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TrainTilUDrop
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DR.D said:
Great info, thanks Dr. D.
Also I have a 50mL vial that I will use over the course of 10-12 weeks. Can I continue to poke that vial (I am running EOD injections of t. prop.) throughout the 10-12 weeks or does it need to be filtered to another vial?
DR.D
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TrainTilUDrop said:
I usually do, unless the stopper starts to break up or I'll have leftovers after the cycle that need to be stored still. That's one of the reasons I like alcohol best. A little alcohol will penetrate the holes better and evaporate before next time. Also, try to not go dead center everytime. Slightly alternate the point you insert the needle from one time to the next.
GrossSizeRocks
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Careful, guys, you start talking about rotating injection sites on the damn vials too and I'll start thinking of more questions!
With that unbearably humorous slap at my sorryass-newbie-self aside, I do have another question:
Everyone seems to agree a shot takes one syringe and two needles, one to draw and one to inject, and
everyone also seems to agree to combine two substances into the same shot if your cycle has you running two, so
how does that work out?
Do you use the same drawing needle for both draws or change and use two different ones when you are creating a 2 substance "cocktail?" Do you simply repeat all the common sense sterility procedures mentioned in several posts here, or is there more to it than that?
And, it was stated that a draw begins with sucking an amount of air into your syringe that will equal the cc's of substance you are about to draw, injecting this air into the vial, and only then drawing the substance into your syringe.
That's fine for substance #1, but how do you do that for drawing substance #2 when one or two precious cc's of #1 is already in the syringe?
Should you shake or in other ways try to mix the two substances in the syringe PRE-injection, or does it not matter if the two go in you as two unmixed substances, one on top of the other, from the same injection?
With that unbearably humorous slap at my sorryass-newbie-self aside, I do have another question:
Everyone seems to agree a shot takes one syringe and two needles, one to draw and one to inject, and
everyone also seems to agree to combine two substances into the same shot if your cycle has you running two, so
how does that work out?
Do you use the same drawing needle for both draws or change and use two different ones when you are creating a 2 substance "cocktail?" Do you simply repeat all the common sense sterility procedures mentioned in several posts here, or is there more to it than that?
And, it was stated that a draw begins with sucking an amount of air into your syringe that will equal the cc's of substance you are about to draw, injecting this air into the vial, and only then drawing the substance into your syringe.
That's fine for substance #1, but how do you do that for drawing substance #2 when one or two precious cc's of #1 is already in the syringe?
Should you shake or in other ways try to mix the two substances in the syringe PRE-injection, or does it not matter if the two go in you as two unmixed substances, one on top of the other, from the same injection?
g4ud1n
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What I do for combining two hormones into one syringe is this:
If I am pulling 1cc of lets say, Test E, I will shoot 2 cc's of air into the vial, then pull the 1cc of the hormone in the syringe. I then switch to the other vial of the other hormone and pull 1cc out of it. The Next shot I do I will alternate which vial I draw from first. You don't need to switch needles to draw with, just switch to a new one when you are ready to inject.
If I am pulling 1cc of lets say, Test E, I will shoot 2 cc's of air into the vial, then pull the 1cc of the hormone in the syringe. I then switch to the other vial of the other hormone and pull 1cc out of it. The Next shot I do I will alternate which vial I draw from first. You don't need to switch needles to draw with, just switch to a new one when you are ready to inject.
Ubiquitous
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in regards to using two compounds in the same syringe.. What I do is draw air into the syringe at the dose I want for compound #1, stick the needle in the vial after swabbing, push the air in, and draw the oil up to the desired mark..
now, I pull the needle out, turn it upside down and draw air to represent the next desired dosage for compound #2, plus a little more..
then I take the compound #2 vial and turn it upside down and stick the needle in like that (upside down, so the air is at the luer lock tip) then I push the air into compound #2's vial, almost to the point that the compound #1's oil reaches the luer lock tip (almost to the needle)...
now I can turn the vial and syringe rightside up so I can draw to the desired marking (taking into account compound #1's marking plus compound #2's) and that should be that.
If I have to use 3cc's worth of compounds, then I use my 5cc syringes to allow "breathing room" when drawing, and aspiration room for injecting. Obviously I have to use these for anything 3cc and over.
Sometimes if it is different oils or brands you will see separation in the barrel of the syringe, but that doesn't matter.. oil is oil is oil.
good luck.. it's good to ask questions.. that's how you learn ****.... otherwise you have to go by trial and error like I did..
now, I pull the needle out, turn it upside down and draw air to represent the next desired dosage for compound #2, plus a little more..
then I take the compound #2 vial and turn it upside down and stick the needle in like that (upside down, so the air is at the luer lock tip) then I push the air into compound #2's vial, almost to the point that the compound #1's oil reaches the luer lock tip (almost to the needle)...
now I can turn the vial and syringe rightside up so I can draw to the desired marking (taking into account compound #1's marking plus compound #2's) and that should be that.
If I have to use 3cc's worth of compounds, then I use my 5cc syringes to allow "breathing room" when drawing, and aspiration room for injecting. Obviously I have to use these for anything 3cc and over.
Sometimes if it is different oils or brands you will see separation in the barrel of the syringe, but that doesn't matter.. oil is oil is oil.
good luck.. it's good to ask questions.. that's how you learn ****.... otherwise you have to go by trial and error like I did..
Gary46080
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GrossSizeRocks said:
When drawing from two vials you can use the same needle to draw from each. As long as you've wiped down the tops with alcohol swabs there shouldn't be any problems with this.
GrossSizeRocks said:
Once you have the first substance in your syringe, you can pull back another cc of air while keeping the first substance in the syringe. Then inject that cc of air into the 2nd vial as you did the first time being sure to stop just before the substance already in the vial reaches the needle.
GrossSizeRocks said:
It shouldn't make any difference, the only thing to be sure of is that all air bubbles are out of the syringe but other than that no need to shake and try to mix the oils.
Ubiquitous
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whoah.. is there like.... an echo in here?
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