pp's oral liqua-vida

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ok, so the word is this delivery is 3x better than topical delivery. so my question is, could i add a gram of formestane to sustain? better question, is this available just as delivery- to be able to add your own ingredients? i was thinking formestane or 1 carboxy would be great in this delivery system.
 
thebigt said:
ok, so the word is this delivery is 3x better than topical delivery. so my question is, could i add a gram of formestane to sustain? better question, is this available just as delivery- to be able to add your own ingredients? i was thinking formestane or 1 carboxy would be great in this delivery system.
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ok found this:

Keep in mind, Liqua-Vade may enhance the delivery of other non-water soluble supplements and/or medications. Therefore, it is important to consult your practitioner prior to consuming prescription medication in conjunction with Liqua-Vade.
 
nunes said:
ok found this:

Keep in mind, Liqua-Vade may enhance the delivery of other non-water soluble supplements and/or medications. Therefore, it is important to consult your practitioner prior to consuming prescription medication in conjunction with Liqua-Vade.
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so it looks like formestane and 1 carboxy would both be good candidates for liqua-vade?
 
3 X would make it so strong you'd have watch how you dose it. How many doses in a bottle of liqua vade?
 
DreamWeaver said:
3 X would make it so strong you'd have watch how you dose it. How many doses in a bottle of liqua vade?
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waiting for a pp rep to chime in, geez they are all over the place you would think they could make the time to answer a few simple questions?
 
subd for an answer as well. I picked up 2 bottles liquid-vade for use with my PCT in feb/mar. How about running it with an oral serm (liquid or tab).
 
In the meantime if it is 30 doses then each dose would contain 33.3 mg X 3 = the equality of 100 mg td... for one dose.
 
DreamWeaver said:
In the meantime if it is 30 doses then each dose would contain 33.3 mg X 3 = the equality of 100 mg td... for one dose.
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hell yeah, that's what i am talking about. but not going to get hopes up-been very disappointed in the past. td formestane always seems to come out on top. but this new delivery system looks very promising.
 
thebigt said:
hell yeah, that's what i am talking about. but not going to get hopes up-been very disappointed in the past. td formestane always seems to come out on top. but this new delivery system looks very promising.
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I'm also skeptical about the 3x increase. However, the topical was a kickass product IMO so I figured I'd give the oral a whirl. Might even log it when I start PCT in Feb.
 
Trauma1 I've been waiting for you my whole life! Or at least since this thread started. Where are you?
 
thebigt said:
ok, so the word is this delivery is 3x better than topical delivery. so my question is, could i add a gram of formestane to sustain? better question, is this available just as delivery- to be able to add your own ingredients? i was thinking formestane or 1 carboxy would be great in this delivery system.
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wow if this is the case this would work wonders
Primordial Performance always has had good stuff and if they could offer just the LV then that would open up a lot of options here

Great Question thebigt
 
learn said:
wow if this is the case this would work wonders
Primordial Performance always has had good stuff and if they could offer just the LV then that would open up a lot of options here

Great Question thebigt
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a question is only as good as the answer, and since we don't have one....:bigok:
 
thebigt said:
ok, so the word is this delivery is 3x better than topical delivery. so my question is, could i add a gram of formestane to sustain? better question, is this available just as delivery- to be able to add your own ingredients? i was thinking formestane or 1 carboxy would be great in this delivery system.
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Hey T. Sorry I didn't see this earlier, but I've been on baby watch.

To my knowledge we may have this available solo as a delivery in the near future. I know that we've had quite a bit of interest in it as of late. I will definitely keep you updated with any further news in this regard.

As for adding in the formestane to the SA, I would have to double check with Eric to be certain, but based on formestane's properties, it should work well given the delivery modality of liqua-vade.

Just to let you guys know, I may not always see these threads at times. As of late, I've been pretty slammed, and with a new baby on the way my time is limited right now. You know I always do my best to answer any questions in a timely fashion. :)
 
Trauma1 said:
Hey T. Sorry I didn't see this earlier, but I've been on baby watch.

To my knowledge we may have this available solo as a delivery in the near future. I know that we've had quite a bit of interest in it as of late. I will definitely keep you updated with any further news in this regard.

As for adding in the formestane to the SA, I would have to double check with Eric to be certain, but based on formestane's properties, it should work well given the delivery modality of liqua-vade.

Just to let you guys know, I may not always see these threads at times. As of late, I've been pretty slammed, and with a new baby on the way my time is limited right now. You know I always do my best to answer any questions in a timely fashion. :)
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thanks john, you know i would be the last person to hold putting family first against anyone. if molecular weight is what you are concerned with, the old topical carrier was compatible with formestane-i had a few discussions with eric concerning this. if the liqua-vida is not available as a carrier, how about talking to eric about a limited run of formestane? 3x more bio than topical in an oral solution? damn,bro-you are talking about a overnight sensation. btw-i could see a combo of 1 carboxy/formestane being one hell of a hgh/test boost.:veryhappy:
 
formestane should have a log-p value of around 2-3 so it will be fine in the liqua-vade and you could expect the same enhancement of delivery.

Throwing it in with the Sustain Alpha might work... sorta...

The problem is getting in to dissolve properly. You will probably need to introduce some heat and sheer force to make this happen... but you would have to be careful not to burn the liqua-vade or bring it above 140.

-Eric
 
Primordial Perf said:
formestane should have a log-p value of around 2-3 so it will be fine in the liqua-vade and you could expect the same enhancement of delivery.

Throwing it in with the Sustain Alpha might work... sorta...

The problem is getting in to dissolve properly. You will probably need to introduce some heat and sheer force to make this happen... but you would have to be careful not to burn the liqua-vade or bring it above 140.

-Eric
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with all the interest in a viable oral delivery any chance of a limited run of pre-mixed formestane. i know i would be very interested, and i can't speak for others but i would be willing to bet there would be enormous interest in this.
 
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thebigt said:
with all the interest in a viable oral delivery any chance of a limited run of pre-mixed formestane. i know i would be very interested, and i can't speak for others but i would be willing to bet there would be enormous interest in this.
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That's Eric's call, but you know I'm game, haha! :D

I doubt it though in light of the recent FDA actions.
 
Trauma1 said:
That's Eric's call, but you know I'm game, haha! :D

I doubt it though in light of the recent FDA actions.
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yeah, i realize formestane will probably be on the fda 'hit list', i have been stocking up. but i believe there is plenty of time to sneak in a limited run. it would be advantageous to both pp and your customers. if nothing else i would be willing to try the liqua-vida carrier, if i could purchase it solo-i have plenty of bulk formestane-you can bet on that, lol.!
 
thebigt said:
yeah, i realize formestane will probably be on the fda 'hit list', i have been stocking up. but i believe there is plenty of time to sneak in a limited run. it would be advantageous to both pp and your customers. if nothing else i would be willing to try the liqua-vida carrier, if i could purchase it solo-i have plenty of bulk formestane-you can bet on that, lol.!
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My guess is you will probably see all the steroidial aromatase inhibitors banned in the next 6 months... so its probably not something we will get into.

-Eric
 
Primordial Perf said:
My guess is you will probably see all the steroidial aromatase inhibitors banned in the next 6 months... so its probably not something we will get into.

-Eric
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yes that is timeline i am thinking too. but i feel that is when production will stop, probably still be able to find at different sites for at least a year. ok, on to second part of question- any chance of the carrier being made available to people like me willing to experiment?
 
thebigt said:
yes that is timeline i am thinking too. but i feel that is when production will stop, probably still be able to find at different sites for at least a year. ok, on to second part of question- any chance of the carrier being made available to people like me willing to experiment?
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liquavade+formestane= me want to try!!!! i have added formestane to 5 bottles of Eviscerate, Napalm, penetrate, W/ GHenerate UTT and loved every minute of it. i am very tempted to buy some SA LV and add some in
 
rob561 said:
liquavade+formestane= me want to try!!!! i have added formestane to 5 bottles of Eviscerate, Napalm, penetrate, W/ GHenerate UTT and loved every minute of it. i am very tempted to buy some SA LV and add some in
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how much you thinking-maybe a gm or 2? not sure what the saturation point would be? btw i thought the molecular weight of formestane would be incompatible with evescerate/napalm?
 
DAdams91982 said:
didn't you release a 1-Test precursor in your new technology? Wouldnt you have the same worries?
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I think he means more of not adding another new addition to the product line at this time that could potentially be an issue in the near future.

You're right though; the FDA could kick in the door at anytime and take action.
 
Trauma1 said:
I think he means more of not adding another new addition to the product line at this time that could potentially be an issue in the near future.

You're right though; the FDA could kick in the door at anytime and take action.
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Ah, understood. I thought you all pulled the 1-T because of the heat. Can't let those kilo's go to waste. :D
 
thebigt said:
how much you thinking-maybe a gm or 2? not sure what the saturation point would be? btw i thought the molecular weight of formestane would be incompatible with evescerate/napalm?
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Liqua vade should have plenty of room for a gram or two. as for the Eviscerate/formesatne it took alot of heating and mixing to get just over a gram into them. small amounts of formestane go along way for me, small dose big boost
 
thebigt said:
yes that is timeline i am thinking too. but i feel that is when production will stop, probably still be able to find at different sites for at least a year. ok, on to second part of question- any chance of the carrier being made available to people like me willing to experiment?
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If we where going to release the carrier would would have to test it on more compounds... because its not going to work with everything... and people can end up wasting time and money by trying to concont something up.

Not to mention we dont really have the customer service man power to be answering questions related to custom compounding...

-Eric
 
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