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Planning to Start 2nd Cycle, any advice??

jamalgq

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Hey guys, its been a while since I've been on the board but it is that time of the season again where I'm looking to really bulk up heavy this year ( who isn't though right?). Real quick.. I'm 5'9(almost) and about 198-200lbs around 13% BF. Last year I went up to 205 and a little under 10% BF. Im looking to surpass this by spring. Last year I was def novice about the whole thing and just did 8 weeks of test 250 @ 2 cc's a week. I stopped because I thought that gyno might have been starting but I had no one to ask really. SO I have been doing my hmwk and this is what I have now. I have test 250 again and I also got deca because I remember being told about stacking them. I'm not sure how long to run this or how to really set it all up because I have no exp with deca. I'm def ready for pct this time though with plenty of nolva on hand as well as other things, and I have my liver pretty much covered. Just not to sure about the correct "dosages" should i run one nice one and then a short one later or will i have enough time to run two really nice cycles before spring/ summer and still cut?? Any help here would be appreciated, if your gonna bash then please just move on.
 
hopefully someone can help me out here I would like to start soon as I have everything I need.


Glenihan,, if you read this would you be able to give me a hand. You REALLY helped me last winter , thanks
 
weeks 1-14
testenan 500mg/wk
weeks 1-13
deca 400mg/wk

PCT starts 2 weeks after last enan shot. nolva will suffice for PCT but if you can swing it, rebound xt will make you happy as well.

if gyno pops up during cycle, start nolva at 60mgs every day til it subsides then back it off to 20mgs. also, rebound works like a champ against gyno too. mine was gone if 5 days.
 
goldylight said:
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No problem there!! I'm already eating like a horse. I basically dedicated all my energy towards this. I'm so obsessed at counting every calorie , eating that lovely cottage cheese before bed, and setting an alarm to wake up early just to have a shake then breakfast an hour later. I'm trying to stay in a positive nitrogen state so my body is constantly "anabolic" to grow.

This may also sound stupid but the dumbest question is the one not asked (especially when its going in your body) .. I have experience with test and thats it, you say 500 of test per week so thats gonna be 2 cc's say...every monday morning and thursday night ( does that sound ok?) and 400 of the deca. Now is that gonna be one cc to = the 400 needed or will i also require the 2 cc's a week as well to = 400. (personally I thought one cc of deca had 400 in it but im asking to make sure) . And finally ( I think) what would be an ideal injection schedule because Im still weary on that.. thanks for the help.. you guys rock. Oh yeah last time I was only doing the test and it was every 4 days and i alternated glutes for injection sites.. is that gonna be ok too?? some people tell me to go glute, glute, shoulder, shoulder repeat. But I thought you always wanted to inject it into the ass because it usually carries the most fat?
 
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Shoot E3D..that's good for Enanthate and Decanoate. (pretty much like monday, thursday..but more "balanced") Plus, you should know the concentration of your Deca.. it's not all standardized.. it varies... you don't have it labelled?

What does the fat in your ass have to do with rotation, or pinning, other than the length of your needle? You should rotate sites to lessen scar tissue buildup, and overall comfort. If you shoot E3D, you can rotate between your glutes and quads, as they can easily take 2cc's (1cc Test E at 250mg/ml, and 1cc Deca at 200mg/ml).. delts can take some time to work up volume, but if you feel you're ready, your glute/delt rotation is fine.

good luck.
 
Id suggest prop to end, but thats just me.

Maybe 1-10: test enanth
10 1/2-14 test prop:
1-13: Deca

Thats what id do just so ur lhormone levels dont go down the shitter with the enanth.
 
eh, i don't like the looks of that. IMO, if you're going to close with prop, you'd do it this way:

weeks 1-14
testenan 500mg/wk
weeks 1-13
deca 400mg/wk
weeks 15-17
testprop 150mg/EOD

smooth transition in PCT with minimal nandrolone leftovers. PCT, in that case, would start day after last prop shot. that's what i'd do anyway......if i were to do such things......
 
3clipseGT said:
Id suggest prop to end, but thats just me.

Maybe 1-10: test enanth
10 1/2-14 test prop:
1-13: Deca

Thats what id do just so ur lhormone levels dont go down the shitter with the enanth.
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Eclipse,
If you were to do that with Test Prop as a closeout, then you should run:
1-14 Testosterone Enanthate
1-13 Nandrolone Decanoate
15-16 Testosterone Propionate

It makes much more sense that way. :D

I don't see why you have ran Deca longer than your Test Enan. Deca is one of the compounds you want to wait out with the prop if you're going to do it like that.

Good luck with whatever you choose Jamal :)
 
Ubiquitous said:
Eclipse,
If you were to do that with Test Prop as a closeout, then you should run:
1-14 Testosterone Enanthate
1-13 Nandrolone Decanoate
15-16 Testosterone Propionate

It makes much more sense that way. :D

I don't see why you have ran Deca longer than your Test Enan. Deca is one of the compounds you want to wait out with the prop if you're going to do it like that.

Good luck with whatever you choose Jamal :)
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Yea you guys do have a point. Idk i just figured that since test is essentially test, why not run the deca a little longer to get the full effects ya know? Also i agree with the idea on prop.

Very good ideas from very intelligent guys here.

I may do the same cycle tho, but im at about 200lbs right now so im gonna start out at 500mgs test enanth and then probly bump it up to 750 mgs test about week 8 or so. Run the test till week 10, bring in prop and run that till about week 15 or so. :-D i cant wait!
 
thanks for the other suggestions guys!! I think that I'm gonna stick with plan A, For some reason I just feel more comfortable with it.

Good luck on your cycle eclipse!!
 
jamalgq said:
thanks for the other suggestions guys!! I think that I'm gonna stick with plan A, For some reason I just feel more comfortable with it.

Good luck on your cycle eclipse!!
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Thanks bro, good luck to you too!
 
jamalgq said:
thanks for the other suggestions guys!! I think that I'm gonna stick with plan A, For some reason I just feel more comfortable with it.

Good luck on your cycle eclipse!!
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i agree. whoever wrote plan A is a f'ing genius. :yawn:
 
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