Precautions while using tren... Caber?

dsw222

dsw222

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If one was to do a test cyp / tren e cycle, what precautions would you recommend?

Thought of so far...
-Nolva on hand for gyno,
-HCG shot 2x a week at 250IU (500IU/wk) to keep natural test firing
-Dex run at .25mg ED throughout cycle to keep estrogen under control (estrogen from test, since tren supposedly doesnt convert)

post cycle therapy will be toremifine at:
Day 1-5 = 120mg
Day 6-21 = 60mg
Day 22-28 = 30mg
(protocol is recommended a lot at BB forums)

What are your opinions on Caber? I have been reading a lot about prolactin but still dont quite understand how it will affect you, or how you can tell when your levels are getting to high. If you recommend it, what dosage?

Any help or info would be appreciated! :)
 
i have heard/read that caber causes major heart problems in a huge % of the users. i chose to use tren ace, then if i get any issues i will just stop using it.
 
If you've never used tren before its safer to use acetate, if tren gives you problems you can get off quicker.

cabergoline will fight prolactin induced gyno. Sry dont know dosage
 
UnrealMachine said:
If you've never used tren before its safer to use acetate, if tren gives you problems you can get off quicker.

cabergoline will fight prolactin induced gyno. Sry dont know dosage
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I have run tren ace in the past, and never had any problems with it (or never NOTICED any problems... since I dont really know what to look out for prolactin-wise)

So basically, if gyno comes up on a tren/test cycle you should start nolva and caber to attack the gyno from two different angles? I did read the article about it being linked to heart valve issues, and dont like the sound of that.

One of the steroid profiles suggests to take t3 at 25mcg a day on cycle to prevent the prolactin gyno... would this be effective to do instead of having caber on hand?
 
dsw222 said:
I have run tren ace in the past, and never had any problems with it (or never NOTICED any problems... since I dont really know what to look out for prolactin-wise)

So basically, if gyno comes up on a tren/test cycle you should start nolva and caber to attack the gyno from two different angles? I did read the article about it being linked to heart valve issues, and dont like the sound of that.

One of the steroid profiles suggests to take t3 at 25mcg a day on cycle to prevent the prolactin gyno... would this be effective to do instead of having caber on hand?
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B6 or P5P daily could be used to prevent/reduce prolactin.
 
If you do some research on Caber, you will find that the heart valve problems only occur with high daily doses. For prolactin control, your going to be running a small dose, only twice a week. Sorry I don't remember the dose off the top of my head.
 
i agree with X. P5P works extremely well at controlling prolactin for me. I usually get tender nips when using a progestin but not anymore!
 
why dont u just go with an oral like winny or oxandrolone? ull get no problems with those as they are mildly androgenic but heavily anabolic. cuts the hassle of doing so many injections since u have to do tren like 3 or 4 times a week.
 
Thanks for the responses and tips guys!



Xodus said:
B6 or P5P daily could be used to prevent/reduce prolactin.
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I will look into this, thanks!


anchorman0890 said:
why dont u just go with an oral like winny or oxandrolone? ull get no problems with those as they are mildly androgenic but heavily anabolic. cuts the hassle of doing so many injections since u have to do tren like 3 or 4 times a week.
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I will be running Tren E which is only 2 injections per week. I hear var is a decent oral, but it seems too pricey for what you get from it.
 
tren is 9045720 times stronger than either of those orals. var is so mild many people barely make any gains on it at all, i have never met someone who didn't make insane gains from a tren cycle
 
neverstop said:
var is so mild many people barely make any gains on it at all
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lol i hear waht ur sayin but i come from a powerlifting background so i like to throw it in there just for the powreful anabolic properties. it is a real confidence booster to see ur bench go up maybe 60 lbs from week 1 of the cycle. idk maybe its just psychological for me.
 
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