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Pmag or Hdrol??

mw1 said:
Pmag kicks in a little faster than hdrol, as well as giveing a little more size.
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I am always clean bulking/recomping never cut. Haladrol seems to get better reviews, what type of lbs gain can i expect from each compound from 6 week cycle if training diet are in check going up to doseage of 75mg+? Thanks.
 
I posted this in my pmag log

"Since I have only ran Hdrol and that seems to be the PH that everyone compares Pmag to, I'll give you my comparison on both...

-I felt a lot more shutdown on my Hdrol cycle
-Had testicular discomfort with Hdrol and not with Pmag
-Did not have the "on" feeling with Hdrol that I had with Pmag
-Put on size with both but more with Pmag...that may be do to having a better idea what I was doing
-No shedding with Hdrol but I did notice quite a bit of shedding with Pmag
-No acne with Hdrol but noticed an increase with Pmag both face and back/arms
-BP was up a bit more than when I ran Hdrol

I loved Hdrol but Pmag is just where its at for me. If you had a good Hdrol run, you should def look into Pmag I dont think you will regret it...nice easy cycle for some nice gains."


Pmag is definitely my favorite of the 2 by far...just my thoughts on it.
 
matt352 said:
I posted this in my pmag log

"Since I have only ran Hdrol and that seems to be the PH that everyone compares Pmag to, I'll give you my comparison on both...

-I felt a lot more shutdown on my Hdrol cycle
-Had testicular discomfort with Hdrol and not with Pmag
-Did not have the "on" feeling with Hdrol that I had with Pmag
-Put on size with both but more with Pmag...that may be do to having a better idea what I was doing
-No shedding with Hdrol but I did notice quite a bit of shedding with Pmag
-No acne with Hdrol but noticed an increase with Pmag both face and back/arms
-BP was up a bit more than when I ran Hdrol

I loved Hdrol but Pmag is just where its at for me. If you had a good Hdrol run, you should def look into Pmag I dont think you will regret it...nice easy cycle for some nice gains."


Pmag is definitely my favorite of the 2 by far...just my thoughts on it.
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Thanks Matt, is there anything else you can share from your exp with the compound that may hvebeen of interest? e,g strength from both, water retention etc. Thanks
 
xx Zues xx said:
Thanks Matt, is there anything else you can share from your exp with the compound that may hvebeen of interest? e,g strength from both, water retention etc. Thanks
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Def more strength from pmag. Both compounds were very dry but Hdrol wins if you are looking for dryness/hardness. Muscles were much harder on Hdrol, but overall strength/size/mass were way better with pmag. Also, more shedding with pmag. I didn't notice any shedding at all with Hdrol but I did with pmag. Dont know if i mentioned that above. Let me know if you have any other questions.
 
I did a ton a of research comparing the two before making the decision to run with P-mag stacked with M1, 4ADD for my next bulking cycle. I am a big fan of h-drol but from everything I have read, P-mag is what I decided to go with. I like the fact that you gain a little bit more size and strength from it. I will use H-drol stacked with Furazadrol a few months after I finish my bulk cylce to recomp.
 
matt352 said:
nah didnt use anything...it wasnt like a huge deal just noticed it before i got showered and stuff, stops after the cycle
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did you actually see your hairline recede? or just saw extra in the shower and thats it, as in you still look totally normal?
 
P-mag (h-roid, Promagnon) is BY far my most favorite supp...ever. It doesnt give the most strength or size or pump, but the balance between all three is perfect. I am not overly agressive, somewhat euphoric at times. It moderatly anti-estrogenic, not overly androgenic. The pumps are plenty huge (not the biggest) I absolutly love it. Hdrol however, I feel a bit lethargic, even when I cut the dosage I dont feel that happy. BUt I do seem to get slightly better results with hdrol.

Ive tried literally EVERY prohormone (and roid) made over the years (not bragging just stating my knowledge base).
The guy above was going to stack with m1,4 add, Ive tried this in the past and liked it. M 14 add is also a favorite of mine, the bloat is a little much for me. Thought is reduced with P-mag. The strenght gain is very impressive. Even though M1,4ADD is well known for decent strength gain, I feel its under rated still. For me the strength gains with m1,4add are very substantial (the combo of M14add and p-mag is massive for me).

I will be trying d-plex and M14add also. I loved the M1,4add and
Methyl 5aa a few years back, it was another personal favorite. I would use the 5aa mainly as a 1/2 hour preworkout dosage of 20mg (with 5-10mg
M1,4add). 5mg M 5aa in the morning with 15-20 mg m14add. Then 1 more M14add after training, no more M5aa. I like the methyl oral timing method rather than constant bombardment...not because its works better, just that my liver has alot of miles and I get great gains using this timing method.

I Will probably use D-plex in the same way, just a higher dosage.
 
matt352 said:
Def more strength from pmag. Both compounds were very dry but Hdrol wins if you are looking for dryness/hardness. Muscles were much harder on Hdrol, but overall strength/size/mass were way better with pmag. Also, more shedding with pmag. I didn't notice any shedding at all with Hdrol but I did with pmag. Dont know if i mentioned that above. Let me know if you have any other questions.
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Any idea of the half life matt? Like how far between each dose? Thanks
 
xx Zues xx said:
i am looking to increase vascularity will Pmag help with this??
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I got decent vascularity with Pmag (actually it was H-roid from another company, myfavorite was promagnon though), not like freaky equipoise or trenbolone vascularity, but moderate. I notice when I eat 6-12 egg white and 3-4 yolks perday I seem to have more vascularity....I think it has something to do with the Albumin...dont quote me on that though.

I may have gotten better vascularity from H-drol though. Being that its in the boldenone family may be the reason. I also ran 10-15mg higher than the P-mag due to the fact that its less androgenic than p-mag, so that likely increased the vascularity as well.
 
brownchoclit said:
hey brah..what are opinions on pmag/epi stack?? thanks..

brown
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Having tried this stack, i liked it. They seem to have similar effects. I mainly used the epi as a morning and pre-work out androgen boost (even though its not super androgenic). To be honest though I liked 10-15 mgs of superdrol 1 hr pre workout with my p-mag. The superdrol gives me an unstoppable strength workout (p-mag alone gives me a pretty good one too), then the rest of the day I let the anabolic p-mag repair me (once or twice a week...after an extra hard workout or Double day, I throw in 10-15mgs of dbol/m14add post workout.)

I think p-mag is 50% as androgenic and 50% anabolic as methyl test mg for mg. as where Dbol is like 30% as androgenic and 90% anabolic. I think H-drol is 20-110% or something...again, please dont quote me on those numbers, im going off of memmory.
Its hard for me to give results because I dont keep diligent records, plus i usually De-train for a couple weeks before I start cycle, so the results are slightly exagerated with me. But the mirror doesnt lie. Epi/pmag AND epi/Hdrol kept me sharp looking, full and cut. I loved it. I would think that epi may go better with a higher anabolic like h-drol rather than p-mag since pmag and epi are semi-similar in action (meaning higher androgenic to anabolic ratio). But thats just me.

Pmag seems to have cortisone type activity (I guess h-drol does too, and probably even more so being that its boldenone family), I mean I feel zero joint paint...and I have pretty serious pain off cycle. Cant feel pain during lifts either, it makes you want to keep forcing out rep after rep....its hard to explain. but I minorly tore my anterior deltoid because of this.
 
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