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I have 4 bottles of the original, I was considering using it on a recomp/cut? Im unsure if it's a total waste. I'm already big enough, I can't see myself bulking anytime soon!
I’m doing a cut/recomp with it and I don’t believe it’s a waste. I think the waste would be to not use it!
 
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Need to get a review up. I used two bottles and enjoyed it. Wanted to wait a few weeks to notice difference off before noting.

I’ll try to get something longer up but basically improved gym performance and utilization of what I ate.
 
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Did anyone else notice lethargy with this? It actually reminds me of mk-677 in that I feel lethargic several hours per day randomly, increased hunger (though not insane like mk) and incredible sleep...
 

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Did anyone else notice lethargy with this? It actually reminds me of mk-677 in that I feel lethargic several hours per day randomly, increased hunger (though not insane like mk) and incredible sleep...
If you’re using with Glycøshield (since I just saw your post in that thread) you’ll definitely want to increase carb intake from Glycøshield alone, let alone using with something like this... I had to.
 
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Did anyone else notice lethargy with this? It actually reminds me of mk-677 in that I feel lethargic several hours per day randomly, increased hunger (though not insane like mk) and incredible sleep...
Only after overly (not planned LOL) large meals. Sleep is actually better than on MK677 IME.
 
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Only after overly (not planned LOL) large meals. Sleep is actually better than on MK677 IME.
You might be right in that it’s better with this, but better in that it feels refreshing and I can get up easier. MK had me sleep extremely deep but I had the hardest time getting up after.
 
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You might be right in that it’s better with this, but better in that it feels refreshing and I can get up easier. MK had me sleep extremely deep but I had the hardest time getting up after.
True, felt like benzo's.
 
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Another thing I’ve noticed is a bizarre, almost fruity taste in my mouth which basically lasts all day. Anyone else notice this?
 
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Another thing I’ve noticed is a bizarre, almost fruity taste in my mouth which basically lasts all day. Anyone else notice this?
I just took 2 caps before having some pizza for dinner (yes, my diet is spot on). I’m not picking up any fruity vibes in my mouth and have never noticed that before.

I can definitely relate to the lethargic feeling for the most part, though that does seem to get less notable as time goes on. Seems unanimous that sleep is easier/improved, and I am no exception. My poops are rock solid too. Definitely saving money on toilet paper!
 
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I just took 2 caps before having some pizza for dinner (yes, my diet is spot on). I’m not picking up any fruity vibes in my mouth and have never noticed that before.

I can definitely relate to the lethargic feeling for the most part, though that does seem to get less notable as time goes on. Seems unanimous that sleep is easier/improved, and I am no exception. My poops are rock solid too. Definitely saving money on toilet paper!
I’ve also noticed my bowel movements are about half the size they used to be, and I was also getting a distended gut/bloat. Between that and everything else, I had to stop. Great sleep doesn’t make up for the other weird symptoms.
 
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I’ve also noticed my bowel movements are about half the size they used to be, and I was also getting a distended gut/bloat. Between that and everything else, I had to stop. Great sleep doesn’t make up for the other weird symptoms.
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Wow, I spoke too soon on that last one. The pepperoni on that pizza certainly loosened things up! So much for saving on toilet paper!

Otherwise, I believe the theory behind less stool is that digestion is improved to the point that more food/nutrients get utilized by the body. I have never gotten the sense that KS bloats me, but I did with ORIG1N.

Sorry it didn’t work out to be more advantageous for you overall. It’s always fun to try new things though!
 
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Ghrelin is well documented prokinetic and enhances gastric emptying ands stomach acid secretion. My standard meals feel like half their actual content/volume when I'm using KS.
 
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Ghrelin is well documented prokinetic and enhances gastric emptying ands stomach acid secretion. My standard meals feel like half their actual content/volume when I'm using KS.
Agreed, I definitely feel that KS is one of the few supplements that makes me feel less bloated. The pumps and muscle hardness are quite pleasant as well!
 
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:)

Wow, I spoke too soon on that last one. The pepperoni on that pizza certainly loosened things up! So much for saving on toilet paper!

Otherwise, I believe the theory behind less stool is that digestion is improved to the point that more food/nutrients get utilized by the body. I have never gotten the sense that KS bloats me, but I did with ORIG1N.

Sorry it didn’t work out to be more advantageous for you overall. It’s always fun to try new things though!
Yeah, maybe I’ll give it a try again. But honestly, the more I was on it, the more it felt like mk-677.
 
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I just took 2 caps before having some pizza for dinner (yes, my diet is spot on). I’m not picking up any fruity vibes in my mouth and have never noticed that before.

I can definitely relate to the lethargic feeling for the most part, though that does seem to get less notable as time goes on. Seems unanimous that sleep is easier/improved, and I am no exception. My poops are rock solid too. Definitely saving money on toilet paper!
How long did it take for the lethargy to go away?
 

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Guys, for how long can I continue taking KS? I'm on the third bottle right now
 
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How long did it take for the lethargy to go away?
Well, it hasn’t gone away, but it’s quite manageable and kind of sporadic. It’s more of a sense that I don’t feel my stims as strongly as I do with the addition of KS. Honestly, I don’t even take the full 6 caps every day, and I feel that some people could probably benefit from working up to the full dose if they experience the lethargy. It doesn’t seem like this is something everyone has experienced though. thebigt seemed to experience an increase in energy/stamina...particularly when running.

In a way though, I kind of embrace the fact that the extracts are potent enough to induce some lethargy....much like many steroidal substances.
 
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Well, it hasn’t gone away, but it’s quite manageable and kind of sporadic. It’s more of a sense that I don’t feel my stims as strongly as I do with the addition of KS. Honestly, I don’t even take the full 6 caps every day, and I feel that some people could probably benefit from working up to the full dose if they experience the lethargy. It doesn’t seem like this is something everyone has experienced though. thebigt seemed to experience an increase in energy/stamina...particularly when running.

In a way though, I kind of embrace the fact that the extracts are potent enough to induce some lethargy....much like many steroidal substances.
I was considering trying 1 cap 3 times a day. I’d like to get the sleep benefits at least...
 
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Does anyone know which ingredient is responsible for the enhanced sleep?
 
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Does anyone know which ingredient is responsible for the enhanced sleep?
Ghrelin itself seems to have a favourable effect on sleep in (healthy) human beings. It tends to make sleep more efficacious and better quality.
 
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Ghrelin itself seems to have a favourable effect on sleep in (healthy) human beings. It tends to make sleep more efficacious and better quality.
Gotcha.
Did some googling on Ghrelin, and a lot of the effects on pubmed aren’t favorable.

For example:
Ghrelin receptor regulates adipose tissue inflammation in aging.
And...
Ghrelin regulates adiposity in white adipose tissue and UCP1 mRNA expression in brown adipose tissue in mice

What am I missing?
 
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Do you think ill have any side effects once i stop KS?
No. It’s a natural product which typically won’t have side effects from cessation other than the loss of it’s benefits. After about a week you might notice food doesn’t seem to digest as quickly or you feel fuller than normal. You may notice less muscle fullness if you benefited in that aspect. That ‘s all I can think of.
 
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Well, it hasn’t gone away, but it’s quite manageable and kind of sporadic. It’s more of a sense that I don’t feel my stims as strongly as I do with the addition of KS. Honestly, I don’t even take the full 6 caps every day, and I feel that some people could probably benefit from working up to the full dose if they experience the lethargy. It doesn’t seem like this is something everyone has experienced though. thebigt seemed to experience an increase in energy/stamina...particularly when running.

In a way though, I kind of embrace the fact that the extracts are potent enough to induce some lethargy....much like many steroidal substances.
running was fantastic on KS...I highly recommend it!!!

I think the endorphin release was increased when I ran at least 20 minutes[usually it was in the 30-40 minute range]. I also think the endorphin release might have prevented me from experiencing any lethargy. I felt great on KS and look forward to running again!!!
 

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No. It’s a natural product which typically won’t have side effects from cessation other than the loss of it’s benefits. After about a week you might notice food doesn’t seem to digest as quickly or you feel fuller than normal. You may notice less muscle fullness if you benefited in that aspect. That ‘s all I can think of.
Okay, thanks everyone who replied

I think I'll stay a month off KS, and then hop right on :)
 
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Gotcha.
Did some googling on Ghrelin, and a lot of the effects on pubmed aren’t favorable.

For example:
Ghrelin receptor regulates adipose tissue inflammation in aging.
And...
Ghrelin regulates adiposity in white adipose tissue and UCP1 mRNA expression in brown adipose tissue in mice

What am I missing?
That's why I wrote "Healthy" people
Ghrelin/Leptin disregulation-insensivity can trigger all sorts of troubles, while they exert countless beneficial effects in a properly functional body
 
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That's why I wrote "Healthy" people
Ghrelin/Leptin disregulation-insensivity can trigger all sorts of troubles, while they exert countless beneficial effects in a properly functional body
don't forget KoreanMissileToe was shown to be even more effective for us older folks, my friend Danes pointed this out to me when I told him how well I was responding to KS!!!
 
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Recently finished a short cut (4 weeks) and added K1ngslayer in as I’ve moved to a maintenance before a bulk. I haven’t even started to bump carbs up yet, but performance after the first third of the new bottle is kicking in (end of yesterday’s workout felt I could just go forever).

Then last night before bed it seemed the vascularity really started to hit. I already had a decent bit but I had to snap a pic it’s crazy right now. This was 12 hours post workout so not pumped from training or flexing.
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Plan to use again through March.
 
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Could be wrong but I’m pretty sure I read thats it’s being discontinued
Already? When products get discontinued that soon after release, and I happened to run it, I always get concerned that detrimental or unwanted effects were discovered.
 
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Already? When products get discontinued that soon after release, and I happened to run it, I always get concerned that detrimental or unwanted effects were discovered.
I don’t know about that, but I have 2 and a half bottles left I can’t use. Oddly enough, it increased my testosterone and free testosterone but also my hematocrit and dropped my sensitive e2 to 12. Not good for my TRT plan...
 
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I don’t know about that, but I have 2 and a half bottles left I can’t use. Oddly enough, it increased my testosterone and free testosterone but also my hematocrit and dropped my sensitive e2 to 12. Not good for my TRT plan...
If you were in Canada I’d say send them my way! Lol
 
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I don’t know about that, but I have 2 and a half bottles left I can’t use. Oddly enough, it increased my testosterone and free testosterone but also my hematocrit and dropped my sensitive e2 to 12. Not good for my TRT plan...
Wow...that’s pretty darn impressive nonetheless!
 
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Awesome product along with Ar1macare, could be used together or independently.
 

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I started taking Testify along with Kingslayer three weeks ago. Do you guys think that’s a good combination? I ended up in the hospital with an enlarged appendix this past week, but my liver and kidney came back fine. I believe It’s non related.
 

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Anyone still uses K1ng's slayer? Is there any new updated version of it?
 
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