proposed cycle

[Eric160]

so im 6'2 220 maybee 10%bf my goal is to recomp hopefully finish around 230 and a noticably lower bf.

ive been training fairly consistantly with very little time off for the past 5 years. i literally sit on the computer and reasearch diet and training and anabolics all day nearly every day so i would consider myself very knowlageable

on cyle i plan to eat approx 3500 cals a day limiting carbs to the first half of the day around my workout. didnt feel it was necessary too include exact diet and training regimine but it is very calculated im overly anal when it comes to this kind of stuff

ive run several cycles in the past including p-mag, epivar, trenazone, pstanz.

durring cyle and pct i have all support supps including fish oil, liver support, multi ect...

so now the proposesd cycle

ultradrol 12/12/12/12
pstanz 0 /0 /300/300/300/300
nolva 0 /0 /0 /0 /0 /0 /0 /30/30/15/15

also sustain alpha in pct and maybee a daa supplement like formula x

my reasons for choosing the following compounds is because ive been wanting to try ultradrol and can get pstanz for fairly cheap also the fact that is a non methlyl i felt it would be beeter for a bridge with a harsher compund then say epi or halo

 

[schwellington]

Don't expect to gain ten pounds and loose a noticeable amount of body fat in that amount of time. I gained seven pounds on nandrolone phenyl propionate (400mgs) stacked with testosterone and masteron while loosing about 2% bf in six weeks

You will not achieve that with your cycle I would expect to remain the same weight and loose about 2% however with your calories at that level you may gain 10lbs with little to mow Bodhgaya if diet is correct and training correct

 

[Eric160]

agreed goals are always gonna be higher then actual results. what do u think about the cycle though. wanna know what ultra is really like and what the sides are like at 12mg as opposed to 8mg

 

[gymrat827]

its hard to say about the sides, everyone is different. Everyone uses different supports and reacts to compounds in various ways.

But i have seen a couple guys run 16mg of ultra, so 12mg cant be that bad if they can still jump up one more cap ED.....

Your going to have to pick between gaining 10lbs or dropping 2.5% BF.....both are not going to happen in 6wks. Your 3500 cal diet will allow your bulking, not BF loss. If you want to cut drop 1000 cals from your diet.

 

[Eric160]

i would like to maintain my bodyweight while losing fat if i drop a few pounds that alright too. i really just wanted to know what people think about the proposed cycle if bridging ultra and pstanz is a good idea ive personally never seen this done

 

[Eric160]

also what are people thoughs about erase and daa in pct instead of sustain alpha just cuz it seems kinda pricey and idk what to expect. if i choose do do this how should i dose it? im assuming 3g ED of DAA for 4 weeks of pct but idk how or when to dose the erase some ppl say durring pct some say after

 

[gymrat827]

erase is fine, 0/3/2/2/2/1/1 is what you ll wana do. it will cover you for AI needs, cortisol and wont leave you will any rebound post pct

 

[Eric160]

so does this sound like a solid cycle

Week	Ultradrol	P-stanz	nolva	DAA	Erase
1	12mg
2	12mg
3	12mg	300mg
4	12mg	300mg
5		300mg
6		300mg
7			35mg	3g
8			35mg	3g	75mg
9			15mg	3g	50mg
10			15mg	3g	50mg
11					50mg
12					25mg
13					25mg

 

[MattPorter]

I believe you can recomp.

It is very hard to say exactly what will happen as your unique response to hormones could be much greater than the next guy....

Either way ----diet STRICT, DO CARDIO, TRAIN INTENSE and I bet you surprise yourself if you put in the hard work.

The effort you invest into this cycle the more you get out of it ---period.

P.S. Try the sustain alpha topical --it is my favorite as I feel it wayyy more than oral

-Matt

 

[Eric160]

appreciate the advice maybee ill log it wont start for another few weeks i wanna get my diet and training on track so im already on a roll when i start. but im already pumped

 

[Big billy]

also what are people thoughs about erase and daa in pct instead of sustain alpha just cuz it seems kinda pricey and idk what to expect. if i choose do do this how should i dose it? im assuming 3g ED of DAA for 4 weeks of pct but idk how or when to dose the erase some ppl say durring pct some say after

You can get it cheap from other sites other than pp. I found it for 15 during a sale. Google shopping, 5 min= money in the bank. Cycle looks good, is that enough cals for you? Good luck.

 

[Eric160]

You can get it cheap from other sites other than pp. I found it for 15 during a sale. Google shopping, 5 min= money in the bank. Cycle looks good, is that enough cals for you? Good luck.

thanks for the info ive heard alot of ppl saying they do better with more cals on ultra cuz of increased glycogen uptake. im looking more to cut but very slowly as not to lose strength or mass ill probably start at 3500 then go upwards of 4000 if im leaning out too fast. i respond really fast to diet changes so ill know with in a week or so of doing it

 

[Eric160]

i just have one last question on what my diet should be comming up to the cycle the same as it will be while im on shoould i try to cut as much as i ca in hopes of gaining back the muscle lost when i go on or should i keep bulking right until i start the cycle then start cutting. may be a dumb question but im curios what i should do and cant make up my mind

 

[MattPorter]

i just have one last question on what my diet should be comming up to the cycle the same as it will be while im on shoould i try to cut as much as i ca in hopes of gaining back the muscle lost when i go on or should i keep bulking right until i start the cycle then start cutting. may be a dumb question but im curios what i should do and cant make up my mind

Unless you are extremely lean ecto/meso type metabolism then you could keep eating caloric surplus right into the start of the cycle. BUT MOST normal people with average metabolic rates and genetics would do best eating miantenance or BELOW maintenance striving to get leaner prior to starting the cycle which sets up your cycle PERFECT. You will now be HUNGRIER due to dieting so eating more will be a pleasure, and secondly ---you now have anabolic hormones in your blood to make BETTER USE of the excess calories which in turn should keep you leaner. Finally -- A leaner body is a more efficient body, so strength , motivation, confidence will all be insync when you start.

-Matt

 

[Eric160]

Unless you are extremely lean ecto/meso type metabolism then you could keep eating caloric surplus right into the start of the cycle. BUT MOST normal people with average metabolic rates and genetics would do best eating miantenance or BELOW maintenance striving to get leaner prior to starting the cycle which sets up your cycle PERFECT. You will now be HUNGRIER due to dieting so eating more will be a pleasure, and secondly ---you now have anabolic hormones in your blood to make BETTER USE of the excess calories which in turn should keep you leaner. Finally -- A leaner body is a more efficient body, so strength , motivation, confidence will all be insync when you start.

-Matt

i was thinking the same thing just wanted a second opinon i appreciate all the help just ordered my stuff so pumped

 

[MattPorter]

i was thinking the same thing just wanted a second opinon i appreciate all the help just ordered my stuff so pumped

Eric,

will you be logging this cycle? I would like to see the lean, dry gains that you get from running these clean compounds.

Should be lots of quality here --- 5-12 lbs of muscle perhaps...

-Matt

 

[Eric160]

Eric,

will you be logging this cycle? I would like to see the lean, dry gains that you get from running these clean compounds.

Should be lots of quality here --- 5-12 lbs of muscle perhaps...

-Matt

possibly ive never run a log before cuz im kinda lazy but i think it will help me personally to stay strict as i keep track of what i do for me and others reading its a huge possibility but well see how busy i am with work i appreciate all the help