strange that is given how bad leg day is after a month off.

This recomp combined with the fact I'm meal prepping for the first time in my life, should be fun!
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Sounds like a solid stack. And anything after a month off kills me, let alone legs lol. Keep us updated!
 
I am about a week into my PCT, (Clomid, superPCT & using a thurmo) and plan to add AlphamaxXT in about 2 weeks.
I'm kicking around the idea of running ORIGIN + XT + thurmo. Any overlap between ORIG1N and XT that I should be aware of?

Also, do you guys think ORIG1N is comparable to ABE or ARA or Anafuse?
 
I'm almost two months into my Origin, Triumph, and Anabeta Elite run.

I found a very small lump on my right testicle a few days ago. I obviously know that none of these caused it.. I want to make that clear to anyone who reads this.

Should I be okay to continue Origin until it goes away or I get it checked out? Or should I stop Origin until it's diagnosed or gone?

I'm not asking for medical advice, I do plan on seeing my doctor.
 
I've also got a smallish lump. Saw my doc about it ages ago, he couldn't really feel it but he basically said cancer down there will make the whole teste swell and the lump that I was feeling is more likely where the tube attaches to the teste and is common for the nodule or whatever it is to cause a lump similar to what I was feeling. It hasn't changed in shape or size since and that was probably a couple of years ago now when I first noticed it.

I'd still get yourself checked out for peace of mind but just sharing my experience...I don't think it would cause any harm to carry on as you are until such time either.
 
rascal14 said:
I'm almost two months into my Origin, Triumph, and Anabeta Elite run.

I found a very small lump on my right testicle a few days ago. I obviously know that none of these caused it.. I want to make that clear to anyone who reads this.

Should I be okay to continue Origin until it goes away or I get it checked out? Or should I stop Origin until it's diagnosed or gone?

I'm not asking for medical advice, I do plan on seeing my doctor.
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Get it checked since you always should AND keep on using Orig1n.
 
white_lie said:
I've also got a smallish lump. Saw my doc about it ages ago, he couldn't really feel it but he basically said cancer down there will make the whole teste swell and the lump that I was feeling is more likely where the tube attaches to the teste and is common for the nodule or whatever it is to cause a lump similar to what I was feeling. It hasn't changed in shape or size since and that was probably a couple of years ago now when I first noticed it.

I'd still get yourself checked out for peace of mind but just sharing my experience...I don't think it would cause any harm to carry on as you are until such time either.
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I came across a small lump above epididymis and when i tried to squeeze gently the lump it hurted actually.
They checked it with ultrasound and it was
epididymal cyst. Very common to have it and there is no need for sugery.

Like xtyler said, ALWAYS check it !
 
Been origin 6 days and started getting shortness of breath which is personally a tell tale sign of going hypo for me. Also think BP is taking a drop. Anything I can do aside from adding carbs since I personally stay below 25-30g each day
 
chedapalooza said:
Been origin 6 days and started getting shortness of breath which is personally a tell tale sign of going hypo for me. Also think BP is taking a drop. Anything I can do aside from adding carbs since I personally stay below 25-30g each day
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<30g carbs per day, sounds horrible.

But seriously, are you using any nitrates or other supps right now?
 
Q &amp; A FOR OR1GIN

Hypo sides got so bad I had no choice but to take a half a serving of man ISO Carb (straight dextrose 15g worth) felt almost instantly better
 
If any one wants to buy my bottle (one week missing) lmk. Not trying to take a supp that will force me to change my diet, this ones just not for me I guess
 
chedapalooza said:
If any one wants to buy my bottle (one week missing) lmk. Not trying to take a supp that will force me to change my diet, this ones just not for me I guess
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Maybe post this in the auction thread
 
Now it has 45 days with Or1gin. I'm stacking with Lecithin and ARA and I can say that have gained 2 kg with 150 calories. I eat very clean with no crap. Hunger is crazy, but I restrain myself because my abs I want to clear them ... But I find it hard to stop. What it is strange to me that satisfied me very easily.
I did not notice better sleep, but more safe recovery. Very few DOMS despite ARA, but no improvement in libido (43 years). Excellent muscle fullness, but I think it 's ARA
In 15 days I'll finish with Or1gin and I will start with Alphamax xt to stack with the last month of ARA.
One last thing: when I ate too much at a meal, my gastritis bothered me; I'm fine with Or1gin
 
enzo73 said:
Now it has 45 days with Or1gin. I'm stacking with Lecithin and ARA and I can say that have gained 2 kg with 150 calories. I eat very clean with no crap. Hunger is crazy, but I restrain myself because my abs I want to clear them ... But I find it hard to stop. What it is strange to me that satisfied me very easily.
I did not notice better sleep, but more safe recovery. Very few DOMS despite ARA, but no improvement in libido (43 years). Excellent muscle fullness, but I think it 's ARA
In 15 days I'll finish with Or1gin and I will start with Alphamax xt to stack with the last month of ARA.
One last thing: when I ate too much at a meal, my gastritis bothered me; I'm fine with Or1gin
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So it's pretty much working as expected. Enhanced recovery, improved digestion/nutrients uptake, Lean Body Mass gains.
I have to remind you all that this product is NOT meant to boost libido. We have GNO's pics for that.
 
Ran 2 bottles and loved the results. Body composition, sleep, recovery, digestion, even strength/endurance...all better than I had even hoped. However, I didn't realize just how much of an effect Or1gin was having on me until I stopped. Due to some long trips for a new job I just took, I haven't been on Or1gin for ~2 weeks (forgot to pack it with my other supps). I didn't realize just how much of an effect it was having on me until this. Muscle fullness and sleep in particular have suffered. I just started back up, and will not be making this mistake again...
 
So from anecdotal reports....ya'll are telling me that people are gaining strength in a deficit like they would be in a surplus??? Also, is the fullness and pump feeling sort of like PA? Or do you feel like you just got out of the gym the whole day like when you're on a cycle?

I've had my 2 bottles in my cupboard since October and will finally be starting it on Monday. I'll also be stacking it with HMB-CA and Test1fy and PowerMaxXT...I'll be in a 500-750 calorie deficit 5 days a week then maintenance probably the day before squats and deadlifts. If I can gain strength I'd be ecstatic.
 
hiimnotcool said:
So from anecdotal reports....ya'll are telling me that people are gaining strength in a deficit like they would be in a surplus??? Also, is the fullness and pump feeling sort of like PA? Or do you feel like you just got out of the gym the whole day like when you're on a cycle?

I've had my 2 bottles in my cupboard since October and will finally be starting it on Monday. I'll also be stacking it with HMB-CA and Test1fy and PowerMaxXT...I'll be in a 500-750 calorie deficit 5 days a week then maintenance probably the day before squats and deadlifts. If I can gain strength I'd be ecstatic.
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I had a jump in strength, then it became consistent but more than a normal surplus. Honestly it was 2 weeks before I noticed body comp effects, but I've gained 12lbs in the past 3&1/2 months and I think my body fat % is lower lol. I don't really have daily macros just go by how I feel, mostly surplus.
 
Lynks8 said:
Ran 2 bottles and loved the results. Body composition, sleep, recovery, digestion, even strength/endurance...all better than I had even hoped. However, I didn't realize just how much of an effect Or1gin was having on me until I stopped. Due to some long trips for a new job I just took, I haven't been on Or1gin for ~2 weeks (forgot to pack it with my other supps). I didn't realize just how much of an effect it was having on me until this. Muscle fullness and sleep in particular have suffered. I just started back up, and will not be making this mistake again...
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On the back of each bottle you can peel off a part of the label and read "You will miss me."
 
hiimnotcool said:
So from anecdotal reports....ya'll are telling me that people are gaining strength in a deficit like they would be in a surplus??? Also, is the fullness and pump feeling sort of like PA? Or do you feel like you just got out of the gym the whole day like when you're on a cycle?
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I was taking PA when I started Orig1n. The muscle fullness was more pronounced from the Or1gin for me. I can't speak to how the pump/fullness would be on a cycle, or compared to one (have not done one.. yet). I would say it was like how you described it, "like you just got out of the gym the whole day".

I also can't really speak to how it is on a deficit as I have been on a bulk/surplus.
 
Tylerclee said:
I had a jump in strength, then it became consistent but more than a normal surplus. Honestly it was 2 weeks before I noticed body comp effects, but I've gained 12lbs in the past 3&1/2 months and I think my body fat % is lower lol. I don't really have daily macros just go by how I feel, mostly surplus.
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One thing about the weight gain. I did see a jump in weight, actually quite a bit in the first couple of weeks. But I was also eating in a surplus trying to bulk. There was a recent article on the topic of bulking and one part of it covered the early spike in (scale) weight. I also feel like my BF% went down a little. If you believe the handheld Omron unit it went down by almost 2% while my weight went up by between 15 and 20 lbs (no, I do not believe those were all muscle gains).


This was the article I was referring to: Invalid Link Removed

Here is an excerpt from it, specifically around the spike in weight at the beginning of a bulk

Don’t Fear The Bulk

A properly structured bulk isn’t going to turn you into a sumo wrestler. Yes, you might see a weight spike the first week or two, but this generally isn’t fat gain, so stop panicking. When you start bulking and eating more calories, a few things occur:

Carb Intake Increases Water Weight:

Bulking generally involves eating more daily carbs. Extra carb intake increases bodyweight in several ways. First, your bloodstream will carry more water on average, due to the fact that it is trying to dilute the sugar running through your system. Second, extra water in the bloodstream leads to increased sodium retention. You are also eating more sodium than you did pre-bulk, due to increased food intake. This combination leads to more fluid in your kidneys, and more overall water retention. Lastly, increased carb intake leads to more intra-cellular water. This extra water retention can cause some nice dramatic swings on the scale, especially if you are moving from a cut to a bulk.

More Food Equals More Waste:

Eating more food means you are processing more waste. At any given moment you have a greater degree of raw materials in your system.

The Bottom Line

Don’t panic. When you start a bulk you are probably going to gain weight the first week or two. This is not fat. Relax. Most of it is water and waste.
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Lynks8 said:
Ran 2 bottles and loved the results. Body composition, sleep, recovery, digestion, even strength/endurance...all better than I had even hoped. However, I didn't realize just how much of an effect Or1gin was having on me until I stopped. Due to some long trips for a new job I just took, I haven't been on Or1gin for ~2 weeks (forgot to pack it with my other supps). I didn't realize just how much of an effect it was having on me until this. Muscle fullness and sleep in particular have suffered. I just started back up, and will not be making this mistake again...
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It is funny you posted this as I am going to intentionally take a break for maybe 2 weeks, just to gauge how much of my recomp is actual muscle and how much is Orig1n (increased glycogen stores, etc.). I was going to try to photo-document it, before I stop, after 2 weeks and then as I start back up again. Anecdotally it looks like 1 ~ 2 weeks to get that fullness back after taking a break (versus the 2~3 weeks to get it when you first start out taking ORig1n). You know the old saying "You don't know what you have until its gone". Well, I want to know :). I am planning to do this toward the end of March.
 
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