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Q & A for FINAFLEX 1-ANDRO

Cerneka said:
I am currently on day 56 of my 60 day cycle and would like advice on how to maintain my gains. Just some background information, I began my 1- ANDRO cycle at 2 capsules ed and on day 31, I upped the dosage to 4 capsules ed with 1 Revolution PCT Black each night. In addition, I have been taking Optimum Nutrition's 100% Whey Protein pre and post workout and Optimum Nutrition's Casein Protein each night. I am 20 years old and have seen significant gains in mass, definition, and strength. Over the course of my cycle, I have gone from 153 to 175 and am now in the best shape of my life. I could not be happier with the product. I would just like advice on how to keep as much as my gains as possible. I currently have 2 and a half bottles of Revolution PCT Black on hand as well as 1 bottle of Pure Test. Are there any other products I should purchase? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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6 Pure Test, ed 2 PCT black in the evening, some good creatine would be good like Crea-Trona. Now you want to design your workouts to be as heavy duty as you can without hurting yourself of course. 5 sets of 5 on compound lifts will be good...
 
doc,
I've been on 1-andro now for 9 days, i haven't really noticed or felt different. I've been lifting very heavy, to failure on my last two sets. my diet is dialed in and i'm getting plenty of protein, about 1.25 to 1.5 per lb, i've also been getting plenty of creatine and bcaa's. Does it take a while to start feeling different and if so what should i expect and how long does it usually take. I'm taking 4 pills a day, 2 morning 2 night with 1 pct black. I did gain 3 lbs but i'm doing 40 mins of cardio a day which usually i would lose weight when starting a new program like this, so maybe thats the difference. just kinda wanted to hear how this stuff made people feel or did you just see results in the mirror. zero mood swings, no acne, no lowered libido (although i'm in afghan so that wouldn't be bad right now...lol).

thanks
josh
 
dawsonjd said:
doc,
I've been on 1-andro now for 9 days, i haven't really noticed or felt different. I've been lifting very heavy, to failure on my last two sets. my diet is dialed in and i'm getting plenty of protein, about 1.25 to 1.5 per lb, i've also been getting plenty of creatine and bcaa's. Does it take a while to start feeling different and if so what should i expect and how long does it usually take. I'm taking 4 pills a day, 2 morning 2 night with 1 pct black. I did gain 3 lbs but i'm doing 40 mins of cardio a day which usually i would lose weight when starting a new program like this, so maybe thats the difference. just kinda wanted to hear how this stuff made people feel or did you just see results in the mirror. zero mood swings, no acne, no lowered libido (although i'm in afghan so that wouldn't be bad right now...lol).

thanks
josh
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You should be noticing some inexplicable strength gain very soon... 1-andro is for size and strength....
 
dawsonjd said:
doc,
I've been on 1-andro now for 9 days, i haven't really noticed or felt different. I've been lifting very heavy, to failure on my last two sets. my diet is dialed in and i'm getting plenty of protein, about 1.25 to 1.5 per lb, i've also been getting plenty of creatine and bcaa's. Does it take a while to start feeling different and if so what should i expect and how long does it usually take. I'm taking 4 pills a day, 2 morning 2 night with 1 pct black. I did gain 3 lbs but i'm doing 40 mins of cardio a day which usually i would lose weight when starting a new program like this, so maybe thats the difference. just kinda wanted to hear how this stuff made people feel or did you just see results in the mirror. zero mood swings, no acne, no lowered libido (although i'm in afghan so that wouldn't be bad right now...lol).

thanks
josh
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I agree with DW, usually you start to notice the difference after about 14 days and that difference grows exponentially once it starts and as you progress, just keep doing what you are doing, I promise the changes are coming and you are gonna love them!!!
 
sprintstar01 said:
you guys reccomend going longer than 4 weeks? maybe 6-8?
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6 weeks has always been my magic number personally, nothing wrong with 8wks, but I definitely do not recommend any longer than that!
 
skinny guy

Hey Doc,
i have read alot of posts on this thread and have recently ordered some 1-andro and the PCT from finaflex, i am 18 and a senior in high school im currently 6'2" and at only 145 pounds it is hard for me to put on weight because of my metabolism and im very active as basketball is my main sport. i was wondering if there was a certain way i should do my cycle considering my weight and metabolism and if i will get different results...
thanks and im looking forward to your response.
 
hunter10283 said:
Hey Doc,
i have read alot of posts on this thread and have recently ordered some 1-andro and the PCT from finaflex, i am 18 and a senior in high school im currently 6'2" and at only 145 pounds it is hard for me to put on weight because of my metabolism and im very active as basketball is my main sport. i was wondering if there was a certain way i should do my cycle considering my weight and metabolism and if i will get different results...
thanks and im looking forward to your response.
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I for one and I know Doc feels the same way would never recoomend an 18 year old use any ph... risks aside I don't think the benefits would be there seeing that your hormonal levels are already optimal... there is no such thing as can't gain. Yes I know you have a hard time but a lot of it is due to diet, learn how to eat right and exercise right. You may gain slow but you will gain if you are dilligent.
 
DreamWeaver said:
I for one and I know Doc feels the same way would never recoomend an 18 year old use any ph... risks aside I don't think the benefits would be there seeing that your hormonal levels are already optimal... there is no such thing as can't gain. Yes I know you have a hard time but a lot of it is due to diet, learn how to eat right and exercise right. You may gain slow but you will gain if you are dilligent.
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thanks for the response and thank you for the info..i have some older friends that went through a cycle of this stuff when they were my age and they said they went through no problems (which they think anyway)...so why do you think the benifits wouldnt be there as they said they gained around 10 lbs in 6 weeks at 3 pills a day with the PCT 1 a day during and 2 after their cycle for 40 days. Again im not trying to be stubborn or anything as i know you have much more expirence and knowledge than i do.
 
hunter10283 said:
thanks for the response and thank you for the info..i have some older friends that went through a cycle of this stuff when they were my age and they said they went through no problems (which they think anyway)...so why do you think the benifits wouldnt be there as they said they gained around 10 lbs in 6 weeks at 3 pills a day with the PCT 1 a day during and 2 after their cycle for 40 days. Again im not trying to be stubborn or anything as i know you have much more expirence and knowledge than i do.
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There is a chance there won't be problems the stuff is quite mild and most won't experience any problems. I think your friends being young should be able to gain a good bit of weight without hormonal help. At a young age knowledge should be your quest not shortcuts. Hormonal products are for veteran lifters who have exhausted all avenues and need a boost. If you start relying on ph's at a young age knowledge tends to suffer. The necessity to learn should be foremost.
 
DreamWeaver said:
There is a chance there won't be problems the stuff is quite mild and most won't experience any problems. I think your friends being young should be able to gain a good bit of weight without hormonal help. At a young age knowledge should be your quest not shortcuts. Hormonal products are for veteran lifters who have exhausted all avenues and need a boost. If you start relying on ph's at a young age knowledge tends to suffer. The necessity to learn should be foremost.
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again thank you and now im gonna reconsider this,i just heard of my friends results of course i workout and everything but just actually wanted a little boost so thank you for the information and i will definetly reconsider.
 
hunter10283 said:
again thank you and now im gonna reconsider this,i just heard of my friends results of course i workout and everything but just actually wanted a little boost so thank you for the information and i will definetly reconsider.
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Smart guy, stick around and do some research and you will learn a lot and that is what will really make you change....
 
Hey, Just finished my 60 day cycle yesterday. I have 2 and a half bottles of Revolution PCT Black, 1 Bottle of Pure Test, and 2 bottles of Creatrona. I understand I'm supposed to take 2 Revolution PCT Black capsules and 6 Pure Test capsules each night before I go to bed. How should I dose the Creatrona?
 
Cerneka said:
Hey, Just finished my 60 day cycle yesterday. I have 2 and a half bottles of Revolution PCT Black, 1 Bottle of Pure Test, and 2 bottles of Creatrona. I understand I'm supposed to take 2 Revolution PCT Black capsules and 6 Pure Test capsules each night before I go to bed. How should I dose the Creatrona?
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I would spread the Pure Test out in 3 doses and the Crea-Trona 2 am and 2 pm...
 
I am on day 14 of 1 andro. I've done 3 caps ed for 2 weeks now bumping up to 4 caps ed. I am very impressed with this product. My bench has increased 20lbs and squat 15lbs already. I have gained 7lbs and managed to keep my same leaness as before I started. I will continue running for 4 more weeks. Very excited to see what else is in store!
 
chestbrah said:
I am on day 14 of 1 andro. I've done 3 caps ed for 2 weeks now bumping up to 4 caps ed. I am very impressed with this product. My bench has increased 20lbs and squat 15lbs already. I have gained 7lbs and managed to keep my same leaness as before I started. I will continue running for 4 more weeks. Very excited to see what else is in store!
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Just more of the same :)
 
chestbrah said:
I am on day 14 of 1 andro. I've done 3 caps ed for 2 weeks now bumping up to 4 caps ed. I am very impressed with this product. My bench has increased 20lbs and squat 15lbs already. I have gained 7lbs and managed to keep my same leaness as before I started. I will continue running for 4 more weeks. Very excited to see what else is in store!
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I agree with DW, just don't get over-confident and slack up on any of your areas, keep that diet high in protein and don't over-do the carbs and fat. Whatever you have been doing in the gym, go harder ( do not take that as me saying go longer, way too many people work out too damn Long) I think the perfect workout length is 1hr (1.5hrs max) and if you keep your workouts short, but intense and 1hr or under, then yes it is ok to do a nice slow fat-burn cardio on a treadmill or stair stepper, but make sure you are going slow enough that you can have a full conversation with the person next to you without feeling like you are gonna pass out and yet, fast enough that you are drenched in sweat and your heart is elevated enough that you are actually burning calories, I call it my Happy Place, so find your Happy Place!
 
ScottyDoc said:
I agree with DW, just don't get over-confident and slack up on any of your areas, keep that diet high in protein and don't over-do the carbs and fat. Whatever you have been doing in the gym, go harder ( do not take that as me saying go longer, way too many people work out too damn Long) I think the perfect workout length is 1hr (1.5hrs max) and if you keep your workouts short, but intense and 1hr or under, then yes it is ok to do a nice slow fat-burn cardio on a treadmill or stair stepper, but make sure you are going slow enough that you can have a full conversation with the person next to you without feeling like you are gonna pass out and yet, fast enough that you are drenched in sweat and your heart is elevated enough that you are actually burning calories, I call it my Happy Place, so find your Happy Place!
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Thanks guys. Seeing gains so quickly makes me wanna keep acquiring those gains so no lacking off here. Added alot more meat to my diet cut out some of the bs foods I eating. Currently eating about 15% over my maintaince on a 40/40/20 macro diet. Slow steady bulking. Ready to welcome more gains!
 
wow what a difference a week can make, first of all i screwed myself out of 4 days of results cause we had emergencies to deal with here in afghan and i couldn't get to the gym, nevertheless, 2 weeks of results are in. I'm running 2 pills 2 times a day, 1 pct black at night, along with all the good proteins creatine bcaa's and fat burners and a high protein diet with no sugar or dairy. I'm also doing 20 mins or cardio 2 times a day. in one week i lost 7 lbs, i know most of its water weight but usually when i do this i'm tired and sluggish, i can't freaking wait to get into the gym everyday. Keep in mind i have a manual labor job thats outside in 110 degree weather all day and i still find the energy and want to go to the gym twice a day. 6 days ago i leg pressed 850x5 sets for 12-15 reps. today i did 3 sets 50 reps with 450lbs. that may not seem like a lot of weight for some but i haven't lifted weights in over a year and i'm throwing that much weight up in 2 weeks. i'm doing a bb.com 12 week program and i'm killing it. every single set of dumbbells i do it feels like i need more and more weight. its weird 5 days ago i didn't feel anything, couple days ago something kicked in and put me in overdrive. I love this stuff, wish i could take it forever. on a bad note nutraplanet is taking forever to get my second bottle in, i just took my last dose of it. if its not here in the morning i don't know what i'm going to do. i guess take some epi-v for a day or two until it gets here. i can't wait to see what i look like after a month of this. thanks guys you were right when this stuff gets in your system you can notice it for sure.
 
dawsonjd said:
wow what a difference a week can make, first of all i screwed myself out of 4 days of results cause we had emergencies to deal with here in afghan and i couldn't get to the gym, nevertheless, 2 weeks of results are in. I'm running 2 pills 2 times a day, 1 pct black at night, along with all the good proteins creatine bcaa's and fat burners and a high protein diet with no sugar or dairy. I'm also doing 20 mins or cardio 2 times a day. in one week i lost 7 lbs, i know most of its water weight but usually when i do this i'm tired and sluggish, i can't freaking wait to get into the gym everyday. Keep in mind i have a manual labor job thats outside in 110 degree weather all day and i still find the energy and want to go to the gym twice a day. 6 days ago i leg pressed 850x5 sets for 12-15 reps. today i did 3 sets 50 reps with 450lbs. that may not seem like a lot of weight for some but i haven't lifted weights in over a year and i'm throwing that much weight up in 2 weeks. i'm doing a bb.com 12 week program and i'm killing it. every single set of dumbbells i do it feels like i need more and more weight. its weird 5 days ago i didn't feel anything, couple days ago something kicked in and put me in overdrive. I love this stuff, wish i could take it forever. on a bad note nutraplanet is taking forever to get my second bottle in, i just took my last dose of it. if its not here in the morning i don't know what i'm going to do. i guess take some epi-v for a day or two until it gets here. i can't wait to see what i look like after a month of this. thanks guys you were right when this stuff gets in your system you can notice it for sure.
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No lethargy being experienced here lol... Yah that is a great reaction to the product, stength and size are normal reactions but it's really good to get the energy boost too....
 
dawsonjd said:
wow what a difference a week can make, first of all i screwed myself out of 4 days of results cause we had emergencies to deal with here in afghan and i couldn't get to the gym, nevertheless, 2 weeks of results are in. I'm running 2 pills 2 times a day, 1 pct black at night, along with all the good proteins creatine bcaa's and fat burners and a high protein diet with no sugar or dairy. I'm also doing 20 mins or cardio 2 times a day. in one week i lost 7 lbs, i know most of its water weight but usually when i do this i'm tired and sluggish, i can't freaking wait to get into the gym everyday. Keep in mind i have a manual labor job thats outside in 110 degree weather all day and i still find the energy and want to go to the gym twice a day. 6 days ago i leg pressed 850x5 sets for 12-15 reps. today i did 3 sets 50 reps with 450lbs. that may not seem like a lot of weight for some but i haven't lifted weights in over a year and i'm throwing that much weight up in 2 weeks. i'm doing a bb.com 12 week program and i'm killing it. every single set of dumbbells i do it feels like i need more and more weight. its weird 5 days ago i didn't feel anything, couple days ago something kicked in and put me in overdrive. I love this stuff, wish i could take it forever. on a bad note nutraplanet is taking forever to get my second bottle in, i just took my last dose of it. if its not here in the morning i don't know what i'm going to do. i guess take some epi-v for a day or two until it gets here. i can't wait to see what i look like after a month of this. thanks guys you were right when this stuff gets in your system you can notice it for sure.
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Congratulations bro, I knew it was just a matter of getting in your system before you really started to Love the results you get, and hey, this is only the beginning, it really gets so much better once it is in your system (blood plasma levels are saturated) is when the magic starts to happen as you are noticing! So good job, way to work your A$$ off Bro!
 
I am taking another 4 pill a day cycle and started today time to hit the diet hard and the gym hard again I am too excited. I weigh about 165 now so i lost 7 lbs of the 12 i gained and am looking forward to seeing what will happen this time. Ill keep you updated.
 
VicksTopDog said:
I am taking another 4 pill a day cycle and started today time to hit the diet hard and the gym hard again I am too excited. I weigh about 165 now so i lost 7 lbs of the 12 i gained and am looking forward to seeing what will happen this time. Ill keep you updated.
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Cool Brutha, keep us informed and keep the diet strict and the weight gain will be lean, drink lots of water and pound that iron, make those weights cry!
 
So here it is.

Monday June 25th- 156.5 LBS
Sunday July 1st - ANDRO FINAFLEX
Monday July 2nd - 157.5 LBS
Monday July 9th - 163.0 LBS
Sunday July 15th- BROKE FINGER
Monday July 16th- 164
Monday July 23rd- 167
Monday July 30th- 165.5

Kinda pissed I went down in weight - aiming for 180!

Finished with the andro, now taking Black PCT and my Pure Test just came in the mail. Taking PCT 2 at night - when do I take pure test and how much of it? Does it matter if I finish the whole bottle or can I just do 2 or 3 weeks of it?
 
brisk said:
So here it is.

Monday June 25th- 156.5 LBS
Sunday July 1st - ANDRO FINAFLEX
Monday July 2nd - 157.5 LBS
Monday July 9th - 163.0 LBS
Sunday July 15th- BROKE FINGER
Monday July 16th- 164
Monday July 23rd- 167
Monday July 30th- 165.5

Kinda pissed I went down in weight - aiming for 180!

Finished with the andro, now taking Black PCT and my Pure Test just came in the mail. Taking PCT 2 at night - when do I take pure test and how much of it? Does it matter if I finish the whole bottle or can I just do 2 or 3 weeks of it?
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should have already started, 6ed three doses of 2...
 
At the end of week 3 of Andro 1 stacked with Dermacrine. still seeing steady gains. Im having some hard emotional problems though involving a girl at the time (break up) and i feel like this stuff is amplifying my emotions. ive decided to cut the cycle a week and a half short because of this and start my PCT. i have purchased Finaflex PCT with 2 bottles of pure test taking 6 pure test ed and 2ed Finaflex pct for 30 days. Have yall heard of this ever happening on this stuff? do yall think it will amplify more on PCT or not?
 
chestbrah said:
At the end of week 3 of Andro 1 stacked with Dermacrine. still seeing steady gains. Im having some hard emotional problems though involving a girl at the time (break up) and i feel like this stuff is amplifying my emotions. ive decided to cut the cycle a week and a half short because of this and start my PCT. i have purchased Finaflex PCT with 2 bottles of pure test taking 6 pure test ed and 2ed Finaflex pct for 30 days. Have yall heard of this ever happening on this stuff? do yall think it will amplify more on PCT or not?
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Yah and your PCT should even you out... possibility of some extra estro conversion. You don't have to stop your cycle necessarly, it might just take some pct black (1 before bed)...
 
DreamWeaver said:
Yah and your PCT should even you out... possibility of some extra estro conversion. You don't have to stop your cycle necessarly, it might just take some pct black (1 before bed)...
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DW nailed that on the head... and if 1 cap/night doesn't work you might wanna go to 2caps/night or even start with 2caps/night for like a week to kill it in your system, then lower down to 1cap/night for maintenance!
 
I took two days of the pills and just got sick and stopped taking them. My throat is all itchy and sinuses and im coughing non stop so I decided to wait till i am better. Doctor just said it was a virus and should pass off with over counter meds so we will see. It sucks lol
 
VicksTopDog said:
I took two days of the pills and just got sick and stopped taking them. My throat is all itchy and sinuses and im coughing non stop so I decided to wait till i am better. Doctor just said it was a virus and should pass off with over counter meds so we will see. It sucks lol
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Yah that' does, I am lucky I have a very strong immune system and rarely get sick, had to work through a bout of bronchitis though... that sucked but it was gone in 2 weeks and really only 3 or 4 really bad days...
 
VicksTopDog said:
I took two days of the pills and just got sick and stopped taking them. My throat is all itchy and sinuses and im coughing non stop so I decided to wait till i am better. Doctor just said it was a virus and should pass off with over counter meds so we will see. It sucks lol
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Sorry to hear that Bro, that does suck, bigtime!
 
Been taking DAA and experiencing heartburn or acid reflex in my throat. Diet has been the same, im almost positive its the DAA.

edit: When I ate it with food I seemed not to have the problem.
 
brisk said:
Been taking DAA and experiencing heartburn or acid reflex in my throat. Diet has been the same, im almost positive its the DAA.

edit: When I ate it with food I seemed not to have the problem.
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My advice would be to eat it with food :) .. lol thanks for the info...
 
DreamWeaver said:
My advice would be to eat it with food :) .. lol thanks for the info...
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As a general rule of thumb, unless it indicates to take on an empty stomach, which 95% of supps do not, then I always try to take all my oral supps with a meal, just better for the whole digestion and absorption process! IMO
 
ScottyDoc said:
As a general rule of thumb, unless it indicates to take on an empty stomach, which 95% of supps do not, then I always try to take all my oral supps with a meal, just better for the whole digestion and absorption process! IMO
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if I can't with food I will use fish oil...
 
Hey guys i just bought myself a bottle of L-Arginine, L-Ornithine dietary supplement. How often should i take these pills. And at what strategic times for best results?
 
Camimoore said:
Hey guys i just bought myself a bottle of L-Arginine, L-Ornithine dietary supplement. How often should i take these pills. And at what strategic times for best results?
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Before bed but I dont' remember the dosing... I just take G8...
 
I have 2 bottles of FinaFlex 1-Andro and 1 bottle of EPI-V, what would be the best way to dose for 45 days

weeks 1 and 2 @ 2 andro morning and 2 at night
weeks 3,4,5,6 @ 1 andro and 1 epi-v morning and again at night?
 
parkerwilson said:
I have 2 bottles of FinaFlex 1-Andro ad 1 bottle of EPI-V, what would be the best way to dose for 45 days

weeks 1 and 2 = 2 andro morning and 2 at night
weeks 3,4,5,6 + 1 andro and 1 epi-v morning and again at night?
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Personally, I would buy another bottle of EPI-V and just take it them both at 3caps/day for 40 days, my personal opinion, would show incredible size, strength, & fat-loss... = Win,win,win!
 
parkerwilson said:
So I shouldn't have any problems taking 3 of each a day? I am around 11-12% body fat, do I need that much EPI-V?
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Need ? maybe not but it would definitely enhance your experience..

Oh and at 11-12% you are in prime postion for this...:)
 
parkerwilson said:
Thanks, I will do what Scotty suggested then.
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11-12% BF is good, but to be able to say you are 5-6% BF is wayyyyy better, right? EPI-V with a proper diet and exercise routine can and will take you down to that competition level or RIP!!! EPI-V is what separates a guy who just looks good at the pool from the guy who looks like he should be on the cover of a magazine! *(again, I can't stress enough how important a proper diet and exercise plan is to achieve these results)*
 
You emphasized the importance of a proper diet in your last post. Can you elaborate on this? What should my diet include?
 
ScottyDoc said:
11-12% BF is good, but to be able to say you are 5-6% BF is wayyyyy better, right? EPI-V with a proper diet and exercise routine can and will take you down to that competition level or RIP!!! EPI-V is what separates a guy who just looks good at the pool from the guy who looks like he should be on the cover of a magazine! *(again, I can't stress enough how important a proper diet and exercise plan is to achieve these results)*
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Ideally, if I could get up to 180 with 8% BF with this cycle and keep it, I will be completely happy.
 
Cerneka said:
You emphasized the importance of a proper diet in your last post. Can you elaborate on this? What should my diet include?
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Along the same lines, i am consuming around 3000 calories a day right now, when I start this cycle this week, do you guys think 4000 calories a day will be sufficient, to much/not enough?

1 Revolution Black at night all the protection I need?
 
Hey guys, I have been doing my research on PH's these past few months and have decided to go with Finaflex 1-Andro. I picked Finaflex due to its reputable name and positive reviews on what appears to me as a solid product. I have been lifting for five years now. 6 feet tall weighing in at 215. I want to gain some lean mass and from my research this product appears to assist me with achieving that. My only worry is getting some nasty side effects. I was wondering if I can run Finaflex's PCT during the cycle and then continue running another bottle of the PCT with pure test after my cycle of 1-Andro. I am planning to take milk thistle with my armory of daily supps to protect my liver. Unfortunately I cannot obtain a SERM.
Thanks guys, appreciate it.
 
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