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socrates said:
Unfortunately one of the worse times my diet has been but have been compensating with abit of cardio... ...
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so you are saying you don't normally do cardio?
 
GeneTikz said:
Sexy erectors
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Where? Didn't think I showed those... LOL!


hamper19 said:
so you are saying you don't normally do cardio?
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I've rarely done cardio. I've experimented with it once or twice a week HIIT style for maybe a month or two at most but found it too catabolic especially when I'm eating clean. I did do a boxing routine last spring but I really do prefer to rely just on my diet than on cardio.
 
socrates said:
I've rarely done cardio. I've experimented with it once or twice a week HIIT style for maybe a month or two at most but found it too catabolic especially when I'm eating clean. I did do a boxing routine last spring but I really do prefer to rely just on my diet than on cardio.
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The word BASTARD comes ot mind :D
 
I am having a hard time believing the stats you posted are correct. Don't get me wrong you do have nice build. But I am 5'10 and 250 and your stats are almost the same as mine (except for BF). With a 70lbs differance. I am at 19% BF right since I just got done bulking.
 
Hey Zar.. what say we hook up in TO for dindin? I can report back that you're for real.

*shakes head*

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FTMGuy said:
I am having a hard time believing the stats you posted are correct. Don't get me wrong you do have nice build. But I am 5'10 and 250 and your stats are almost the same as mine (except for BF). With a 70lbs differance. I am at 19% BF right since I just got done bulking.
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No offense taken. :) What are your current stats?

houseman said:
Hey Zar.. what say we hook up in TO for dindin? I can report back that you're for real.

*shakes head*

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That's be cool actually. In fact we should also invite digger as well. Have you met him yet?
Or you guys can drop by when I'm bartending on the weekends.
 
socrates said:
That's be cool actually. In fact we should also invite digger as well. Have you met him yet?
Or you guys can drop by when I'm bartending on the weekends.
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totally!

I've not met Dig's yet. What bar you work at?

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A spanish bar on College and Bathurst, called El Rancho. Its right across another latin bar called Plaza Flamingo. Same owner.

We definitley should meet Digger. I heard he has a pool. :D
 
socrates said:
A spanish bar on College and Bathurst, called El Rancho. Its right across another latin bar called Plaza Flamingo. Same owner.

We definitley should meet Digger. I heard he has a pool. :D
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Ahhh I know the Flamingo! Was in there once about a year ago I think.

Yeah, Digs got a pool. He lives about 10 mins from where I work and about 15 from where I live :)

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My stats at 250 are.

Chest 49
Arms 17.5
Thighs 27
Calves 18
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Its funny. I was just comparing my stats with someone else who's 2 inches shorter and only 5 lbs lighter and at about the same bodyfat. In arm, thigh and calf measurements I have about two inches on him. Only thing he's bigger than me is his waist by 2 inches. What's your waist?
His measurements compared to mine are almost mine compared to yours except in thighs (bigger difference between you and I) and arms (smaller difference) there's only a 5 lbs difference between him and me and 80lbs between you and I.
In fact when I was 180lbs my r. arm reached 17 5/8" cold.
 
houseman said:
Ahhh I know the Flamingo! Was in there once about a year ago I think.

Yeah, Digs got a pool. He lives about 10 mins from where I work and about 15 from where I live :)

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So we should meet up then. It's be cool if digger could make it if not this weekend then maybe when I get back from Mexico. I make a mean long island. :D
 
socrates said:
So we should meet up then. It's be cool if digger could make it if not this weekend then maybe when I get back from Mexico. I make a mean long island. :D
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LOL. I have no doubts about that.

No booze for me.. I be dieting :hurls:

Maybe we can set something up for when you get back. When ya headed?

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socrates said:
Its funny. I was just comparing my stats with someone else who's 2 inches shorter and only 5 lbs lighter and at about the same bodyfat. In arm, thigh and calf measurements I have about two inches on him. Only thing he's bigger than me is his waist by 2 inches. What's your waist?
His measurements compared to mine are almost mine compared to yours except in thighs (bigger difference between you and I) and arms (smaller difference) there's only a 5 lbs difference between him and me and 80lbs between you and I.
In fact when I was 180lbs my r. arm reached 17 5/8" cold.
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my waist is bigger it's at 42 right now. I figure it should be around 34-36 at 10%BF I should be 220 at that weight also. Wierd if you ask me. But its cool that you weigh that much with the same stats as me almost the same. I will never have a 27in waist.
 
houseman said:
LOL. I have no doubts about that.

No booze for me.. I be dieting :hurls:

Maybe we can set something up for when you get back. When ya headed?

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I'm leaving on the coming Tuesday for a week.
We could just then go for a low carb dinner ;). One of us should pm digger as well to see if he has any free time. I probably have the most flexible schedule so its up to you guys when.
 
FTMGuy said:
my waist is bigger it's at 42 right now. I figure it should be around 34-36 at 10%BF I should be 220 at that weight also. Wierd if you ask me. But its cool that you weigh that much with the same stats as me almost the same. I will never have a 27in waist.
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Well now looking at our stats... 3" on the legs, 4" on the chest, 2" on calves and then the waist difference... that would add up to alot weight wise.
You're the same height?
Would you consider your arms a weaker bodypart than your others?
Personally my goal is to get my arms another 1/2", get my calves to about your size and my thighs to 25" while keeping everything the same if possible.

Here's a pic taken almost a year ago at about the same weight now.
 
socrates said:
Well now looking at our stats... 3" on the legs, 4" on the chest, 2" on calves and then the waist difference... that would add up to alot weight wise.
You're the same height?
Would you consider your arms a weaker bodypart than your others?
Personally my goal is to get my arms another 1/2", get my calves to about your size and my thighs to 25" while keeping everything the same if possible.

Here's a pic taken almost a year ago at about the same weight now.
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I want to get 18 in arms but they're not my weakest part. My chest is my lagging body part. Yeah I am the same height.
 
FTMGuy said:
I want to get 18 in arms but they're not my weakest part. My chest is my lagging body part. Yeah I am the same height.
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Hmmm... reading a 49" chest one would assume that wouldn't be a lagging part. I guess you have a pretty large rib cage/ torso? Or else a pretty developed upper back?

At a lower bodyfat do you think the size of your chest would shrink significantly?
 
I hope my chest doesn't shrink that would suck. I might have a big ribcage I don't know how I would measure that though.
 
Geez! I'm 5'8". Wish I could look like that. Good job Bro! What sort of ph cycle did you do? Thanks for posting your routine too :)
 
You're welcome.
I did 1-ad twice. First cycle I used two bottles in 4 weeks, starting with 3 capsules per day and by the last two weeks using 5 capsules per day. I went from 167lbs to 180.5 lbs. And I used only Fuzy post cycle.
Second time I used 1-ad, I stacked it with 1 bottle of ergopharm's 4-ad androdiol. I had let my weight go back down to 170lbs and went back up to 178lbs. I did have a lower back injury which I believe hampered my training. i used 6-oxo post cycle.
 
Yo Zar! Sorry, I can't refer to you as Socrates, just not use to the different name. lol

I didn't know you posted over here too. As always bro, nice pics.
 
max silver said:
Awesome v-taper man, what's your weight sitting at nowadays?
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Thanks. I'm around 172lbs. Hoping to get to 175lbs without any supplement except for protein this time.

Ivan Drago said:
Yo Zar! Sorry, I can't refer to you as Socrates, just not use to the different name. lol

I didn't know you posted over here too. As always bro, nice pics.
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LOL! I spend most of my time here lurking. Still not sure if I'm going to go back on ph's again but always good to be informed.
Thanks Drago.
 
is the picture the one on the avatar to the left? I don't see any other pic except the one with a guy that looks like he's taking a white shirt off???
 
Thanks houseman.

Most of the pics were lost from what I gather...
these three are pretty recent. Taken 2 months ago, a month ago...and just over a week ago.
 

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Wow, man! Truly unbelievable symmetry you got going on there. How long are you able to keep that kind of shape. Most people can't hold that very long. Ive gotten pretty lean before, but not like that and I had trouble holding it more than 2-3 weeks. Also, I'm curious, how heavy did you have to get before cutting down to get that kind of muscular size? Was 180 your max weight?
 
from what I recall. Zar keeps himself that low all year around. He's always sportin abs it seems!

Fucker :D
 
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