thanks for the replies everyone, after looking at them all i reckon the ragnork is the product i'm going to give a go, an impressive ingredient profile with a good amount of servings per tub. (unfortunatly cost is a factor i have to consider) premax looks good and i like pp products but a over 4 quid a serving way to pricey for me. all the products suggested had good reviews and will probably give some more of them a go and log my results to see which worked best for me.
i noticed that the ragnork has magnesium in it, does anyone know how much as other products i have taken with a large dosage of magnesium in it played havoc with my stomach (supperpump 250) and has anyone using this had similar problems.
thanks for all your input it really is appreciated.