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Q & A FOR OLYMPUS LABS ENDUR3/ENDUR3+

josun said:
Lime cucumber bruh just like the goat Gatorade
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You know, I picked one of those up the other day because of this discussion, and I honestly wasn't too fond of it, hah. Remember extreme lime Gatorade, circa '99 or so? Used to mix that with Surge soda as a kid and rage.
 
I was in the market for an EAA/ BCAA product and went with the Pina Colada Endur3+. Any plans releasing more flavors in the future?
 
doogans said:
I was in the market for an EAA/ BCAA product and went with the Pina Colada Endur3+. Any plans releasing more flavors in the future?
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No plans atm but always a possibility
 
doogans said:
I was in the market for an EAA/ BCAA product and went with the Pina Colada Endur3+. Any plans releasing more flavors in the future?
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Ecto Cool3r coming 2017. This is my sole purpose in life now.

At least we have Pina Colada. I was surprised with how much I liked it and how drinkable that flavor is during a workout. Haven't tried dragonfruit yet.
 
Lynks8 said:
Ecto Cool3r coming 2017. This is my sole purpose in life now.

At least we have Pina Colada. I was surprised with how much I liked it and how drinkable that flavor is during a workout. Haven't tried dragonfruit yet.
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I literally have a dozen of these in the fridge as we speak.
 

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Lynks8 said:
Ecto Cool3r coming 2017. This is my sole purpose in life now.

At least we have Pina Colada. I was surprised with how much I liked it and how drinkable that flavor is during a workout. Haven't tried dragonfruit yet.
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I'm hopelessly addicted to Endur3. As THE intra, it makes all the difference in the world during a high volume/ hypertrophy-oriented workout.
 
I just received my tub of Endur3. I was gonna use it pre workout and sip on it through 15 minutes of my workout. I am currently using Tr1umph, so would this hamper the absorption or make it better?
 
Defintely will not hinder the absorption pre/intra is a good plan
 
GNO said:
Defintely will not hinder the absorption pre/intra is a good plan
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That's exactly what I wanted to hear. Also, how do you feel about the Epi absorption as compared to ep1c unleashed? Obviously
Being a lower dose, I was hoping to get some of that recovery between sets.
 
xtyler said:
I'm hopelessly addicted to Endur3. As THE intra, it makes all the difference in the world during a high volume/ hypertrophy-oriented workout.
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I like drinking it all before, with or just before my preworkout. Really makes a hugely noticeable difference in my workout performance, and even more importantly the resultant pump
 
xtyler said:
I'm hopelessly addicted to Endur3. As THE intra, it makes all the difference in the world during a high volume/ hypertrophy-oriented workout.
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Agreed. I'm an Endur3 addict as well. That Pina Colada is delicious.
I like Triumph and CU mixed together 30 min. PWO. Then sip on endure intraworkout. Now I gotta figure how and when to drop Bloodshr3d in the mix. SMH...First World Probs. Thinkin I may try 1 scoop Orange Triumph, 1 scoop lemon CU, and 1 scoop Orange Starcrush. Bene?
 
BamBam0319 said:
I like drinking it all before, with or just before my preworkout. Really makes a hugely noticeable difference in my workout performance, and even more importantly the resultant pump
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Jebrook said:
Agreed. I'm an Endur3 addict as well. That Pina Colada is delicious.
I like Triumph and CU mixed together 30 min. PWO. Then sip on endure intraworkout. Now I gotta figure how and when to drop Bloodshr3d in the mix. SMH...First World Probs. Thinkin I may try 1 scoop Orange Triumph, 1 scoop lemon CU, and 1 scoop Orange Starcrush. Bene?
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I actually drink about one third before starting and the rest intra-wo. Totally in love.
 
xtyler said:
I'm hopelessly addicted to Endur3. As THE intra, it makes all the difference in the world during a high volume/ hypertrophy-oriented workout.
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If you add to choose between Tr1umph and endure for the same high volume hypertrophy what will you chose?
 
Jebrook said:
We have a tendency to celebrate a lot of holidays as well as our new releases;).
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Also special events like big expos (Arnold, Olympia & Stack3d PRO). Isn't there another S-Pro in October? hmmm
 
Tylerclee said:
That's exactly what I wanted to hear. Also, how do you feel about the Epi absorption as compared to ep1c unleashed? Obviously
Being a lower dose, I was hoping to get some of that recovery between sets.
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I definitely notice faster recovery between sets with Endur3 and especially with Endur3+. (-)-Epi's oral bioavailability isn't terrible by itself, so it's still doing something, but obviously it can be increased dramatically with absorption enhancers. 3 thoughts on that...

1. If you're taking Tr1umph, you're getting a solid dose of phosphatidylcholine from the lecithin, which while not the same thing as Phytofuse (where the (-)-Epi is complexed with phosphatidylcholine), should still increase the absorption of the (-)-Epi.

2. A study showed 140% increase in absorption of flavanols, including epicatechin, when ingested alongside carbohydrates, so endur3+ should theoretically help the Epi-(-) absorb more efficiently as well. Invalid Link Removed

3. Another study showed 86-95% increase in epicatechin when ingested with citrus juices, so adding some lemon juice may be beneficial. Just don't go overboard. Too much vitamin C pre-workout may be detrimental to skeletal muscle adaptations to training. Invalid Link Removed

Bottom line: To get the most out of the (-)-Epi in Endur3, use Tr1umph pre-workout, go for Endur3+ if you're not doing keto, and maybe add a splash of lemon juice.
 
Lynks8 said:
I definitely notice faster recovery between sets with Endur3 and especially with Endur3+. (-)-Epi's oral bioavailability isn't terrible by itself, so it's still doing something, but obviously it can be increased dramatically with absorption enhancers. 3 thoughts on that...

1. If you're taking Tr1umph, you're getting a solid dose of phosphatidylcholine from the lecithin, which while not the same thing as Phytofuse (where the (-)-Epi is complexed with phosphatidylcholine), should still increase the absorption of the (-)-Epi.

2. A study showed 140% increase in absorption of flavanols, including epicatechin, when ingested alongside carbohydrates, so endur3+ should theoretically help the Epi-(-) absorb more efficiently as well. Invalid Link Removed

3. Another study showed 86-95% increase in epicatechin when ingested with citrus juices, so adding some lemon juice may be beneficial. Just don't go overboard. Too much vitamin C pre-workout may be detrimental to skeletal muscle adaptations to training. Invalid Link Removed

Bottom line: To get the most out of the (-)-Epi in Endur3, use Tr1umph pre-workout, go for Endur3+ if you're not doing keto, and maybe add a splash of lemon juice.
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Great information bro
 
Besides its well known ergogenic properties and adaptogenic features, it looks like Schisandra ain't a bad anticatabolic either...

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Lynks8 said:
I definitely notice faster recovery between sets with Endur3 and especially with Endur3+. (-)-Epi's oral bioavailability isn't terrible by itself, so it's still doing something, but obviously it can be increased dramatically with absorption enhancers. 3 thoughts on that...

1. If you're taking Tr1umph, you're getting a solid dose of phosphatidylcholine from the lecithin, which while not the same thing as Phytofuse (where the (-)-Epi is complexed with phosphatidylcholine), should still increase the absorption of the (-)-Epi.

2. A study showed 140% increase in absorption of flavanols, including epicatechin, when ingested alongside carbohydrates, so endur3+ should theoretically help the Epi-(-) absorb more efficiently as well. Invalid Link Removed

3. Another study showed 86-95% increase in epicatechin when ingested with citrus juices, so adding some lemon juice may be beneficial. Just don't go overboard. Too much vitamin C pre-workout may be detrimental to skeletal muscle adaptations to training. Invalid Link Removed

Bottom line: To get the most out of the (-)-Epi in Endur3, use Tr1umph pre-workout, go for Endur3+ if you're not doing keto, and maybe add a splash of lemon juice.
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Yea man I stacked those Tr1umph and endur3 yesterday. One of the best workouts I've ever had.
 
I am thinking of using endure + while on a cut. Has anyone had experience on intrawork out carbs and muscle/strength retention while in a caloric deficit?
 
Killcure666 said:
I am thinking of using endure + while on a cut. Has anyone had experience on intrawork out carbs and muscle/strength retention while in a caloric deficit?
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Carb-10 peri-workout can be fine while on a cut, as long as all the rest is managed properly.
 
xtyler said:
Carb-10 peri-workout can be fine while on a cut, as long as all the rest is managed properly.
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I get that overall a caloric deficit is the number one determinant of body fat loss but is there any inherent benefit to carb-10 periwork out for muscle preservation on a spot on diet as compared to a spot on diet with no periwork out carbs?
 
Killcure666 said:
I am thinking of using endure + while on a cut. Has anyone had experience on intrawork out carbs and muscle/strength retention while in a caloric deficit?
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I've used endur3+ while in a deficit and the carb 10 definitely helps with energy levels/strength during training. I find that drinking 1 scoop pre workout and 1 scoop during is the best dosing scheme during a deficit
 
doogans said:
I've used endur3+ while in a deficit and the carb 10 definitely helps with energy levels/strength during training. I find that drinking 1 scoop pre workout and 1 scoop during is the best dosing scheme during a deficit
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Good approach to its use on a cut.
 
Killcure666 said:
I get that overall a caloric deficit is the number one determinant of body fat loss but is there any inherent benefit to carb-10 periwork out for muscle preservation on a spot on diet as compared to a spot on diet with no periwork out carbs?
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I found that I lose fat faster when I add carbs periworkout on days I also do HIIT after weights. I subtract those carbs from elsewhere so net effect is zero.
 
machinehead said:
I found that I lose fat faster when I add carbs periworkout on days I also do HIIT after weights. I subtract those carbs from elsewhere so net effect is zero.
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This is a great approach. Seeing as exercise increases GLUT4, carbs, (especially carb10 with its low insulin response), peri-workout can be hugely beneficial on a low-carb cut with virtually none of the downsides of ingesting carbs at other times. I used to be afraid of carbs on a cut and got great results with CKD dieting. I've found TKD allows me to get the same great results while enhancing strength/endurance during my workouts. Endur3+ is now my go-to product regardless of whether I'm cutting/recomping/bulking.
 
Lynks8 said:
This is a great approach. Seeing as exercise increases GLUT4, carbs, (especially carb10 with its low insulin response), peri-workout can be hugely beneficial on a low-carb cut with virtually none of the downsides of ingesting carbs at other times. I used to be afraid of carbs on a cut and got great results with CKD dieting. I've found TKD allows me to get the same great results while enhancing strength/endurance during my workouts. Endur3+ is now my go-to product regardless of whether I'm cutting/recomping/bulking.
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Sweet! I'm definitely picking up some endure + today. What is CKD and TKD dieting?
 
Killcure666 said:
Sweet! I'm definitely picking up some endure + today. What is CKD and TKD dieting?
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Cyclical Ketogenic and Targeted Ketogenic diets. CKD is basically going ketogenic throughout the week with one big carb re-feed day. TKD is incorporating carbs only around workouts.

TKD + Endur3+ = best balance of fat-loss + strength maintenance/gains (for me).
 
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