any update, feel anything? I know that its still a lil early, but I'm gonna be starting mine tmrw and wanted to see if uv seen anything yet. I tried posting this on the another thread about a week ago but it got removed, so i edited it a little
Just came across your guys conversation and I'm in the same same situation. Bought my stuff from the same place two weeks ago without even questioning authenticity based on his feedback. Iv ran havoc before with good results if i can remember correctly( was over 3 maybe 4 years ago). Luckily I still have some left from then, don't know if they are any good but ill prob still use them.
To compare the two they are def different in a couple of ways- Bottle is slightly diff, font, label color and the caps are different(but i can not say for sure that the cap i had on the old one is the cap it came with) and my old bottle did have the white exp. sticker on the bottom. Also the picture that the seller uses is what my old one looks like not the one he sent me(its easy to tell by my how the "R" and the "P" look in RPN). As far as the pills go the casing is identical but the powder is not. Now i mind you that i am comparing to a 3+ year old bottle. For starters the powder in the new one is much more fine than the old and also has faint shiny specs in it. The taste and smell are also identical, hard to describe what they taste and smell like, i wouldn't say they taste bad, just not much of any taste to either one of them.
I don't plan on starting my cycle till next week, but will def continue to follow this thread and will add anything i find out. I feel the same way as both of you about the legitimacy of this. Its hard to say if its real and its hard to say if its fake, as of now I'm leaning more toward that it is real(slightly). And i guess the only way to find out if it is real is by using it. Sucks that it usually takes around 2 and 3 weeks to start to kick in.
And also to be fair when comparing, I really can't remember how my last cycle my old havoc went. It was my first ph i ran for cutting and all i remember was i did lose weight but as far as muscle/strength gain goes i have no clue. So i guess what i am trying to say is that I'm not sure if my old havoc was legit( if i can recall i bought it from a questionable source, and iv heard bad things from this source. The placebo affect can in some cases be a strong one.
I am crossing my fingers that this is the real deal. Hope to hear some good news mac, as you are the first one of us to dig into it.
