Pulsing P-Plex and M-drol

thelix

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hello gents,

I know it is not a good idea to stack PP with Mdrol, and what most people recommend if you really want to run this two methyl together is to bridge them.

But how about alternate pulsing them EOD ? Would it work better than the bridge and provide less sides than stacking ?
 
I'm not a fan of pulsing. I've looked into it and it just doesn't seem to be worth it for me. I understand you may be able to limit shutdown, but the effects just arent as strong.

If I was 100% set on running both PP and Mdrol, I'd bridge PP into MDrol like:

Pplex:30/30/30 (or 40...depending on user)/40/0/0
Mdrol: 0/0/0/10 or 20/20/20
 
Iagree with.Nick- if u are set on running them, bridge them but don't stack them. I'm not a fan of pulsing either but I know several people that have liked pulsing mdrol- however I would not pulse PP. At your weight I would rec Hdrol

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hey guys...thanks a lot for the tips. I just thought that it could work, but apparently it is not a good idea.

As you guys recommend I will not pulse it and run these 2 compounds safe by bridging then and for a short period of time:

P-Plex: 20/30/30/0/0/0
M-drol: 0/ 0/ 0/20/20/30

I am on the 3rd day of PP and it is going well, no side so far so I think my body reacts well to methyl based compounds.

I am using Cycle Assist, and for PCT I will use Inhibit-E, Lean-FX, Nolva and maybe Clomid in case I get very shutdown.

H-drol will be my next cycle to get a more lean cut, maybe stacking it with Tren.

Is this a good plan ? What do you guys suggest ?
 
thanks a lot mw1, so I will probably change my cycle to:

P-Plex: 20/30/30/30/0/0
M-drol: 0/ 0/ 0/10/20/20

Do you suggest Nolva and Clomid for PCT or is that an overkill and it is better to go with OTC AI and Test booster ?
 
I am running the same thing right now, but only 5 weeks. 6 is definitely a little much, i think 5 would be good for you.

And a SERM is a must for this cycle, i have some clomid & today i ordered some PCT Assist to go along with it. Ill let you know how it goes, im on my 3rd week out of 5 right now.
 
thelix said:
hey guys...thanks a lot for the tips. I just thought that it could work, but apparently it is not a good idea.

As you guys recommend I will not pulse it and run these 2 compounds safe by bridging then and for a short period of time:

P-Plex: 20/30/30/0/0/0
M-drol: 0/ 0/ 0/20/20/30

I am on the 3rd day of PP and it is going well, no side so far so I think my body reacts well to methyl based compounds.

I am using Cycle Assist, and for PCT I will use Inhibit-E, Lean-FX, Nolva and maybe Clomid in case I get very shutdown.

H-drol will be my next cycle to get a more lean cut, maybe stacking it with Tren.

Is this a good plan ? What do you guys suggest ?
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run pplex for another week and lower mdrol to either 10/20/20 or 20/20/20.

also, for PCT Id switch the inhibit E with PCT Assist as you probably don't need another AI (nolva does a decent job at acting as an AI) and could use some trans-res and i3c. Probably don't need both nolva and clomid btw.

Try to keep the cycle to only 6 weeks so there should be a week of overlap with the 2 compounds, which is why 10/20/20 might be best. 20 of mdrol + 30 of pplex might be very harsh on your body at the same time.
 
Thanks a lot for the great tips so far.

I have Cycle Assist ...for on-cycle and PCT. Can that be used instead of PCT Assist ?

...as per mw1, I should run PP for 4 weeks, and with 1 week overlap with M-drol it makes it impossible to make it a 5 week cycle only.

I supposed I could do:

P-Plex: 20/30/30/0 / 0
M-drol: 0 / 0 /10/20/20

Would cutting one week of P-Plex reduce a lot in the gains ?
 
thelix said:
Thanks a lot for the great tips so far.

I have Cycle Assist ...for on-cycle and PCT. Can that be used instead of PCT Assist ?

...as per mw1, I should run PP for 4 weeks, and with 1 week overlap with M-drol it makes it impossible to make it a 5 week cycle only.

I supposed I could do:

P-Plex: 20/30/30/0 / 0
M-drol: 0 / 0 /10/20/20

Would cutting one week of P-Plex reduce a lot in the gains ?
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I am running pplex 3 weeks and mdrol 3 weeks with a one week overlap just as you described. You may be okay with 6 weeks if you keep mdrol lowish

P-Plex: 20/30/30/30/00/00
M-drol: 00/00/00/10/20/20

i guess that would work as long as you have your pct in check :fingersx:

as for cycle assist & pct assist, cycle assist would definitely benefit you but pct assist boost testosterone as well which is an added bonus.


Cycle Assist (240 Capsules):
Cycle Assist is designed to be an all-in-one support solution for basic on cycle and post cycle therapy needs. Cycle Assist contains a combination of specifically dosed ingredients designed to help provide liver, blood pressure, cholesterol, prostate, and acne support.

Also, unlike many other products in its class, every herb in Cycle Assist is a standardized extract and the standardization amount is clearly identified on the label. This is extremely important because it is the amount of active ingredient that an herb is standardized for that determines the level of benefits received from it. Example: A product can be dosed very high in mg of herb powder, but standardized poorly and therefore offer very little if anything in terms of effectiveness.
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P.C.T. Assist (120 Capsules):
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Trans Resveratrol (50%)

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oops just saw you said you will be taking Inhibit-E, Lean-FX, Nolva and maybe Clomid :pat:

i think you will be good enough with that!
 
hey Richard, tks a lot bro...and let me know how you are progressing thru this cycle.

Yep. Tho I am trying to avoid 2 SEMs on my PCT so it will probably be:

Nolva, Formadrol Xtreeme, Lean FX and Cycle Assist.

If my libido is not coming back with Formadrol, than I will add the Clomid.

Since I will be taking Nolva, I guess I won't need Inhibit-E since Nolva will be a strong AI already.
 
well yesterday i started my third week (so today is my second day with mdrol in the mix) and so far i really havent had any sides except a bit of acne.

i have some b5 for that so its not too bad :)

i have gained about 5-6 pounds in the first two weeks but the gains are even more noticeable in the mirror. I am guessing that the last three weeks i will gain about 10 or so more pounds since mdrol is a bit stronger and the fact that i took one capsule a day for the first week on pplex! :P
 
RichardF12 said:
well yesterday i started my third week (so today is my second day with mdrol in the mix) and so far i really havent had any sides except a bit of acne.

i have some b5 for that so its not too bad :)

i have gained about 5-6 pounds in the first two weeks but the gains are even more noticeable in the mirror. I am guessing that the last three weeks i will gain about 10 or so more pounds since mdrol is a bit stronger and the fact that i took one capsule a day for the first week on pplex! :P
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5-6lb in the fist 2 weeks considering you only too 10mg of PP on the first week...that is not too bad at all !

I am on my day 4 of PP, took 20mg on first 3 days, and up it to 30mg from today on. So far, I don't feel much difference since I have been working out hard for the past 5 weeks so was already pretty pumped up when I started on PP.

Let me know how it feels with Mdrol into the mix !

Can't wait to start Mdrol. It is so tempting to just add that in, but hey, I got a life ahead of me and I will need my liver in good shape :)

Do you have anything for the back pumps you might be getting soon ?
 
thelix said:
5-6lb in the fist 2 weeks considering you only too 10mg of PP on the first week...that is not too bad at all !

I am on my day 4 of PP, took 20mg on first 3 days, and up it to 30mg from today on. So far, I don't feel much difference since I have been working out hard for the past 5 weeks so was already pretty pumped up when I started on PP.

Let me know how it feels with Mdrol into the mix !

Can't wait to start Mdrol. It is so tempting to just add that in, but hey, I got a life ahead of me and I will need my liver in good shape :)

Do you have anything for the back pumps you might be getting soon ?
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I personally like pplex more for overall mass, so don't think negatively haha. goodluck.
 
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