PP Turinabol or CEL Hdrol???
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taze13
New member
Some support supps, ie milk thistle, make the compound less effective if taken at the same time.
wolfe14
Active member
ok thats what I hear but my dosing schedule is 25mg when i wake up at 7 a.m then usually 50 mg preWO..my dosing protocol for cycle support is one scoop with my morning shake and 1 sccop with my bedtime shake..so the morning dose would conflict then...How should I dose everything so i'm not taking at the same time..?????
On non workout days im dosing the Hdrol 25mg a.m...25mg noon...25mg at 6 pm
mw1
Sponsor
Take the CS at 11am and bedtime then
jbryand101b
Banned
the healthier your body is, the better it will be at getting rid of things that shouldn't be there. like methylated steroids.
stronger liver means it will get rid of the steroid quicker.
this is what people mean by effecting gains. which is what it could lead to. what they mean to say, is it support supplements help your body to shorten the half life of the steroid, and help your body get rid of it quicker, there by, possibly effects the gains.
if you want to be healthy, stay all natural.
otherwise, dont half ass it. steroids in supraphysiological dosages arent healthy, bottom line.
stronger liver means it will get rid of the steroid quicker.
this is what people mean by effecting gains. which is what it could lead to. what they mean to say, is it support supplements help your body to shorten the half life of the steroid, and help your body get rid of it quicker, there by, possibly effects the gains.
if you want to be healthy, stay all natural.
otherwise, dont half ass it. steroids in supraphysiological dosages arent healthy, bottom line.
soontobbeast
Well-known member
anyone ever ramp down on the last week to possibly make PCT and recovery of natural levels quicker?
wolfe14
Active member
Bumpidy bump bump!!
jbryand101b
Banned
no reason to bump up the hdrol. maybe bump up the dermacrine.
and after 4 weeks on steroids (sometimes less) it isn't going to matter if you bump it down, cause your already shut down.
but, bumping it up, could effect suppression even more, so it's always best to get by with as little as you can, while still getting great gains.
more steroid wont bring more gains after a certain point, only bring more sides, and shut down.
how have the gains been so far?
and after 4 weeks on steroids (sometimes less) it isn't going to matter if you bump it down, cause your already shut down.
but, bumping it up, could effect suppression even more, so it's always best to get by with as little as you can, while still getting great gains.
more steroid wont bring more gains after a certain point, only bring more sides, and shut down.
how have the gains been so far?
Trauma1
Legend
If you're still getting good results there is no need to increase the dosage of either product.
More does NOT always = better. Often the only evinced effects of increasing the dosage are enhanced side effects. You want to utilize the smallest possible dose while attaining a desirable effect.
So, if you're still doing well, I'd stay on your present course.
-John
jbryand101b
Banned
wolfe14
Active member
so far gains have been just ok...nothing extarordianary..should've ran my superdone...How much should I bump up the dermacrine and why???
srgraham69
Member
While running the cycle I would suggest taking it as an opportunity to take a break from the stims. It will be better for your blood pressure, or I would atleast suggest a break from them until the lethargy kicks in from the cycle if you have this side, just being on cycle should have u pretty hyped up for a while until/if sides start kicking in.
The dermacrine can help combat some of the sides you may have from the Hdrol
roachboy101
New member
trauma, i just happened to order my turinabol muscle stack yesterday, and it will be the first time i've ever used a PH will prob be logging it. had one stupid nooby question for ya, i have somewhat of a belly haha, if diet right and use the dosing as so on the PP site, will it not make me bulge out a bit?
jbryand101b
Banned
dieting right, and eating healthy plus exercise will help reduce the belly.
turin lv will help make your muscles bigger.
turin lv will help make your muscles bigger.
jbryand101b
Banned
how much are you taking? i'd say doulbe the recomended dose.
or it isn't to late to start the sd and stack it with the hd, but i think it'll be a waste.
just be patient, hd takes time to build quality muscle.
wolfe14
Active member
This is the last week on HDROl i did bump to 100mg the last 5 days and i definitely see some very nice results now..looking harder and muscles are def bigger & fuller..last day will be wed...but i was curious about running SD lv at low dose of 10 mg for 2-3 weeks starting thurs then starting a very strong PCT...i am taking xtra supports and have been all thru out...my pct i have clomid and nolva liquid so i will def run 1 of the 2 along with Primordial performance TRS stack, that should be sufficient enough to help me bounce back.. i do not feel shut down at ALL at this point however I really don't know how that is suppose to feel..This is my second cycle with good results...i am by nature a cautious person and tend to take good care of myself...If I do decide to do this i will def break till the fall before running another! i just want to pack on as much as possible before summer and feel this idea would be awesome...Please tell me what you all think.
Thanks
Thanks
wolfe14
Active member
greaser
Member
I wouldn't do it. Not so much because of suppression, but because of your liver. I got bloodwork done 2 weeks into PCT and my liver took a beating. I ran it 50/50/50/75/75 too, so I was pretty cautious, and I was taking Liver Juice LV and CEL's Cycle Assist. My AST went from 36 to 79 (should be under 40) and my ALT went from 32 to 111 (should be under 55)! I felt just fine, but methylated compounds are no joke.
Run the SD next time. See if you can keep what you've gained in PCT, and apply that knowledge to your next cycle. I understand the need to push for more gains, but I think it's when people get greedy for more that they do stuff that ends up causing damage.
wolfe14
Active member
thanks dude! Very well put...I will probably finish PCT and then start a 10 wk cycle of test cyp at 250mg a week..nothing major its my first injectable..what are your thoughts on that?
Jimbo15
Primordial Performance Rep
Take some time off after pct, let your body have a break from messing with your hormones.