Prime or Powerfull????

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What do you guys think, prime or powerfull? i've heard great things about both, but am having a hard time deciding... i'm also taking dark matter (post), animal m-stak (pre), muscle milk for a little bit more protein and amino acids, and novadex XT... Also could i take powerfull or prime along with novadex?? it's just an anti-aromatase so i'm assuming it'd be fine....
 
What are your goals?

Also, you can take both products with Novadex XT. Are you using this as part of a PCT?
 
Also, with an AI, I would also recommend adding Anabolic-Pump. AI's diminish GLUT4 expression and Anabolic-Pump will counter this.
 
no i'm just taking novadex for a little test boost but i've decided i want a little more... it was recommended by a good friend who's doctor recommended it to him because of the nice little test boost with low side effects and b/c he didn't know jack haha

btw what is an AI?? i'm pretty much a noob to supplementing if you haven't noticed, i've been working out for a while and i just seem to lean out and not gain much so i just recently decided to start supplementing other than protein and creatine... genetics is a bitch.
 
and my goal is basically is to just put on muscle and gain strength, i'm already pretty lean and have little fat...
 
immaboss9 said:
no i'm just taking novadex for a little test boost but i've decided i want a little more... it was recommended by a good friend who's doctor recommended it to him because of the nice little test boost with low side effects and b/c he didn't know jack haha

btw what is an AI?? i'm pretty much a noob to supplementing if you haven't noticed, i've been working out for a while and i just seem to lean out and not gain much so i just recently decided to start supplementing other than protein and creatine... genetics is a bitch.
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A medical doctor recommended Gaspari Novadex XT for "a test boost"?
Interesting.

An "AI" is an Aromatase Inhibitor.
 
immaboss9 said:
and my goal is basically is to just put on muscle and gain strength, i'm already pretty lean and have little fat...
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I would stack PRIME with Anabolic-Pump for your situation.

A synergistic blend of:
Anabolic-Pump - Increased glycogen capacity, Increased Carbohydrate Metabolism, Increased pumps "Food Pump", Increase Lipolysis, etc.
&
PRIME - Increased Muscle Mass, Increased Strength, Increased Recovery, Slightly Increased Appetite, Increased Aggression, etc.
 
borobulker said:
A medical doctor recommended Gaspari Novadex XT for "a test boost"?
Interesting.

yea kinda, he lived in mexico for a while and lost a bunch of weight and couldn't put it back on so he wasn't really tryin to have massive gains in the gym as much as he was just tryin to gain weight, and thanks a lot man...
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would you recommend the powerfull to an 18 yr old??
 
currently bulking ..would like to give powerfull a shot ...my only question is, is it okay to take with whey protein pre workout as long as there are no carbohydrate, or will the digestion of the whey release insulin hinder the effect of powerfull .....whey 30 min pre workout ...powerfull 15 min preworkout ...that was going to be my starting point and just go from there to see where i get the most effects
 
dra05ke said:
currently bulking ..would like to give powerfull a shot ...my only question is, is it okay to take with whey protein pre workout as long as there are no carbohydrate, or will the digestion of the whey release insulin hinder the effect of powerfull .....whey 30 min pre workout ...powerfull 15 min preworkout ...that was going to be my starting point and just go from there to see where i get the most effects
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Take PowerFULL 30 minutes before your pre-workout meal instead. Or make an effort to eat an hour and a half before your workout then take PowerFULL 30 minutes before your workout and stack Jacked with it... insane synergy.
 
dra05ke said:
currently bulking ..would like to give powerfull a shot ...my only question is, is it okay to take with whey protein pre workout as long as there are no carbohydrate, or will the digestion of the whey release insulin hinder the effect of powerfull .....whey 30 min pre workout ...powerfull 15 min preworkout ...that was going to be my starting point and just go from there to see where i get the most effects
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In all honesty, and if one product is your limit, I would suggest PRIME over PowerFULL for your specific goals. PowerFULL is an unfathomably complex product in regards to its physiology, but its effects may be subtle at your age. PRIME would provide a more noticeable and substantial effect on a bulk; may be worth opting for it over PowerFULL, at this point, at least.

This being said, if you are a anabolic user currently or plan to be, a recent study [Mucuna pruriens improves male fertility by its action on the hypothalamus–pituitary–gonadal axis: et al., 2008] utilizing PowerFULL noted substantial increases in LH, Total T, sperm count and utility, and significant decreases in ejaculatory refractory times [most likely because of...] and Prolactin; these increases were much more substantial in oligozoospermic [low sperm count] and asthenozoospermic [no sperm count] men than normozoospermic [normal sperm count] men, but the increases were substantial in each group! As the study postulates, this provides clear evidence that PowerFULL is modulating the HPGA, the 'control-center' for male hormone production.

At this point, I feel that utilizing triple-dose PowerFULL in conjunction with 5,7 benzoflavone may assist in mitigating testicular atrophy while on cycle; at the very least, it would continue spermatogenesis whilst on cycle!
 
that'd be cool if reps just wouldn't give their opinions on their products annymore, i feel like i'm just getting biased bs most of the time...
 
immaboss9 said:
that'd be cool if reps just wouldn't give their opinions on their products annymore, i feel like i'm just getting biased bs most of the time...
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Unsure if that was directed at me or not, but, if it was, I don't feel I was giving opinion.

Here is the abstract from the study I spoke about, and the reference was provided for you to examine:

Objective: To understand the mechanism of action of Mucuna pruriens in the treatment of male infertility.

Design: Prospective study.

Setting: Departments of Biochemistry, Urology, and Obstetrics and

Gynecology, C.S.M. Medical University,
Lucknow, India.

Patient(s): Seventy-five normal healthy fertile men (controls) and 75 men undergoing infertility screening.

Intervention(s): High-performance liquid chromatography assay for quantitation of dopa, adrenaline, and nor-adrenaline in seminal plasma and blood. Estimation by RIA of hormonal parameters in blood plasma, namely
T, LH, FSH, and PRL.

Main Outcome Measure(s): Before and after treatment, serum T, LH, FSH, PRL, dopamine, adrenaline, and nor- adrenaline in seminal and blood plasma were measured.

Result(s): Decreased sperm count and motility were seen in infertile subjects. Serum T and LH levels, as well as seminal plasma and blood levels of dopamine, adrenaline, and noradrenaline were also decreased in all groups of infertile men. This was accompanied by significantly increased serum FSH and PRL levels in oligozoospermic subjects. Treatment with M. pruriens significantly improved T, LH, dopamine, adrenaline, and noradrenaline levels in infertile men and reduced levels of FSH and PRL. Sperm count and motility were significantly recovered in
infertile men after treatment.

Conclusion(s): Treatment with M. pruriens regulates steroidogenesis and improves semen quality in infertile men.
(Fertil SterilÒ 2008;-:-–-. Ó2008 by American Society for Reproductive Medicine.)

Key Words: Male infertility, testosterone, Mucuna pruriens, dopamine, catecholamines, follicle-stimulating
hormone

Statistics in normozoospermic men:

Semen Volume: 2.56mL pretreatment/ 2.78 post-treatment
LH: 6.08mlU/mL pretreatment/ 7.50 post-treatment
Total T: 4.49 ng/mL pretreatment/ 5.72 post-treatment

Normozoospermic men are men with completely normal spermatogenesis. I was merely saying that the increases in sperm motility, serum semen volume, and LH would be highly beneficial on cycle; nothing too much speculative or opinionated about that, IMO.
 
My question is on the powerfull and prime supps. (since they both have on and off day directions of usage) when it says use 5 days on and 2 days off...do they mean on the off days take the off day recommended dosage or do not take anything at all?
 
almerrick1 said:
My question is on the powerfull and prime supps. (since they both have on and off day directions of usage) when it says use 5 days on and 2 days off...do they mean on the off days take the off day recommended dosage or do not take anything at all?
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Take nothing at all.
 
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