POLL: Designer Steroids: let's rate them
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somewhatgifted
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Ninjo said:
So did i but i ran it and had marginal success and it was the worst Ph cycle ive done, waste of time and money compared to what else is out there. My buddy did high dose masterdrol 30 mg and m1P and had minimal gains and fat gain. He later tried Annabolic extremes superdrol and is getting leaner with amazing strength gains and considerable size. I just havent heard alot of good feedback. Generic labs has some awesome product and has more dosage and pills per bottle, check em out. Some people might like masterdrol but the people i personnally spoke with about it said it sucked.
animalXXX
Member
I did a 20/30/30. I started out at 178 at about 12%BF and ended up at 193 probably around 10-11%BF. Not only that I didn't gain any fat but my girl was telling me that I look a lot leaner. I didn't get bloated, I actually looked drier. I had an overal good feeling, a lot stronger in the gym, i mean A LOT, and horny as hell. My balls didn't shrink... what else.... no back pumps... it was awsome.. best cycle i've ever done. So i don't understand why people are bashing Masterdrol. As far as I'm concerned it's awsome. However I can't say the same about Halodrol. I did a halodrol/orestan cycle and besides M1T this cycle gave me the most sides. Headaches, feeling like sh*t, no libido, gained fat and about 2 weeks into it my kidneys started hurting like a mofo even though i was drinking about 2 galls of water a day and taking my cycle support supps. So i had to come off. I didn't make me stronger, matter of fact it didn't do anything good for me at all. I don't understand what all the hype around it is for. Overall it was the sh*tiest cycle ever. At the end of the cycle i have actually lost some of the gains made from superdrol, from the previous cycle. So now i'm waiting on my body to recuperate from that crap and then i'm going to run another good ol Masterdrol cycle.
animalXXX
Member
However as much as I liked Superdrol, I am not going to run a 12 week cycle on it!! WTF??? Run an oral for 12 weeks??? Think about your liver bro, you'll still need it 20 years from now. You say that a lot of people run it and it's not going to kill you. Are you sure? See it's idiots like you that get this stuff banned... Why don't you run a test/deca cycle for 12 weeks?? It's a lot safer...
Ninjo
Well-known member
Thanks for all the great info Animal. If it's not any trouble, and you still have the bottle of MM kicking around, could you post the lot#/expiry date? I'm thinking that perhaps at some point there was a bad batch and that might account for some of the negative press on MM. Crossing my fingers that mine is the same lot as yours was! Thanks in advance.
Kristofer68SS
Well-known member
biotekguymba said:
could i have that spread sheet please/
animalXXX
Member
i got lot # 0624 expiring on 0/08. It will work bro. I know other people that have taken it too and it was a diff lot number as the packaging was a diff color too. But it worked just as good. Problem is that people expect a lot of growth from a 10/10/20 cycle. I don't condone abusing steroids, but i think that if you're going to do a cycle, then do it right. On the bottle of Masterdrol it says "take 2-3 daily" That's 20-30 mg. When i posted in a diff tread that a 20/30/30 is the way to go they cried out that it's too much. I think the manufacturer knows better. Anyways bro, do what you want. I am not saying that some people haven't had good results at 10mg as everyone is diff. There's a balance you have to reach, if you don't take enough or for enough time you might be robbing yourself of some nice gains, and if you take too much or for too long you might be shortening your life(liver problems). However diet is 80% of the results bro, so before you start it make sure that you're diet is right, that you are eating enough quality cals esspecially enough quality carbs and that you're eating above maintenace levels. By the way what are you're stats?
Ninjo
Well-known member
Thanks again Animal. Mine expires in August of 2007; can't find the bottle at the moment so I don't know the lot#. I'm not planning on running MM 'til November. I was thinking I'd run 3 weeks at 10/20/20 and see what kind of results I get. I'll have more than enough to run another cycle (even at higher dosages) a few months later.
My current stats are as follows:
Age: 36
Weight: 185
BF: 13%
Years experience: 10
My current stats are as follows:
Age: 36
Weight: 185
BF: 13%
Years experience: 10
mixedup
Well-known member
preston25 said:
Well real tren is generally found to be bad on endurance from all i've read. Strength is is great. but don't know for you if the good would overcome the bad. trn is methoxy not methyl but i still run milk thistle. PCT i like nolv I'm old school but DR D has very good PCT advise in the PCT forum
animalXXX
Member
are you going for a cut cycle?? Cuz that's what a zol/trn cycle is for. I guess zol it's really close to winstrol and TRN it's supposed to be close to trenbolone. I've ran the TRN/zol cycle with decent results, but not somthing impressive. Now my buddy, who doesn't really care about the legal aspect of it, ran the real gear. He looked like a freak at his show and won the whole show. Either way bro it seems like you've got a lot of reasearching to do before you start a cycle. Tren is awsome but it's some scary sh*t, like choking on the floor cause you can't breathe for few minutes after the shot. Just research all the drugs bro.
preston25
Member
All i do is research. I ve spent months doing this. But the problem is, is that everyone has different opinions or conflicting ones. Granted when it comes to the illegals, its pretty easy to find whats right. Im not a bodybuilder, but i do work out about 4hrs a day including cardio. Im an endurance athlete looking for ripped hard muscles, good strength gains, and low sides. I am cycling Igf-1lr3 with great results. I love the pumps. Albuterol is good stuff as well. Ive used both during consecutive 6 hr training rides.
preston25
Member
Ok, im finishing up week 4 on igf-1lr3 e3d. I have noticed an increase in appetite and pooping each week. Not to cofuse threads, but i want to start a stack for lean cuts with some added strength. I like what i here about zol. So heres what im thinking.
wk 1-5 zol rec dosage.
wk 1-5 activate, rebound xt, lower dosage
wk 6-10 igf-lr3
wk 6-10 actvate, rebound xt higher dosage
i do have exact dosage for above.
I want to start with something light, then see how i feel before i move on to something stronger. Im an endurance athlete looking for lean mass and ripped. I do a lot od cardio,5-20 hrs aweek.
wk 1-5 zol rec dosage.
wk 1-5 activate, rebound xt, lower dosage
wk 6-10 igf-lr3
wk 6-10 actvate, rebound xt higher dosage
i do have exact dosage for above.
I want to start with something light, then see how i feel before i move on to something stronger. Im an endurance athlete looking for lean mass and ripped. I do a lot od cardio,5-20 hrs aweek.
pistonpump
Banned
i liked pheraplex but have yet to use superdrol
UnicronSpawn
Active member
Sometimes I still will stack SD or PP with my injectable AAS, they seem to be in the same league as some of the tried and true AAS orals. Allthough I do think that D-bol is still better for mass and anadrol is still better for strength and size, I think SD and PP can have their place in the arsanal. Theres second tier orals that have perservered for years in athletes arsenals, I dont see why these new ones couldnt.
Irish Cannon
Legend
i agree with this. PP and SD, to me, are just as worthy as orals like dbol and drol.UnicronSpawn said:
pistonpump
Banned
UnicronSpawn said:
iron poodle
Banned
i loved h-drol. what would you say the best knock off is os the HALODROL-50. IM SAYEN: IM SAYEN EST HEMADROL. i would like to no because im gonna be buyen soon, just waiten to see what is a nice clone of h-50.
nat
New member
Hey guys,
I have been in the game for over 20 years. In the past I have used just about every steroid imaginable and can tell you hands down that Tren acetate is by far the best. I have been off the juice but have been trying everything that is legal now. I haven taken Methyl-Drol and in two week gained 18 lbs, granted alot of that is glycogen storage. But even so it was great to see the scale go up so rapidly. I also used Hal 5o clone, Mega H and Promag 25 and have to say its effects rival D-bol. This legal stuff is coming awful close to the real stuff.
As far as mega trn (Methoxy trienbolone) I have this to say. I was on Methyl Drol and Mega H for two weeks and I could not break the 230lb mark. I stopped the Methyl Drol and Mega H and started the Mega Trn as a stand alone to see if this product has any merit. So far after one week I weigh 234lbs and my strength is insane. The only other time I felt this kind of strength gains was when I was on actual Tren Acetate. I am not saying this stuff is as good as Tren Acetate but something is going on. I suppose this could be alot of thing going on with my body right now, like remaing effects of Methyl Drol and Mega H cycle, could also be placebo effect.
Either way the next week or so will give me a better indicator of how legit this Mega Trn is. One Last note, I am a straight shooter and have nothing to lie about.
But I will give you guys a straight honest answer within the next week or so of what kind of real/true results this mega trn gives. Final note I got so mad about not finding any true info on whether this stuff works or not I just decided to try it for myself. That ryansyn log is the best I could find, but next week I will make it easy for you guys who are interested in the true effects of a guro of sorts who has nothing to hide.
Check back in a week and find out what I think.
Peace guys!
I have been in the game for over 20 years. In the past I have used just about every steroid imaginable and can tell you hands down that Tren acetate is by far the best. I have been off the juice but have been trying everything that is legal now. I haven taken Methyl-Drol and in two week gained 18 lbs, granted alot of that is glycogen storage. But even so it was great to see the scale go up so rapidly. I also used Hal 5o clone, Mega H and Promag 25 and have to say its effects rival D-bol. This legal stuff is coming awful close to the real stuff.
As far as mega trn (Methoxy trienbolone) I have this to say. I was on Methyl Drol and Mega H for two weeks and I could not break the 230lb mark. I stopped the Methyl Drol and Mega H and started the Mega Trn as a stand alone to see if this product has any merit. So far after one week I weigh 234lbs and my strength is insane. The only other time I felt this kind of strength gains was when I was on actual Tren Acetate. I am not saying this stuff is as good as Tren Acetate but something is going on. I suppose this could be alot of thing going on with my body right now, like remaing effects of Methyl Drol and Mega H cycle, could also be placebo effect.
Either way the next week or so will give me a better indicator of how legit this Mega Trn is. One Last note, I am a straight shooter and have nothing to lie about.
But I will give you guys a straight honest answer within the next week or so of what kind of real/true results this mega trn gives. Final note I got so mad about not finding any true info on whether this stuff works or not I just decided to try it for myself. That ryansyn log is the best I could find, but next week I will make it easy for you guys who are interested in the true effects of a guro of sorts who has nothing to hide.
Check back in a week and find out what I think.
Peace guys!
nat
New member
Quick Update
Todays is monday and I lifted legs.
A couple of notes so far.
My weight went down one pound and I have been eating alot of good solid food. It seems that mega trn really helps lean you up and has a hardening effect. Not sure quit yet.
One definite note. I am mad at the world. I feel depressed and very angry. I have no patience and I am very moody.
I day in the gym was good. My felt like I couldnt be stopped on the squats. Everything seemed really light. One other note after squats I had some back cramps, but i sometimes get them anyway when I squat but I could feel it a little more than normal.
I cant say anything definite about mega trn yet, but after chest day I will have a good indicator. After many years of training I realized that I can determine the best effectiveness of a supplement when I bench. So I will be keeping you guys informed.
So far so good!
Peace!
Todays is monday and I lifted legs.
A couple of notes so far.
My weight went down one pound and I have been eating alot of good solid food. It seems that mega trn really helps lean you up and has a hardening effect. Not sure quit yet.
One definite note. I am mad at the world. I feel depressed and very angry. I have no patience and I am very moody.
I day in the gym was good. My felt like I couldnt be stopped on the squats. Everything seemed really light. One other note after squats I had some back cramps, but i sometimes get them anyway when I squat but I could feel it a little more than normal.
I cant say anything definite about mega trn yet, but after chest day I will have a good indicator. After many years of training I realized that I can determine the best effectiveness of a supplement when I bench. So I will be keeping you guys informed.
So far so good!
Peace!
nat
New member
Mega Trn First Conclusions
Today is day 10 on Mega Trn.
I have been taking 3 pills a day spread through out the day.
Morning, afternoon, and evening for a total of 6 grms.
Lets see, were do I begin.
Ten days ago I finshed Methyl drol and Mega H and ended at 228lbs and my bench was 365 for eight reps.
One important note. After being in the game for so long I can best monitor how effective supplements are with my bench press. I use very strict form, with a very slow and fluent motion. This makes sure that I am no cheating by jerking or bouncing and it assures that I can monitor my pure strength gains. I cant do this with squats or any other lift because so
many other factors are included such as feeling and intensity.
So with that being said this is what Mega Trn did ten days after Methyl Drol and Mega H, with that cycle ending in a bench press of 365 for 8 reps.
Today is Tuesday and I just got done with Chest day. My weight went down two pounds but I am harder and leaner than ever without any cardio. My lifts were insane. I couldnt be stopped in the gym. I hoped to pass the 365 for 8 reps but after putting in 315 lbs it seemed like 225 to me so I decided to try 405 and see what would happened.
Results: I benced 405 for eights reps and I felt like I could of did more. My strength was insane. The rest of my workout was crazy also, I literally felt like I couldnt be stopped.
My first impressions is this stuff rivals real Tren Acetate. Ten years ago I was on Tren and Test and everything else and my best bench was 405 for 13 reps. After only tens days on Mega Trn I am at 405 for eight.
So you guys can draw your own conclusions. All the above is what happened, no lying, no messing with you guys. Just true results.
The only negative sides on this stuff is that I am really angry and depressed. And make sure you take some potassium because cramps become a factor.
If you guys have any questions just let me know
So after ten days I am convinced unless somebody else can explain were these strength gains came from.
There is no way you can get these results from a placebo effect. I been training to long and I know the difference. There is something going on with this stuff and whoever says something else is lying because they dont want you take it, they want it for themselves.
One last note. I know that these compounds work differently on different people so take that with a grain of salt. Back in my steroid day (over ten years ago) I found Tren Acetate to be my drug of choice so maybe that is why these results are so dramatic for me.
I am a straight shooter, no bull kind of guy. I am just doing this to help some you who may have questions about getting ripped off with this stuff. It worked for me in ten days and I am sure it will work for you. Just remember I have only been on it for ten days so I will continue to keep you guys updated.
Right now I am pumped that I found something that works like this.
Oh I only get my blood test down every 3 months and I do it after three weeks of PCT and trying to get everything back to normal. I let you know how that goes to.
PEACE
Today is day 10 on Mega Trn.
I have been taking 3 pills a day spread through out the day.
Morning, afternoon, and evening for a total of 6 grms.
Lets see, were do I begin.
Ten days ago I finshed Methyl drol and Mega H and ended at 228lbs and my bench was 365 for eight reps.
One important note. After being in the game for so long I can best monitor how effective supplements are with my bench press. I use very strict form, with a very slow and fluent motion. This makes sure that I am no cheating by jerking or bouncing and it assures that I can monitor my pure strength gains. I cant do this with squats or any other lift because so
many other factors are included such as feeling and intensity.
So with that being said this is what Mega Trn did ten days after Methyl Drol and Mega H, with that cycle ending in a bench press of 365 for 8 reps.
Today is Tuesday and I just got done with Chest day. My weight went down two pounds but I am harder and leaner than ever without any cardio. My lifts were insane. I couldnt be stopped in the gym. I hoped to pass the 365 for 8 reps but after putting in 315 lbs it seemed like 225 to me so I decided to try 405 and see what would happened.
Results: I benced 405 for eights reps and I felt like I could of did more. My strength was insane. The rest of my workout was crazy also, I literally felt like I couldnt be stopped.
My first impressions is this stuff rivals real Tren Acetate. Ten years ago I was on Tren and Test and everything else and my best bench was 405 for 13 reps. After only tens days on Mega Trn I am at 405 for eight.
So you guys can draw your own conclusions. All the above is what happened, no lying, no messing with you guys. Just true results.
The only negative sides on this stuff is that I am really angry and depressed. And make sure you take some potassium because cramps become a factor.
If you guys have any questions just let me know
So after ten days I am convinced unless somebody else can explain were these strength gains came from.
There is no way you can get these results from a placebo effect. I been training to long and I know the difference. There is something going on with this stuff and whoever says something else is lying because they dont want you take it, they want it for themselves.
One last note. I know that these compounds work differently on different people so take that with a grain of salt. Back in my steroid day (over ten years ago) I found Tren Acetate to be my drug of choice so maybe that is why these results are so dramatic for me.
I am a straight shooter, no bull kind of guy. I am just doing this to help some you who may have questions about getting ripped off with this stuff. It worked for me in ten days and I am sure it will work for you. Just remember I have only been on it for ten days so I will continue to keep you guys updated.
Right now I am pumped that I found something that works like this.
Oh I only get my blood test down every 3 months and I do it after three weeks of PCT and trying to get everything back to normal. I let you know how that goes to.
PEACE
nat
New member
Hey Guys
I moved this topic to supplement review section under MEGA TRN results. I keep cutting and pasting to put it over hear so from now on just go check it out at the other thread.
here is wednesdays report.
Well DAY 11 on MEGA TRN
I took today off because my weight was dropping and I was really sore from mondays leg workout and tuesdays chest workout. Felt a bit feverish last night. Just started to feel like crapp so I decided to take Wedneday off. Could of been several things, so I am not blaming it on Mega Trn.
Normally I lift as follows:
Mon- Legs
Tues- Chest
Wed- Back
Thur- Shoulders
Fri- Arms
Sat/Sun off
I dont want to start a topic about lifitng schedule. I been doing this for over twenty years and that is what works best for me.
But on Mega Trn, like I said before I had to take Wednesday off because I was sore and loosing some weight.
So some thoughts on the cycle.
I think monday and tuesdays workouts helped me pass some lifting plateaus. I havent lifted that kind of weight on squats or bench in over 2 years.
So my first thought is that sense I stopped taking Methyl Drol some of glycogen that was so successfully stored up has been used up from the intense lifting while on Mega Trn. Hints why my weight is dropping.
Just a reminder. I ended the methyl drol/mega h cycle at 228 pounds. Than 2 days after dropping the drol and h I then started the Mega Trn and went up to 234 pounds in about a week. Now on the 11 day of Mega Trn I am at 225, but I really hardened up quit a bit.
So my conclusion is possibly that the Mega Trn helped me to push my muslces to a new level, in doing that I tapped out alot of glycogen from my muscles hints why the weight loss is so dramatic.
Today is Wednesday so I am going to try to recover and carb up a bit and see if I can move the scale a bit.
Nothing negative really to report, just the fact the two previous workouts on Mega Trn took me to whole new level and I am for sure feeling the effects of some awesome workouts on mon and tues.
I will keep you guys posted.
The boys are still hanging in there. No shut down yet.
PEACE
I moved this topic to supplement review section under MEGA TRN results. I keep cutting and pasting to put it over hear so from now on just go check it out at the other thread.
here is wednesdays report.
Well DAY 11 on MEGA TRN
I took today off because my weight was dropping and I was really sore from mondays leg workout and tuesdays chest workout. Felt a bit feverish last night. Just started to feel like crapp so I decided to take Wedneday off. Could of been several things, so I am not blaming it on Mega Trn.
Normally I lift as follows:
Mon- Legs
Tues- Chest
Wed- Back
Thur- Shoulders
Fri- Arms
Sat/Sun off
I dont want to start a topic about lifitng schedule. I been doing this for over twenty years and that is what works best for me.
But on Mega Trn, like I said before I had to take Wednesday off because I was sore and loosing some weight.
So some thoughts on the cycle.
I think monday and tuesdays workouts helped me pass some lifting plateaus. I havent lifted that kind of weight on squats or bench in over 2 years.
So my first thought is that sense I stopped taking Methyl Drol some of glycogen that was so successfully stored up has been used up from the intense lifting while on Mega Trn. Hints why my weight is dropping.
Just a reminder. I ended the methyl drol/mega h cycle at 228 pounds. Than 2 days after dropping the drol and h I then started the Mega Trn and went up to 234 pounds in about a week. Now on the 11 day of Mega Trn I am at 225, but I really hardened up quit a bit.
So my conclusion is possibly that the Mega Trn helped me to push my muslces to a new level, in doing that I tapped out alot of glycogen from my muscles hints why the weight loss is so dramatic.
Today is Wednesday so I am going to try to recover and carb up a bit and see if I can move the scale a bit.
Nothing negative really to report, just the fact the two previous workouts on Mega Trn took me to whole new level and I am for sure feeling the effects of some awesome workouts on mon and tues.
I will keep you guys posted.
The boys are still hanging in there. No shut down yet.
PEACE
bLacKjAck.
Lift Heavy
Sdrol was great to me, but I liked PP better --- lots more weight gain.
Weird, but I had no sides with Sdrol.
Weird, but I had no sides with Sdrol.
Ninjo
Well-known member
When you say no sides, do you mean that you had bloodwork done and your lipids came out fine post cycle? You may feel okay and still be really messed up inside if you know what I mean.
btw did you use genuine AX SD or a knock-off?
Dark_Warrior
New member
I voted superdrol. I'm doing a pp/sd stack. Superdrol, only sides is back pumps at 20mg, not even that bad. Strength has been amazing.