Q & A for FINAFLEX EPI-V

Ok I swear I'm done after this-
Since I do need an on cycle support and want to run erase directly following my pct... Would it be okay to run the first four weeks with an on cycle that does not include any ai but obv still has the protection.. That way, these 4 weeks can be tacked on to after post as stand alone erase. Does epi aromatize (ai needed for entire cycle)?
Sorry for ALL the questions.. I just don't wanna screw myself up again! Your help is much appreciated
 
chedapalooza said:
Ok I swear I'm done after this-
Since I do need an on cycle support and want to run erase directly following my pct... Would it be okay to run the first four weeks with an on cycle that does not include any ai but obv still has the protection.. That way, these 4 weeks can be tacked on to after post as stand alone erase. Does epi aromatize (ai needed for entire cycle)?
Sorry for ALL the questions.. I just don't wanna screw myself up again! Your help is much appreciated
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Yes the EPI-V aromatises, some people wait until 5 days before the end of their cycle to start an AI, I personally like to take a little Intra vs. just post the whole way, that way when post comes along, the levels have never really increased, just remained the same, just seems less stressful on the body that way, but there technically is no scientific proof to my theory, only it is the way I do it, it has always worked for me and everyone else who has followed it, and it can't hurt... so with that being said, it is why I always consider it the, "Better Safe than Sorry" philosophy!
 
ScottyDoc said:
Yes the EPI-V aromatises, some people wait until 5 days before the end of their cycle to start an AI, I personally like to take a little Intra vs. just post the whole way, that way when post comes along, the levels have never really increased, just remained the same, just seems less stressful on the body that way, but there technically is no scientific proof to my theory, only it is the way I do it, it has always worked for me and everyone else who has followed it, and it can't hurt... so with that being said, it is why I always consider it the, "Better Safe than Sorry" philosophy!
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Got it. Thank you.
 
ScottyDoc said:
Yes the EPI-V aromatises, some people wait until 5 days before the end of their cycle to start an AI, I personally like to take a little Intra vs. just post the whole way, that way when post comes along, the levels have never really increased, just remained the same, just seems less stressful on the body that way, but there technically is no scientific proof to my theory, only it is the way I do it, it has always worked for me and everyone else who has followed it, and it can't hurt... so with that being said, it is why I always consider it the, "Better Safe than Sorry" philosophy!
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It makes sense though, pllus the support in the PCT black is a necessary precaution.
 
I'm planning to bridge to a 6 week run of epi-v. Hypothetically if I run it at 6 caps a day for 6 weeks will of get better results than 4 caps? I've talked to some experienced gear users and they've said to go with 6 caps.

I typically cut at 200-300 below maintenance with epi-v should I keep it like that or increase the deficit.

Thanks
 
ion26 said:
I'm planning to bridge to a 6 week run of epi-v. Hypothetically if I run it at 6 caps a day for 6 weeks will of get better results than 4 caps? I've talked to some experienced gear users and they've said to go with 6 caps.

I typically cut at 200-300 below maintenance with epi-v should I keep it like that or increase the deficit.

Thanks
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Well it is not their experience but your experience... how many cycles have you done. I ran 4 ed with very good results but really hadn't done much in the way of PH's in years. This was at the tail end of my second cycle back I believe.

Yah I ran pretty close to maintenance and recomped very well... so not a big deficit for sure, you will burn more calories than normal..
 
My cycles go in the following order

Finaflex 1-andro and epi-v (my first cycle ever and I did it for 6 weeks @ 2 caps of each a day)

Hdrol @75 mg/day for 6 weeks
Epistane 7 weeks@54mg per day (the half life was up on it I believe so it wasn't as effective)

Im glad i won't have to put a drastic cut to the calories.
 
ion26 said:
I'm planning to bridge to a 6 week run of epi-v. Hypothetically if I run it at 6 caps a day for 6 weeks will of get better results than 4 caps? I've talked to some experienced gear users and they've said to go with 6 caps.

I typically cut at 200-300 below maintenance with epi-v should I keep it like that or increase the deficit.

Thanks
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First off, excuse me if I should know this, may have missed it when I scrolled up, but what are you wanting to bridge from? Anyway, that is basically just my curiosity, because for the most part you can bridge over to a 6wk cycle of EPI-V from just about anything over the counter and yes, 4caps/day is our recommended daily dose (2 caps in AM & 2 caps in early afternoon). Also, don't forget to include 1 cap/day of our PCT REVOLUTION Black both during your cycle and for 1 month following the completion of your cycle as both cycle support and PCT needs. Final suggestion, upon completion of your cycle, we recommend taking 6 caps/day of PURE TEST (DAA product) to sky-rocket your natural testosterone levels and help maintain all your hard earned muscle gains and fat-losses. We recommend dosing the PURE TEST @ 6caps/day for 40 days. You follow all that and you will have completed one BAD-A$$, effective yet safe cycle!
 
ScottyDoc said:
First off, excuse me if I should know this, may have missed it when I scrolled up, but what are you wanting to bridge from? Anyway, that is basically just my curiosity, because for the most part you can bridge over to a 6wk cycle of EPI-V from just about anything over the counter and yes, 4caps/day is our recommended daily dose (2 caps in AM & 2 caps in early afternoon). Also, don't forget to include 1 cap/day of our PCT REVOLUTION Black both during your cycle and for 1 month following the completion of your cycle as both cycle support and PCT needs. Final suggestion, upon completion of your cycle, we recommend taking 6 caps/day of PURE TEST (DAA product) to sky-rocket your natural testosterone levels and help maintain all your hard earned muscle gains and fat-losses. We recommend dosing the PURE TEST @ 6caps/day for 40 days. You follow all that and you will have completed one BAD-A$$, effective yet safe cycle!
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I'm bridging from epistane which I was recomping/lean bulking on. It wasn't as effective as it should be because I think it's half life was up.

I have revolutions black, but I'm going to finish the few bottles of erase that I've had in storage first. I also have AI post cycle support and DAA on hand. Also have activate xtreme and testopro in storage just incase...
 
ion26 said:
I'm bridging from epistane which I was recomping/lean bulking on. It wasn't as effective as it should be because I think it's half life was up.

I have revolutions black, but I'm going to finish the few bottles of erase that I've had in storage first. I also have AI post cycle support and DAA on hand. Also have activate xtreme and testopro in storage just incase...
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You mean you think it expiry date was past due...

Yah you should be ok with those supps...
 
DreamWeaver said:
You mean you think it expiry date was past due...

Yah you should be ok with those supps...
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Agreed, short response, but not much more to say about it, LoL
 
Yeah I learned afterwards that the shelf life of epistane is only 6 months. I mean it might have worked a little because my lifts went up and I have achy joints esp. Wrists
 
ion26 said:
Yeah I learned afterwards that the shelf life of epistane is only 6 months. I mean it might have worked a little because my lifts went up and I have achy joints esp. Wrists
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Epi-v is for when you're peaking it makes you hard and dry... if you aren't already close to cut it's not the product to use. I think you need to be 10% or less before you start using it. You will notice some strength increase and aggression maybe but that's not what it's for.
 
ion26 said:
Yeah I learned afterwards that the shelf life of epistane is only 6 months. I mean it might have worked a little because my lifts went up and I have achy joints esp. Wrists
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Wait I just caught the epistane comment... Epi-v is not epistane it's a dht precursor...
 
DreamWeaver said:
Wait I just caught the epistane comment... Epi-v is not epistane it's a dht precursor...
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No I'm saying I'm about to get done recomping on epistane not epi-v.

I bridging from epistane to epi-v
 
DreamWeaver said:
Oh ok, :) I did something similar last year... sure dried me up and made me hard.
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Okay cool that sounds good. Im at 170-172@12% BF(used the bodpod test). I'm going to dose the finaflex EPI-V@6 caps a day. 200-300 under maintenance, so diet and exercise will be dead on. How much BF should I expect to lose?

I might log it here as well if anyone would be interested.
 
ion26 said:
Okay cool that sounds good. Im at 170-172@12% BF(used the bodpod test). I'm going to dose the finaflex EPI-V@6 caps a day. 200-300 under maintenance, so diet and exercise will be dead on. How much BF should I expect to lose?

I might log it here as well if anyone would be interested.
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I still think you would be ok with 4 ed, it converts pretty well. I don't think you will be any less hard and cut.
 
ion26 said:
Okay cool that sounds good. Im at 170-172@12% BF(used the bodpod test). I'm going to dose the finaflex EPI-V@6 caps a day. 200-300 under maintenance, so diet and exercise will be dead on. How much BF should I expect to lose?

I might log it here as well if anyone would be interested.
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Yes, please LOG it, also remember, if you do a good job, we may actually call upon you later to do a sponsored (free product) LOG later! We definitely take very good care of our good LOGGERs, DW can attest to that first hand! Not to mention our products are pretty not bad as well... as in they Kick total A$$!!!
 
I am confused about yalls Epi V Product. I am about to start it next week.

I have taken Epistane once before and I didnt notice much until I dosed it higher. 30MG minimum. I weigh 225 so it took a little more to do the job I guess.

I read Epi V does not contain EPI that is why I am confused.... I want to make sure I dose it high enough to get results. SO what would be the equivalent of 30-50 mg of epistane with Epi-V?
 
mattbaseball said:
I am confused about yalls Epi V Product. I am about to start it next week.

I have taken Epistane once before and I didnt notice much until I dosed it higher. 30MG minimum. I weigh 225 so it took a little more to do the job I guess.

I read Epi V does not contain EPI that is why I am confused.... I want to make sure I dose it high enough to get results. SO what would be the equivalent of 30-50 mg of epistane with Epi-V?
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Like I keep saying Epi-v is not epistane it's a totally different product... 2 to 4 pills ed based on ph experience...
 
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that's a before and after picture in 90 days or so...I also used the epi-v but I created my own diet and exercises since I'm not fortunate to be sponsored. start weight: 319 lbs with a 35% body fat. current weight in picture: 197 lbs. with a 17% body fat
 
Erick725 said:
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that's a before and after picture in 90 days or so...I also used the epi-v but I created my own diet and exercises since I'm not fortunate to be sponsored. start weight: 319 lbs with a 35% body fat. current weight in picture: 197 lbs. with a 17% body fat
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How much epi v did u use?

Good transformation.
 
Erick725 said:
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that's a before and after picture in 90 days or so...I also used the epi-v but I created my own diet and exercises since I'm not fortunate to be sponsored. start weight: 319 lbs with a 35% body fat. current weight in picture: 197 lbs. with a 17% body fat
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Oh my God, I have done some remarkable things with my body over the years but I can't touch this one... 122 lbs in 90 days and 18% body fat...!!

Epi-v is crazy good though, I went down to 6% effortlessly and was eating for recomp really 3200 2400 which is actually over maintenance for me..
 
DreamWeaver said:
Oh my God, I have done some remarkable things with my body over the years but I can't touch this one... 122 lbs in 90 days and 18% body fat...!!

Epi-v is crazy good though, I went down to 6% effortlessly and was eating for recomp really 3200 2400 which is actually over maintenance for me..
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Amen. That's amazing for sure.
 
FUGGING AMAZING...GO DOOD GO!! Looks less than 17% great transformation my friend!!
 
Erick725 said:
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that's a before and after picture in 90 days or so...I also used the epi-v but I created my own diet and exercises since I'm not fortunate to be sponsored. start weight: 319 lbs with a 35% body fat. current weight in picture: 197 lbs. with a 17% body fat
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Erick... That is Amazing Bro, nothing short of Amazing!!! Can you please give people a little more information? Just a generalized day of your diet, sample of your weekly workout routine, how much EPI-V you took, how much and favorite type of cardio, just some details that will help others duplicate your results, we would all appreciate it Bro! Also... contact me again via email and I'll talk with the owners about allowing you to do a sponsored Log here on AnabolicMinds for us, no promises, we usually require more experienced Loggers, but if you are willing to give us all that info and allow us to use your before and after picts, I don't see why they would refuse!
 
Didnt realize I was in the 550 thread asking this...Sorry, Hopefully someone can chime in here!

QUOTE="chedapalooza"]Could I run epi for 30 days in June followed by erase pro for 60 days? I bloat too much fromdaa so I would not want to take pure test.. Any other options?[/QUOTE]

Bump this.. I know pct black has same AI as erase. So
I was thinking 30 days epi+any Recomended cycle support, followed by 60 days erase pro + any natty t booster (30/60 days) besides DAA ..

I was planning on using hghup in June as well, can hghup be stacked with epi?
 
Here's some more details so u can better understand my thinking and planning


May: anabeta elite+isatest (I have your pro xt here as well for the log :) )

June: finaflex epi v+hghup+division 1(don't HAVE TO USE, have30 caps left, would dose 1 a day)+Cycle support?

July: erasepro(pct) +anabeta+(need test booster for pct or is epro enough?

August: erasepro (end aug 20)+anabeta+ endosurge (start aug 21)

The question is revolving around using epi v. I know I need a cycle support, as well as a post cycle. I DO NOT want to use any daa for test boosting bc this is for a summer cut and daa bloats me too much. This means I cannot use fina pct black or pure test as you recommend. (sorry guys) Also, is there an issue with the cortisol control blend in epi and using erase pro for this long following epi? As well as with using the anabeta elite (has cortisol control) prior to epi? I'd really love to use the epi to peak for July and then mAintain my results thru mid august when summer slowly slips away from CT!
 
I actually look @ 550 & EPI-V for my next mild cycle. I admit it is something I want to try, I chose something just a bit more stronger, but I definitely have my eye on epi v in the future. The safety of it not being a methyl is a huge plus as well.
 
AaronJP1 said:
I actually look @ 550 & EPI-V for my next mild cycle. I admit it is something I want to try, I chose something just a bit more stronger, but I definitely have my eye on epi v in the future. The safety of it not being a methyl is a huge plus as well.
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Mild shutdown, recomp, leaning, hardening and drying out there are a lot of good elements here. You can stengthen it by adding in 1-Andro but I will admit that there are probably stonger things out there. The safety trade off is key for myself..
 
Question for a newbie plz...My dad doesnt really let me run PH and I think it would be unwise at my age too, thus I limit myself to knowledge for future stacks and learn as much as I can for future reference in some years that I might actually try a PH.

I saw your stack from weeks 1-12 and your transformation , amazing seriously, Its basically 6 weeks of 1-Andro and jump into 6 weeks of EPI-V running PCT Black throughout the 12 weeks along with CLA and ALC. So which fat burner is good to stack in the EPI-V 6 week cycle?. What Kind of Liver detox or cycle assist is good to take while on this stack, and more importantly, is a SERM needed for PCT , 4-8 weeks of PCT? WHAT would it be? DAA+AI and a SERM? since you already used 12 weeks of PCT Revolution :/...I just wanna wrap my head around all this Doc , if its not too much a bother. ^^
 
Celorza said:
Question for a newbie plz...My dad doesnt really let me run PH and I think it would be unwise at my age too, thus I limit myself to knowledge for future stacks and learn as much as I can for future reference in some years that I might actually try a PH.

I saw your stack from weeks 1-12 and your transformation , amazing seriously, Its basically 6 weeks of 1-Andro and jump into 6 weeks of EPI-V running PCT Black throughout the 12 weeks along with CLA and ALC. So which fat burner is good to stack in the EPI-V 6 week cycle?. What Kind of Liver detox or cycle assist is good to take while on this stack, and more importantly, is a SERM needed for PCT , 4-8 weeks of PCT? WHAT would it be? DAA+AI and a SERM? since you already used 12 weeks of PCT Revolution :/...I just wanna wrap my head around all this Doc , if its not too much a bother. ^^
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No serm should be necessary but you might want to keep some nolva or something of that nature on hand.. 4 week PCT with PCT Black and Pure Test should suffice. PCT black as liver detox you could run 1 cap on cycle. I would not bother with a fat burner Epi-v is a comprehensive product and contains some stim and eats cals...
 
DreamWeaver said:
No serm should be necessary but you might want to keep some nolva or something of that nature on hand.. 4 week PCT with PCT Black and Pure Test should suffice. PCT black as liver detox you could run 1 cap on cycle. I would not bother with a fat burner Epi-v is a comprehensive product and contains some stim and eats cals...
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Thanks , been reading up a lot , I see that also for a leaner approach or a way to just go for lean and strong would be Epi-V and 550 XD together for 8 weeks , followed by 4 weeks of PCT BLACK and Free test! , And this is actually something that I would recomend for a friend haha...he started around the same time as me and he gave up when I leaned out 50+lbs and he messed up his diet and motivation and is looking for a PH express way to leanness xD , I think the stack with ALC+CLA would do wonders on him oO but meh...I'm on a stim break for 4 weeks anyway , thanks for the info DreamWeaver! Much appreciated.
 
Celorza said:
Thanks , been reading up a lot , I see that also for a leaner approach or a way to just go for lean and strong would be Epi-V and 550 XD together for 8 weeks , followed by 4 weeks of PCT BLACK and Free test! , And this is actually something that I would recomend for a friend haha...he started around the same time as me and he gave up when I leaned out 50+lbs and he messed up his diet and motivation and is looking for a PH express way to leanness xD , I think the stack with ALC+CLA would do wonders on him oO but meh...I'm on a stim break for 4 weeks anyway , thanks for the info DreamWeaver! Much appreciated.
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I would always bridge with EPI-V as it is a strong finisher for hardening and drying out. The finishing touches that's how I use this product.
 
DreamWeaver said:
I would always bridge with EPI-V as it is a strong finisher for hardening and drying out. The finishing touches that's how I use this product.
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That is the kind of amazing advice you only get from experienced people who know about this ^^ thank you , much appreciated!
 
Need advice on EPI-V. I'm 31, 190#, 5' 8", about 12-14% bf and looking to do a recomp/leaning cycle. I'm planning on running P-Bold for 8 weeks, and was wondering if epi-v would be good to add for the last 4 weeks. I'm looking for dry lean gains this run, and trying to stay away from methyls. I ran a hdrol cycle last fall, had good gains, but they were wet and lost about half after pct, looking to stay dryer this time.
I'm going to run cycle assist two weeks prior through cycle, along with fish oil, multi, etc. I already have pct rev black and pure test for pct, along with suppress-c( not sure that I'll need it )

Basically wondering if I can run epi-v with the p-bold. All I've seen so far is guys running 1-andro along with the P-bold, which I'm also considering as an option.

Thoughts/suggestions appreciated.
 
Lethal_SS said:
Need advice on EPI-V. I'm 31, 190#, 5' 8", about 12-14% bf and looking to do a recomp/leaning cycle. I'm planning on running P-Bold for 8 weeks, and was wondering if epi-v would be good to add for the last 4 weeks. I'm looking for dry lean gains this run, and trying to stay away from methyls. I ran a hdrol cycle last fall, had good gains, but they were wet and lost about half after pct, looking to stay dryer this time.
I'm going to run cycle assist two weeks prior through cycle, along with fish oil, multi, etc. I already have pct rev black and pure test for pct, along with suppress-c( not sure that I'll need it )

Basically wondering if I can run epi-v with the p-bold. All I've seen so far is guys running 1-andro along with the P-bold, which I'm also considering as an option.

Thoughts/suggestions appreciated.
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I guess p-bold is a boldenone pre-cursor ? I would think epi-v sounds like good fit to finish your cycle off...
 
Yes my brotha!!! P-Bold and then Epi-V would be an excellent bridge! I actually have two bottles of P-Bold still sitting from when I Repd for Taurus...I think the Epi-V will definitely strip away any of the added water P-bold may leave behind...this actually sounds like a mean little cycle...good luck with this. Oh and you are going to LOVE Epi-V it really is amazing!
 
TurningGreen said:
Yes my brotha!!! P-Bold and then Epi-V would be an excellent bridge! I actually have two bottles of P-Bold still sitting from when I Repd for Taurus...I think the Epi-V will definitely strip away any of the added water P-bold may leave behind...this actually sounds like a mean little cycle...good luck with this. Oh and you are going to LOVE Epi-V it really is amazing!
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P-bold should not be that wet at all though...
 
Quick question about stacking Epi-V. Assuming no underlying conditions, would stacking Epi-V with an EC stack be too much, stimulant-wise? Looking to do a cut for 6 weeks prior to my wedding, and I was just wondering if this would be a safe route to go. Thanks!
 
jerarant said:
Quick question about stacking Epi-V. Assuming no underlying conditions, would stacking Epi-V with an EC stack be too much, stimulant-wise? Looking to do a cut for 6 weeks prior to my wedding, and I was just wondering if this would be a safe route to go. Thanks!
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Yah I think it would and EC would not add that much benefit really...
 
I agree DW...too much going on there with EC and Epi-V. Jerarant...from experience I can tell you that you wont need anything else with Epi-V the stuff is amazing...given the right environment in the body (nutrition)...you WILL be ripped!
 
Whats up guys. Just picked up two bottles Of Epi-V for my first ever pro hormone cycle. I was told to take two twice a day for 4 weeks. Ive been running a targeted keto diet in IF fashion for the past 6 weeks and been having good results, 222 down to 208.

Haven't lifted for years but gonna start hitting the weights again. This stuff works with Keto to right? Ive tried a super clean high protein, low fat low carb diet and my body just doesn't respond to it.

Also where is a good place to start a log here? Got one on bb.com but they don't tolerate these supps
 
Twinscroll said:
Whats up guys. Just picked up two bottles Of Epi-V for my first ever pro hormone cycle. I was told to take two twice a day for 4 weeks. Ive been running a targeted keto diet in IF fashion for the past 6 weeks and been having good results, 222 down to 208.

Haven't lifted for years but gonna start hitting the weights again. This stuff works with Keto to right? Ive tried a super clean high protein, low fat low carb diet and my body just doesn't respond to it.

Also where is a good place to start a log here? Got one on bb.com but they don't tolerate these supps
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Now I am not sure the first thing you should be doing when getting back in the gym is your first ph cycle... seems to me you should be establishing your routine then getting your diet in gear and when you start to plateau then consider an alternative. Ph's are for people who have worked hard for a long time and exhausted other avenues of progress...

Don't waste it on a newbie gains situation where you are going to be making tremendous progress without it...
 
DreamWeaver said:
Now I am not sure the first thing you should be doing when getting back in the gym is your first ph cycle... seems to me you should be establishing your routine then getting your diet in gear and when you start to plateau then consider an alternative. Ph's are for people who have worked hard for a long time and exhausted other avenues of progress...

Don't waste it on a newbie gains situation where you are going to be making tremendous progress without it...
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I appreciate the quick response! Well I am a very active individual if it counts for anything. I am just thinking of joining a gym to add a higher resistance for a bit more growth in some lacking areas. Currently I run/hike/blade/longboard paddle, do body weight exercises 6-7 times per week, sometimes with a added 30lb weight vest. Just really looking for a little more upper body size, mostly arms and chest. But the main goal is to not lose any muscle at all during this cutting cycle I'm on right now.

I was told that Epi-V was pretty mild and good for cutting and should help me hit my goal of 185 @ around 12% bodyfat. Turning 30 this year and told myself visible abs was gonna be my birthday present to myself. Had em once when I was 18, and right now I am trying to do everything in my power to not fail.

You are saying not to waste it. What do you mean?
 
DreamWeaver said:
Now I am not sure the first thing you should be doing when getting back in the gym is your first ph cycle... seems to me you should be establishing your routine then getting your diet in gear and when you start to plateau then consider an alternative. Ph's are for people who have worked hard for a long time and exhausted other avenues of progress...

Don't waste it on a newbie gains situation where you are going to be making tremendous progress without it...
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TwinScroll... I completely 100% agree with DW on this one, I mean he could not be more right... "Nail on the Head" as I like to call it! I personally suggest at least a 6-8wk program to break your body back into the routine of lifting, you will probably find that you continue to add size, strength and drop fat all the while up to 12 even 16wks, which at that time when you plateau, would be the best time to start your cycle of EPI-V. Also, by then you might find that you do not have as much fat to lose, as you will already have dropped a good bit more, that you actually want to bulk up because it will then be winter, or you want to try and add a little more muscle at the same time of ripping down further, which would be a good reason to do a stack (EPI-V & 550-XD). This is our advice from our more than 20yrs of personal experience, we of course want you to buy our products and use them and get great results, but we also do not want you to waste time and money, when it will be better used at a later date, we are looking out for you and your best interest, believe me. A very good reason why DW and I work so well together, because we take our customer's considerations first and by doing so we get life-long customers that know they are dealing with a company and their employees that you can trust!

I also suggest that in the beginning you give our incredible CREA-TRONA a go, unlike our PH's I do not see any contraindications for a newbie as DW put it to be taking that.

Good Luck with your quest to better yourself and your body, if you have any further questions regarding FINAFLEX products and/or nutrition and exercise, we are always here and happy to help you, just ask!
 
ScottyDoc said:
TwinScroll... I completely 100% agree with DW on this one, I mean he could not be more right... "Nail on the Head" as I like to call it! I personally suggest at least a 6-8wk program to break your body back into the routine of lifting, you will probably find that you continue to add size, strength and drop fat all the while up to 12 even 16wks, which at that time when you plateau, would be the best time to start your cycle of EPI-V. Also, by then you might find that you do not have as much fat to lose, as you will already have dropped a good bit more, that you actually want to bulk up because it will then be winter, or you want to try and add a little more muscle at the same time of ripping down further, which would be a good reason to do a stack (EPI-V & 550-XD). This is our advice from our more than 20yrs of personal experience, we of course want you to buy our products and use them and get great results, but we also do not want you to waste time and money, when it will be better used at a later date, we are looking out for you and your best interest, believe me. A very good reason why DW and I work so well together, because we take our customer's considerations first and by doing so we get life-long customers that know they are dealing with a company and their employees that you can trust!

I also suggest that in the beginning you give our incredible CREA-TRONA a go, unlike our PH's I do not see any contraindications for a newbie as DW put it to be taking that.

Good Luck with your quest to better yourself and your body, if you have any further questions regarding FINAFLEX products and/or nutrition and exercise, we are always here and happy to help you, just ask!
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Yah we just have your personal development in mind... sups like epi-v work best when you really have everything nailed down... they enhance what you already know how to do....
 
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