drewzx3
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How expensive? My tests are done through lab corp and cost 55 a test.
How expensive? My tests are done through lab corp and cost 55 a test.
Q & A for FINAFLEX 1-ANDRO
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drewzx3
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How expensive? My tests are done through labcorp and cost 55 a test.
drewzx3
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How expensive? My tests are done through labcorp and cost me 55 a test.
drewzx3
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How expensive? Mine are 55 a month through lab corp.
ScottyDoc
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As I answered in a PM to you, I do not know the exact cost, your best and safest bet is to call Lab Corp. and ask them exactly what they are testing for in your drug test, they have to tell you, you have to know what you are being tested for and Bingo, you will then know for sure!!!
JConWRX
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Thanks DW. Few more questions if you don't mind, I have been training for about 10 years now fairly regularly, I did run one 12 wk AAS cycle in my early 20's and unfortunately my mentor failed to clue me in on correct PCT, told me I was young and should recover fine on a mild cycle (should have researched myself but I was ambitious and naive). I believe I recovered well enough since with only mild/slight gyno. Anyways, I have been training really hard the last 2-1/2 years and cannot seem to build any mass. I've been natural since and really tuned into my diet and training routine. I am @ 40/30/30 right now on a 4 day split, around 2600-2700 cals/day (These macro's have ggiven me my best gains). I do consider myself "soft" (no muscle density/mass or definition, just average). My goal is to break the 170 mark in the 10% body fat range by early June, I'm 163 @ about 15% now. OK now my questions...(1) Would I be better off running the 1-andro for 6 weeks or will 4 weeks do? (2) Would it be recommended to add anything in like Cycle Assist during and post? (3) How about bridging into EPI-V for 4-6 weeks or is that too much since it's my first PH cycle in about 8 years? (4) Whether or not I choose just the 1 andro cycle for 4-6 weeks or the bridged cycle, would I want to up my PCT caps to 2/day as part of the PCT? Thanks a million for any help I can get!
DreamWeaver
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I would have one ready just in case but I myself would not plan on using one. That's one of the advantages of using milder products. You never know how someone will react to some thing though. For most PCT Black is enough.
ScottyDoc
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Steve... I agree with DW on this one, I have never heard of anyone needing anything more powerful than our very own PCT REVOLUTION Black for any of our PH's, everyone is different and you just never know, and with that being said and my tendency to air on the side of caution... I would rather have a SERM on hand and never need it, then not have it on hand and need it!
DreamWeaver
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Can't argue with that logic...
DreamWeaver
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DreamWeaver
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BBB
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I take Diesel Test Pro daily. It has a lot of support ingredients in it as well as DHEA. I have PCT Black but was saving it for PCT. I also take Myodrol daily. It has Serenoa Repens Extract as well as Haematococcus Pluvialis. I also take a whole host of staples that have little to do with BB.
DreamWeaver
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DreamWeaver
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Yah I have heard that arguement but in real life I have always used SP, damn at my age I better and always got full benefit from the products I used even with EPI-V... every comprehensive support supp product contains SP so there would be more problems fron it that just some people speculating. I take SP and my problems with urination stop and my gains keep coming.
ScottyDoc
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OK... when I dosed the 1-ANDRO really high, 6 caps/day for 6 wks, about 3 wks/half way through, I notices not a burning sensation, but it felt just like when I pee shortly after orgasming, kind of a weird, spasm like constricted feeling, even a tingle, but never an EXTREME burning sensation as you describe!
DreamWeaver
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Yah that sounds like prostrate issues, it does go away but I am not comfortable with it so SP it is...
kstr0h
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Hey doc, iv been reading through this thread and i think i know what I'm doing. i just want to double check on a few things and see what you think.
within a few weeks I'm going to start a cycle of the finaflex 1-andros. i want to get the most out of the cycle so would be taking 4 caps a day (2 in the morning and 2 at night) for 6 weeks be optimal?
on top of that I'm going to take 1 cap a day (at night) of the revolution pct and then continue the pct for the 30 days after the 1-andros cycle.
will i need any other sort of organ protection, estrogen blocker or any other similar supplement other then the revolution pct?
This might be a stupid question but while on the cycle i would like to keep takeing other vitamins such as fish oil, a multivitamin (mens pro edge 1 a day), an eye vitamin and flex (the joint supplement). do you think this will take away or interfere with any effects of the finaflex cycle?
Also, do you think the 1-andros is the best for me? I'm not trying to cut or anything along those lines, I'm just trying to get bigger and stronger. While cycling I'm going to be on a high calorie, high protein diet.[/B]
within a few weeks I'm going to start a cycle of the finaflex 1-andros. i want to get the most out of the cycle so would be taking 4 caps a day (2 in the morning and 2 at night) for 6 weeks be optimal?
on top of that I'm going to take 1 cap a day (at night) of the revolution pct and then continue the pct for the 30 days after the 1-andros cycle.
will i need any other sort of organ protection, estrogen blocker or any other similar supplement other then the revolution pct?
This might be a stupid question but while on the cycle i would like to keep takeing other vitamins such as fish oil, a multivitamin (mens pro edge 1 a day), an eye vitamin and flex (the joint supplement). do you think this will take away or interfere with any effects of the finaflex cycle?
Also, do you think the 1-andros is the best for me? I'm not trying to cut or anything along those lines, I'm just trying to get bigger and stronger. While cycling I'm going to be on a high calorie, high protein diet.[/B]
DreamWeaver
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While we're waiting for Al I will kick in and say that your dosing sounds good and 6 weeks is fine if this is not your first cycle, you may want to shorten it a bit if it is. I think 1-Andro is a good fit for what you're trying to achieve. Fish oil is very beneficial you should take it with your doses. The other supps sound fine as well...
kstr0h
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thanks for the quick reply!
this actually is my first time cycling and using a product like this. so you're saying that i should cycle it for less then 6 weeks? would a month (4 weeks) be better? and if so would my dosing have to change from the 4 caps a day to less?
DreamWeaver
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You could probably get away with running less like 3 ed and 4 weeks should do the trick. Just assess how you react to the product, could be 6 weeks would be ok too... you're over 21 I assume ?
kstr0h
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3 a day and 4 weeks sounds good, i can see how that goes and like you said see how my body reacts to it. yup im 22, iv been working out for a while now but never tried anything like this before. iv only had the basics like pre workouts and protein shakes.
ScottyDoc
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I swear my computer or this website must have messed up, I could have sworn I answered this post yesterday... in a nutshell I said all that is fine, there are not contraindications with any of your above listed supps and I agree with DW on the fish oils Fo-Show!
kstr0h
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It's cool, it happens haha. I have one more question I forgot to ask, would taking a pre workout have any negative effects on the cycle? Right now I'm taking hemo-rage. I might stop taking it but just In case I try something similar, should it be a problem?
Thanks!
DreamWeaver
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You should be fine ... no conflicts with pre-workouts...
kstr0h
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ok great, thank you! sorry for all the dumb questions, i just wanted to make sure that everything im going to do is right and non conflicting with the cycle.
ScottyDoc
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Ask away Bro, we are full of dumb answers, LoL!!! Just kidding, there is no dumb questions, we all had to learn somehow and we are hear to educate, so ask away Brotha!
kstr0h
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haha alright so i got a few more then. Would you suggest the finaflex andro as a good starting point for ph's? Im not new to working out but iam new to prohormones. I sorta already asked this question but im really looking for strength and size gains. so i want to take the best possible product to get those gains but at the same time not overdue it for my first cycle since i have no idea how my body will react.
edit: what kind of gains will i typically see with this product?
ScottyDoc
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Go with the 550-XD Black for your first small 30 day cycle, take PCT, then 30 days off and do a 30 day cycle of EPI-V... small, enough to be effective and yet safe, and you can gage how your body will react in the future from those two cycles, hell by then you will be telling us how it is done, LoL!
kstr0h
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sounds good! just so im clear on things whats the difference between the 3: 550-xd black, 1-andros and epi-v?
i already know the 1-andros is a ph but how about the others?
once again sorry for the dumb questions, i took a brief look through the thread and if you already answered it i must have skipped over it!
DreamWeaver
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I-andro is converts to 1-Test (2 steps) good for strength and size. 550-XD 2 steps to Deca good for the joints strength and some size as well. My instinct says 550 might be a tad stronger but who knows I think they are pretty close the extra joint support will give you good power so lets give 550 the slight edge. Both are very good starting out products as they are mild and pretty safe as long as they are used responsibly...
DreamWeaver
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Yah you kind of got the cycle backwards, you should have bridged finishing with the epi as it dries you out. Always finish with the drier compound. I guess you could bridge it in at 3 ed and then up to 4 ed after the EPI is done. Or 2 ed while on EPI. I would just finish the EPI and go into PCT and save the 1-Andro for the beginning of another cycle. Pick up some EPI-V to finish with.
ScottyDoc
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1-ANDRO is not all that wet, but it is no where near as dry and good of a cutting agent as EPI-V. What DW is trying to say is most people doing a bridge cycle of your kind will start with the bulking agent and then end with the cutting agent, you are doing it the opposite way! I agree with DW and advise you change what you are doing, but if you decide to heed our advice, I would love to hear what your results were doing it "backwards" so to speak! I'm in for the knowledge/experience!!!
DreamWeaver
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Go with EPI-V for after, I have done that after EPI with very nice results but it's for cutting ....
ScottyDoc
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4 caps/day for 6wks is just fine!
BriceBurnsRed
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Quick couple of questions:
I just purchased 1 bottle each of your 1-Andro, and Epi-V. I was planning on stacking them for a 1 month cycle (2 pills/day each) as you suggested in the first few pages of the thread. I'm looking to gain some mass from this cycle but stay lean as well, would I be better to "bridge" them as is being discussed above, or should I just stick with the 1 month stack? Also, I have the PCT Revolution for after my cycle but I'm a little paranoid about gyno, and sides in general. I've got about half a bottle of Formadrol (LGS PCT) that I plan on starting about halfway through my cycle. In combination with my PCT Revo after cycle, will this be sufficient?
Thanks!
I just purchased 1 bottle each of your 1-Andro, and Epi-V. I was planning on stacking them for a 1 month cycle (2 pills/day each) as you suggested in the first few pages of the thread. I'm looking to gain some mass from this cycle but stay lean as well, would I be better to "bridge" them as is being discussed above, or should I just stick with the 1 month stack? Also, I have the PCT Revolution for after my cycle but I'm a little paranoid about gyno, and sides in general. I've got about half a bottle of Formadrol (LGS PCT) that I plan on starting about halfway through my cycle. In combination with my PCT Revo after cycle, will this be sufficient?
Thanks!
DreamWeaver
Legend
Yah but it's a six week run and it does it's job...
There are more expensive similar products out there ....
DreamWeaver
Legend
I would do a bridge but with one bottle each that may not be enough ... unless it's your first cycle then you could probably get away with 2ed of each which would be good for 4 weeks of each. Plus how old are you can't really give proper advice if I don't know...
ScottyDoc
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Awaiting more information before I can comment as well...
I can comment on the PCT, sounds fine Bro, but I would not add the Formadrol unless you actually need it, more of a better safe than sorry kind of thing, besides, I think our PCT is way better than Formadrol (my opinion... biased or not, LoL)!
BriceBurnsRed
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I am 21, so this does happen to be my first cycle.. I've done a decent amount of research on the topic, but I wanted to come here for some clarification.
On the Formadrol, how do I know if I Need something during my cycle? What signs determine this?
I can afford an extra bottle of each easily, so if need be I will get more if a longer cycle is recommended, I just don't want to overdo it my first time.
On the Formadrol, how do I know if I Need something during my cycle? What signs determine this?
I can afford an extra bottle of each easily, so if need be I will get more if a longer cycle is recommended, I just don't want to overdo it my first time.
DreamWeaver
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It converts to DHT (2 steps) that is for hardening and leaning out. I also as a small amount of dandelion root to help further dry you out slowly. It's really something special...