protein containing arsenic and lead
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zachwienandt
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i think that's the article you were talking about, there's a couple that say the same thing. Looks like a lot of crap to me, there's trace levels of heavy metals and arsenic in almost all processed foods. If there was really a danger, they would have explicitly named products but they don't have that kind of evidence. The media always jumps all over these isolated and inconclusive studies just to get people riled up for a little while.
i think that's the article you were talking about, there's a couple that say the same thing. Looks like a lot of crap to me, there's trace levels of heavy metals and arsenic in almost all processed foods. If there was really a danger, they would have explicitly named products but they don't have that kind of evidence. The media always jumps all over these isolated and inconclusive studies just to get people riled up for a little while.
monstermash
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Here's the test results. Makes me worry.
Here's the test results. Makes me worry.
EasyEJL
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Theres arsenic and lead in coffee, tomatos, chocolate, etc. Its all over. Theres arsenic and lead in your drinking water provided to you by your local government. Gasp. Theres also acceptable levels established by the FDA for all those things, and none of the products are over the levels.
monstermash
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Oh well when you put it that way I'm glad it's there. :trink26:
EasyEJL
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No, the point was that this is just another sensationalism article put out by media companies trying to find ways to build excitement. Its probably also being pushed by the agenda that coke + pepsi now have of putting out gatorade/powerade with protein in it. Someone is trying to make sure their launch flops. If you can scare people enough about protein drinks right before they both drop multimillions into selling it....
monstermash
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I understand your point, I just felt your statement was too dismissive. It just grinds my gears that I didn't know protein powders contained these substances and i would've rather invested my money in a company that used "cleaner" protein. i and I'm sure many others don't like having to find this out after years of using protein powders.
I think they should test all the protein companies out there including Nutra's to see where everyones protein stands.
EasyEJL
Never enough
Hmm see I don't think you are getting the point. Protein powders, milk in gallon jugs, ground beef, chicken breasts, any food items at all (all the crap you eat day to day) have trace amounts of these in it. "Cleaner" protein is likely a joke as there are only so many facilities that process milk into protein powder and then those resell to everyone.
So the companies that weren't specifically named are right now having a field day smack talking about the ones that were named, but for most of them the only reason they weren't listed was because they weren't tested in the article.
They all already are tested, and all fall into safety guidelines set by the federal government.
monstermash
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I understand that it's in "everything" we eat but if you can avoid it in at least one part of your diet, wouldn't you?
Just help here please- Are implying that Solgar (which had the lowest of all listed) tested that low on a fluke? Cause whichever whey manufacturer they get theirs from would seem to be the best, no?
EasyEJL
Never enough
It varies week to week, batch to batch. Thats the entire reason there is an overall acceptable level of those in foods - so that with spot checking, so long as a manufacturer is never over that cap its reasonable to assume that all batches are under it. Might Solgar's be a hair better to use all the time? Possibly, but is the cost of that worth it considering there is no guarantee as to how much better it is all the time vs spending the money potentially eating organic vegetables or other things? Very tough to say
Dragon13
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Did you look at the Consumer Reports link? Some brands exceeded these very limits in only 3 servings. The fact that they were, on a per-serving basis, under the acceptable daily maximums is not the point.
If one were to drink a Myoplex shake or 2, and add those metal levels to the trace amounts we all ingest daily (as you pointed out) - can you not see that there might be a problem? Why is it that ON and (gasp) MuscleTech can have very low levels, or none at all, while EAS is loaded with arsenioc and Muscle Milk packed with lead?
I found the information very useful. We realy should see more of this type of testing done and results dispersed, not less.
Dragon13
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... if you are drinking 3 servings of muscle milk a day, you are doing something wrong anyhowCause thats around 1100 calories and 150g protein from that alone.
1) That's not the point, either.
2) Now you're just splitting hairs - as if heavy metal contamination would be isolated in mass-produced protein.
EasyEJL
Never enough
Thats not true. Each of the ingredients including the whey itself are of different batches from different manufacturers at any given time. They could 6 months from now retest and solgar be highest while EAS is lowest. When you are dealing in parts per million or parts per billion, the variation is easy
Dragon13
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I'd be surprised if any of the companies in the list used different sources/manufacturers from production batch to production batch. Very surprised.
EasyEJL
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Working in the supplement industry, I'd be very surprised if they didn't.... Particularly with anything that is a natural source that has varying yields year to year, you buy where you buy and from where you can buy it to meet your demand. Particularly with Coke coming out with Powerade with protein, and Pepsi doing Gatorade with protein, anyone else buying production amounts of whey is fighting to find availability at all.