Phera at 10 mg a day?

Sub7

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I have heard some people report unpleasant sides with Phera Plex at 30 mg a day. Since Epi is pretty low in sides, how does it sound to combine 30 mg Epi and 10 mg Phera per day? (or 30 Epi + 15 Phera)?
 
What sides are you worried about?

The only side I get with Phera at 30mg is an occasional back/kidney ache if I dont drink enough water.

I rather like the bloat it causes, seems to be friendly on my joints and tendons.

Stane dried me out way too much, my elbows, shoulders and knees felt like they had sandpaper in them.

If anything I would run 30mg Phera, 10mg Epi.
 
If you havnt tried out either to know the sides on yourself, then dont stack them if your worried. You will make good gains on either solo.
 
I can feel the fatigue on 10mg phera during hard conditioning. 20mg i can feel it just walking far distances...
 
Everyone reacts different to ph/ds.. Your just going to have to self evaluate yourself. Like I said, I have had 0 lethargy on phera plex or superdrol, even at higher dosages, yet a lot of people report that they have.
 
just to make sure my question is not misunderstood: I am not asking whether I will feel sides from 10 mg of Phera. All I am asking is whether people think 10 mg of Phera will do much in the way of muscle building (stacked with 30 mg of Epi or with something else)
 
Yes 10mg phera on top of 30mg epi will make a difference. The big gains started when i bumped to 20mg when i ran it solo. The lethargy i got at 10mg most people wouldnt even notice. Normal cardio was totally fine, but there was a wall when i really tried to push myself. Other than that no sides at 10.
 
exactly what I wanted to find out, thank Smiley

any more feedback on adding 10 mg of Phera to a stack?
 
I wonder if the lethargy people are talking about is the water retention and increased BP making it harder on your heart to move your blood around.

Or do you feel actually 'run down' when not doing exercise?

I did notice that cardio was somewhat more difficult, like I had a harder time with my wind.
 
FrankJ said:
I wonder if the lethargy people are talking about is the water retention and increased BP making it harder on your heart to move your blood around.

Or do you feel actually 'run down' when not doing exercise?

I did notice that cardio was somewhat more difficult, like I had a harder time with my wind.
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BP was uneffected (always under 130) and i retained zero water. If anything i shed water.
 
I just started a cycle of pplex and I just went ahead and started right off with 30mg. The main reason is because I have the 15mg CEL so it was between 15mg and 30mg.
 
i am curious why so many people experienced with 10 mg of Superdrol -either alone or in combination with other steroids- but did not do the same experiment with pheraplex. I know superdrol is stronger and more likely to produce effects at a low dose, but not phera isn't exactly weak either... but maybe due to the fact that phera takes a while to kick in?
 
Sub7 said:
i am curious why so many people experienced with 10 mg of Superdrol -either alone or in combination with other steroids- but did not do the same experiment with pheraplex. I know superdrol is stronger and more likely to produce effects at a low dose, but not phera isn't exactly weak either... but maybe due to the fact that phera takes a while to kick in?
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phera took just as long to kick in as epi and stuff. superdrol can perform better than pplex at half the dose. i went up to 40mg on pplex and might have had SLIGHT sides from that. just run your cycle, and adjust the dosage to how your reacting.
 
Sub7 said:
i am curious why so many people experienced with 10 mg of Superdrol -either alone or in combination with other steroids- but did not do the same experiment with pheraplex. I know superdrol is stronger and more likely to produce effects at a low dose, but not phera isn't exactly weak either... but maybe due to the fact that phera takes a while to kick in?
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I think its just because people get a lot more sides with super so they try low dose to still get benefits. Phera is easy for most people to run at 20-30.
 
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