PowerFULL NON-Responders

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IF you did not respond to PowerFULL or where dissappointed please post here.

Please state when you purchased and how you took it (dosing patterns and with or without food).

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IF you did not respond to PowerFULL or where dissappointed please post here.

Please state when you purchased and how you took it (dosing patterns and with or without food).

thank you
 
I am not quite sure if I am a non-responder, but I did not get any of the sleep benefits. It might be because I sleep deep as it is and there is little room for improvement. I noticed some strength increase and muscle fullness but no libido increase. I wouldn't buy it again. I got mine from Planetary Nutrition and dosed 4 to 8 caps a day, all before meals, using up 2 bottles over 6 weeks.

This also begs the question: If PowerFULL really increases dopamine, isn't it best to be used in the morning only? That would coincide with the circadian cycle of dopamine. I guess it could be also tapered down during the day to match that cycle more closely.
 
machinehead said:
I am not quite sure if I am a non-responder, but I did not get any of the sleep benefits. It might be because I sleep deep as it is and there is little room for improvement. I noticed some strength increase and muscle fullness but no libido increase. I wouldn't buy it again. I got mine from Planetary Nutrition and dosed 4 to 8 caps a day, all before meals, using up 2 bottles over 6 weeks.

This also begs the question: If PowerFULL really increases dopamine, isn't it best to be used in the morning only? That would coincide with the circadian cycle of dopamine. I guess it could be also tapered down during the day to match that cycle more closely.
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when was It purchased?Estimate is fine.
 
Well this is kind of weird to see this thread as just yesterday i was wondering to myself why my powerfull hasnt kicked in yet. This is with the new formula as well and recently purchased it about 2 1/2 weeks ago.

The first one i tried with red caps had me dreamin like mad crazy, pumps were great and i felt like i was on a mild dose of test. The new bottle comes out and i figured id try it and so far, nothing. Anything up USP? I love ur products so this wont stop me im just curious is all.

Manufacture Date is 3/15/06 in case that matters.

Thanks guys.

On edit: Im also at the highest dose recommended where before i had to drop it down actually when it first came out.
 
3clipseGT said:
Well this is kind of weird to see this thread as just yesterday i was wondering to myself why my powerfull hasnt kicked in yet. This is with the new formula as well and recently purchased it about 2 1/2 weeks ago.

The first one i tried with red caps had me dreamin like mad crazy, pumps were great and i felt like i was on a mild dose of test. The new bottle comes out and i figured id try it and so far, nothing. Anything up USP? I love ur products so this wont stop me im just curious is all.

Manufacture Date is 3/15/06 in case that matters.

Thanks guys.

On edit: Im also at the highest dose recommended where before i had to drop it down actually when it first came out.
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How are u dosing?
 
Im dosing it just like on the bottle, but 3 in the morning 30 mins before i drink my protein shake, 3 about mid afternoon with about 20 mins before food, and then ill take 3 most of the time before my workout as i workout at night a lot of the time and thats about 20 mins before whatever i have as well.
 
Non-responder here
Purchased when it 1st came out. Dosed 6 caps spread throughout the day on empty stomach.
 
I definately responded very well to Powerfull, so I'm not sure if I'm someone you want posting on this, but the side effect that made me stop was that I was feeling pain in my pubertal gynocemastia (bilaterally) after about 1.5 weeks on PFull and I didnt feel like screwing around with an AI. Also, I was dosing 9/day until I got that pain, then dropped to 6/day, then alittle lower, but at that dose I lost any positive effects and by then I got pretty scared about the gyno.

However, it definately gave me an intense pump and some strength. I wish it didnt have that nasty little side of gyno pain.
 
Hi USP,

Ive used PowerFULL 3 times now, and I have to say I did not notice much in the way of positive effects from it, at least compared to what others have claimed. It seems to have some estrogenic activity, because 3-4 days after dosing I notice puffy nipples. This is resolved with a anti-e like ATD, however.

Ive run a few very successful natural stacks where PowerFULL was a component, but by itself it hasnt really done much for me.

BV
 
Ordered my bottle on 6/8.

Dosing was 2 before breakfast, 4 pre-workout, and 2 before bed.

After about one week into it, I had two awesome workouts in a row which I credited to the PowerFULL. Unfortunately, before and after those two days I didn't notice anything workout wise.

There is a definite effect on my sleep though. Nothing could wake me up at night, and I somehow managed to chuck every blanket and pillow off my bed every night. It's a little more difficult to get up in the morning, but after I'm fully awake I have noticeably more energy.

No effect on libido.
 
I started taking it after a cycle of anagen and stacked the powerfull with activate. I bought it about a month and a half ago. I had great gains with the anagen but didnt notice much with the other two products. I would take two in the morning, four before workouts, and two at night of the powerfull. non workout days was just three in the morning and three at night. it was a disapointment after hearing all the great reviews it had.
 
The first bottle was just sent to me.. ;)

Took 9 caps, 3 30mins prior to breakfast, 3 prior to lunch, 3 pre-workout.. Noticed pumps and such, got more from the beta Symmetry as far as libido and sleep.. Second bottle I got from Low Fat Know Fat, dosed 12 this time, still not much to hump a leg about.. Most my friends who I got using PowerFULL get stronger and leaner, go figure!

REM and Cissus works like crazy for me and my pops.. :thumbsup:
 
I got some when it first was released and dosed two, three times a day with and without meals, it put me in a aggravated mood and gave me a headache and actually upset my stomach a little, I stopped taking it after 10 days...
 
I purchased your initial buy 4 get 1 free offer. Lot #039467. Of the three remaining bottles, 2 are full with unbroken seals and 1 partial. For the first bottle, I initially dosed 2 caps 2 times per day on an empty stomach. Due to a lack of response, I increased the dose to 3 caps 3 times per day until the bottle ran out. For the second bottle, I dosed 5 caps 3 times per day for a little over one week with no response. I was on a bulking cycle for the first two bottles. The only supplements used during this time were PowerFULL and Cissus. Since this time I have started a cutting cycle and on several occassions I have dosed from the third bottle as high as 10caps on empty stomach 30 minutes prior to workout - still nothing. Unfortunately for me, PowerFULL just doesn't work.

I'm 43 years old, 25 years of lifting experience, 6 ft, currently 155 lbs (when cut) and 185 lbs when bulking. I do mega dose multi-vitamins - have been for over 25 years. Life Extension brand caps taken with every meal.
 
CNorris said:
Why are you asking when we purchased it. Did some of us get a bad batch, or a different formula?
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I've been wondering the same thing :think:
 
Well I lost some confidence in USP Labs now that I possibly have bunk PowerFull. Why else would they be asking about manufacture dates corresponding with no results? I would appreciate and explanation.
 
I tried one bottle of PowerFULL and didn't notice any of the results experienced by others. I think I also experienced somewhat of an estrogenic effect as well. I felt bloated and seemed to store fat easier than usual.

A caveat is that I had just finished a 2 month cycle of Designer Supplements ActivaTe. Perhaps there was some estro rebound associated with that?

Another caveat is that I'm currently an out of shape fat a**; perhaps my body isn't properly primed to take advantage of PowerFULL's effects.

This was about 4 months ago; purchased the product from Planetary Nutrition; I took the product per the label instructions; i.e., on an empty stomach.
 
phasar said:
powerfull has the potential to cause gyno??
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PowerFULL does increase test levels so it can aggrevate a pre-exisiting conditionn not cause it..
 
Trauma1 said:
I've been wondering the same thing :think:
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2 different formulas.

USPLabs understands that PowerFULL will find some non-responders. We sold over 15,000 bottles in the last 2 months. PowerFULL has a proven track record but not many companies ask for the negative.

We will use the negative for positive in our National advertising campaign.

Thank you!
 
USPLabs said:
2 different formulas.

USPLabs understands that PowerFULL will find some non-responders. We sold over 15,000 bottles in the last 2 months. PowerFULL has a proven track record but not many companies ask for the negative.

We will use the negative for positive in our National advertising campaign.

Thank you!
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So those of us who got the worse formula get a free bottle?
 
Just a thought, were most of the 'non responders' using in pct? I was and I was initally disappointed that my strength didn't remain or increase, but logically after coming off trn/superdrol stack it would have been asking a lot. I'm finished with prohomones now and sticking with the naturals, so I'm going to give p'full a fair chance on it's own after a few months off - I did have better fullness and vascularity so thinking it may have been a case of reading to many great reports and expecting too much!

Massive kudos to D and usp for asking the question in the first place - would have been much easier to ignore a possible problem rather than trying to solve it.

:thumbsup:

Edit: should have said, took with creatine on an empty gut - got it a few months ago from a Uk supplier
 
I used it about 6 months ago, two bottles, didn't see anything postive or neg with it other than about a 10 point drop in blood pressure, that was good, I dosed 3x3....
 
hard to say [stacking with other things]cissus/symmetry---I know about the new formula ---but I just orderd more and have purple pills instead of orange--whats up with that?
 
First, let me say it takes ballz for a company to actually START a thread like this. Second, my number 1 favorite supplement of ALL time is USP's CissusRx -- I honestly value it more than creatine, protein powder, or my multi-vitamin, because I just can't workout effectively anymore without the joint support that Cissus provides.
But the fact is, PowerFULL does nothing for me -- it might as well be a sugar pill. I ordered the original "buy 4, get 1 free" red cap Muira Puama stuff -- Lot #039467. I've always taken it on an empty stomach, usually stacked with my Cissus. I've tried 2 caps, 3 times a day; and 3 caps, twice a day. I've even tried mega-dosing (something like 9-12 caps -- I forget) right before working out and right before bed. And I've never felt anything at all. No pumps, no deep sleep, no vivid dreams, no libido increase, and certainly no strength or mass benefits. I'm definitely a TOTAL non-responder, but I've decided to just keep stacking it with my Cissus, simply to get rid of it.
So...
I won't be ordering anymore PowerFULL, but I'll never stop using Cissus. And my mind is still very open to other USP products. This thread only reassures me that USP is a good company that cares about its customers.
 
CNorris said:
So those of us who got the worse formula get a free bottle?
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There is not a bad formula just a non-responders. Honestly, I expected much much more..
 
It's like anything though, some say glutamine is worthless and **** i get good recovery, deep sleep and good pumps from it, also some ppl don't respond to creatine. So their ya go. And ya that looks very good on you USP for STARTING this thread, that's cool when a company really looks for customer feedback both negative and positive.
 
phasar said:
powerfull has the potential to cause gyno??
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To further clarify, powerfull aggravated my pre-existing gyno condition.

However, I was a responder to its effects.
 
If anyone want to send me there Powerfull or any other USP Labs products, be my guest ;).

I used 8 Powerfull Pre-Workout yesterday for legs day and hot damn. Legs day just got fun. The mind/muscle connection was amazing. I added an additional 5lbs on to deads and I absoloutely destroyed the squats, I love this stuff.
Cissus/Powerfull is amazing...
 
original was the muira puama,the new one is the cissus special extract correct?

the old forumula..NOTHING and i mean nothing synthetic or natural stands even comes close to the old form for boosting libido and sexual performance it is SURREAL!and old form does haev a positive effect on sleep as well.
new form.i believe it does have more potent anabolic properties and intend on using it for pct from here on out.however it does not have the sexual props of the first one.i have a bunch of bottles of the old on stashed away.and would like to still see it offered actually.
 
My bro gave me a bottle a few months back.....took the recomended dose and it didnt do anything out of the ordinary so i followed the rich mans stack dosing protocol and still got nothing. However, i did notice little sleep improvment even though i sleep very good as it is....this made it harder to get out of bed in the morning.

My diet/training is PERFECT( fla nutrition) so that wasnt it. Maybe i am too young to notice any real benefits that powerful is known for ...who knows. I dont realy respond to much of anything to be honest so i am sure it is just me.

stilll, USP kicks ass and props to them for brining unique products to the market.
 
juggernaut333 said:
original was the muira puama,the new one is the cissus special extract correct?
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I thought Symmetry was the special cissus extract.. Eh, I can't keep up and I should stop tryin'.. :p
 
I am also a non responder...Initially I thought it was cause I had my diet off (too much protein not enough carbs/fats) but after using it. I didn't see anything (benefits)...Nothing in sleep improvement, libido, strength, muscle increase...nada. I just figured I was a non-responder. Just figured I'd post.
 
seems pretty shady. not really responding to the posts much either. hiding something??? hmmm...btw, im not to thrilled about it im almost done with my bottle. Cissus is great tho'
 
I bought it in June. I believe it was the beta version, as the pills were purple and it was standardized for the active compound.

I took 2 caps 3x daily, at least 20 mins before each meal at the following times:

5:30 am
11:30 pm
9:30 pm

The first two doses were also taken with 2 caps of CissusRX

Side effects:
Chronic Diarhea-This started after a few days of taking it, and stopped two days after I stopped taking it.

Drowsiness

I wouldn't want to get up in the morning, and often oversleep.
After class, I'd fall asleep from 1pm to 5pm
Then I'd go to sleep at 10
 
bigpetefox said:
I thought Symmetry was the special cissus extract.. Eh, I can't keep up and I should stop tryin'.. :p
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BigPete,

Old PowerFULL: Muira Puama and Puresap
New PowerFULL: 1-Carboxy and Puresap
Symmetry: Specialized Cissus Extract
 
pistonpump said:
seems pretty shady. not really responding to the posts much either. hiding something??? hmmm...btw, im not to thrilled about it im almost done with my bottle. Cissus is great tho'
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Shady, Publicly asking for negative attention about a product is shady? WOW, I quess to stick with the supplement company montro. PowerFULL is the best supplement in the world and if you did not repsond well than YOU Must be doing something wrong. You prefer that approach?

Please support your thoughts, I appreciate a discussion rather than blanket statements.

This works both ways. The customer should also change it's train of thought because bashing and blanket statements do not lend to credibility but has become the norm when a product does not work. We dot not produce products in hopes that you do not respond, but we acknowledge non-responders. The customer should take responsibility when purchasing the product that it will work and WILL Not work.

Just my 2 cents.
 
well i accept that the product did not meet my expectations i'm sure it works was just hoping for more of a boost in the gym, libido, and pumps etc. Not sure if I have built a tolerance or what. It did work for a little while so maybe 10 caps a day are not enough....im 197lbs.

Although i said it seems shady because you failed to answer many questions posted in this thread, seems as if you are avioding them or maybe something else? Just what exactly are you trying to get out of this thread because there are non responders for any supp so what would you accomplish? Im sorry if im coming across as an a$$hole and I didnt mean to diss but thats the way i see it. And youre right I purchased the product to find out if it would work well for me and see good results with full knowledge that it might not. I know that. Im not complaining, its a hit or a miss with any supp.
 
pistonpump said:
well i accept that the product did not meet my expectations i'm sure it works was just hoping for more of a boost in the gym, libido, and pumps etc. Not sure if I have built a tolerance or what. It did work for a little while so maybe 10 caps a day are not enough....im 197lbs.

Although i said it seems shady because you failed to answer many questions posted in this thread, seems as if you are avioding them or maybe something else? Just what exactly are you trying to get out of this thread because there are non responders for any supp so what would you accomplish? Im sorry if im coming across as an a$$hole and I didnt mean to diss but thats the way i see it. And youre right I purchased the product to find out if it would work well for me and see good results with full knowledge that it might not. I know that. Im not complaining, its a hit or a miss with any supp.
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Thank you.

There is a purpose to this thread. I am letting play out before jumping to conclusions. We need to exert a bit of patience. I did not post this thread to avoid question. I posted the thread to answer questions.
 
?? The reviews others have posted and the recomendations of stacking PoweFull with NHA - are these on the previous formulas??

When was the change and why?
 
Non responder - Purchased bottled in May of 06. They were the purple pills. I didn't really notice any difference while taking powerfull except constant dirreaha. No libido boost, strength gain or pump. I was taking C2 and cAMP as well. I liked those products and felt they helped me, but was displeased with Powerfull. By the way, I'm 33 at 185lbs. Dosed at 6 pills a day (4 before workout, 2 at night) on empty stomach.
 
I'd also like to add that the Powerfull that I had results from were with the Muira Puama, not the new formula. I have not purchased the new formula.
 
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