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PH sides and learning how to combat them.

TonyGunsling

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So i have been on a wild hunt to learn of side affects that may occur during a PH cycle, and maybe it can be found inside of a thread but Ive had no such luck.

Specifically: I am looking to learn about side affects one could experience taking HALODROL, and how one might realize the sides and how to combat them.

But: i feel this thread can be used for all other PHs and the sides associated with them.
 
TonyGunsling said:
So i have been on a wild hunt to learn of side affects that may occur during a PH cycle, and maybe it can be found inside of a thread but Ive had no such luck. Specifically: I am looking to learn about side affects one could experience taking HALODROL, and how one might realize the sides and how to combat them. But: i feel this thread can be used for all other PHs and the sides associated with them.
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Every side effect you have seen with AAS can occur with PHs, simply because most actually are steroids, not PHs.

The main ones are: lethargy, loss of libido, joint pain, insomnia, bad lipid profile (low good cholesterol, elevated bad cholesterol), liver damage up to and including cholestasis, heart disease, hair loss, abnormal hair growth, infertility.
 
srblan said:
Every side effect you have seen with AAS can occur with PHs, simply because most actually are steroids, not PHs.

The main ones are: lethargy, loss of libido, joint pain, insomnia, bad lipid profile (low good cholesterol, elevated bad cholesterol), liver damage up to and including cholestasis, heart disease, hair loss, abnormal hair growth, infertility.
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This^^^
CEL Cycle Assist is the best product on the market to combat the most common sides
 
srblan said:
Every side effect you have seen with AAS can occur with PHs, simply because most actually are steroids, not PHs. The main ones are: lethargy, loss of libido, joint pain, insomnia, bad lipid profile (low good cholesterol, elevated bad cholesterol), liver damage up to and including cholestasis, heart disease, hair loss, abnormal hair growth, infertility.
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Thanks. So some ways to battle these could be
-joint pain- fish oils, glucosamine/chondrointin
-insomnia- melatonin, diphenhydramine
-liver damage- cycle support supps
-lethargy- utilizing a test base... (What/what dose?)
-infirtility- ?
-hair loss- ?
-low libido- ?

mw1 said:
This^^^ CEL Cycle Assist is the best product on the market to combat the most common sides
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Yah, ill have to order some more support supps in order to complete my cycle. Ill consider this one.
 
TonyGunsling said:
Thanks. So some ways to battle these could be
-joint pain- fish oils, glucosamine/chondrointin
-insomnia- melatonin, diphenhydramine
-liver damage- cycle support supps
-lethargy- utilizing a test base... (What/what dose?)
-infirtility- ?
-hair loss- ?
-low libido- ?

Yah, ill have to order some more support supps in order to complete my cycle. Ill consider this one.
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No idea for fertility, bit nizoral shampoo for hair loss and cia for limp dick. Fake it till you make it
 
It depends on the individual, I'm currently on week 4 of Superdrol and haven't lost libido at all and still railing every night. A test base like Trestoderm is strong stuff and you can play with the dosage to see what works best but a half squirt every 12hrs is recommended. Also, I'm prone to MPB and Trest made me shed but SD hasn't one bit and halo is easy on the hairline as well. I also add in Red Yeast Rice and COQ10 for heart health to boost what CEL is already covering.
 
TonyGunsling said:
Thanks. So some ways to battle these could be -joint pain- fish oils, glucosamine/chondrointin -insomnia- melatonin, diphenhydramine -liver damage- cycle support supps -lethargy- utilizing a test base... (What/what dose?) -infirtility- ? -hair loss- ? -low libido- ? Yah, ill have to order some more support supps in order to complete my cycle. Ill consider this one.
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Low libido can be helped by a test base. Infertility, you're kinda SOL, at least until you're off, it's not guaranteed to hit everyone, it's just a possibility. HCG may help with recovery at the end of a cycle.
Oh. We all forgot the most important one. Gynecomastia. For that, keep a variety of estrogen blockers on hand. Erase is a good OTC one. Nolva, letro, and arimidex are decent choices if things get out of control (arimidex is a useful estrogen blocker when using a test base).

And the most important cycle support - pct.
 
Don't forget Taurine for back pumps and hawthorn berry for BP
 
srblan said:
Low libido can be helped by a test base. Infertility, you're kinda SOL, at least until you're off, it's not guaranteed to hit everyone, it's just a possibility. HCG may help with recovery at the end of a cycle. Oh. We all forgot the most important one. Gynecomastia. For that, keep a variety of estrogen blockers on hand. Erase is a good OTC one. Nolva, letro, and arimidex are decent choices if things get out of control (arimidex is a useful estrogen blocker when using a test base). And the most important cycle support - pct.
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So i will be running just halodrol by itself sometime by september. Then ill have a test base like 4AD on standby. Ill have to figure out what kind of dosages to run in order to not to gain too much from that alone.

As for the gyno. Ive got arimidex on the way. How could one dose that throughout a cycle? And should they if symptoms are just beginning? Or should it be an otc?
 
Don't forget high blood pressure. That's not to be taken lightly.
 
TonyGunsling said:
So i will be running just halodrol by itself sometime by september. Then ill have a test base like 4AD on standby. Ill have to figure out what kind of dosages to run in order to not to gain too much from that alone.

As for the gyno. Ive got arimidex on the way. How could one dose that throughout a cycle? And should they if symptoms are just beginning? Or should it be an otc?
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I don't recommend just jumping on chems for a PH cycle. Use a necessary. Especially something mild like hdrol. If you start to get tender nipples, then start a low dose of arimidex.
 
TonyGunsling said:
And cycle supports like damage control can help regulate blood pressure right? My BP is like 128/80. Been cuttin out my coffee/lowering caffeine lately to help there too.
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You're on the low side of prehypertension with the diastolic number at 80 . I would look at that before I started halo. It could possibly create complications. Yes cycle supports like blockade, cycle assist, damage control etc have haw berry in it for bp control but that doesn't mean your bp won't be affected.
 
dbrock504 said:
You're on the low side of prehypertension with the diastolic number at 80 . I would look at that before I started halo. It could possibly create complications. Yes cycle supports like blockade, cycle assist, damage control etc have haw berry in it for bp control but that doesn't mean your bp won't be affected.
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Hdrol always increases my bp..as do most ph's. Cycle assist doesn't help me at all. I usually have to double my bp meds during cycle
 
barrymcokiner said:
Hdrol always increases my bp..as do most ph's. Cycle assist doesn't help me at all. I usually have to double my bp meds during cycle
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Cycle assist helps in ways you don't notice also. You wouldn't know its helping keep your prostate healthy because you haven't had prostate issues on the cycle for example.
 
reps4jesus said:
Cycle assist helps in ways you don't notice also. You wouldn't know its helping keep your prostate healthy because you haven't had prostate issues on the cycle for example.
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I was referring solely to bp... Metoprolol helps out great while on cycle, any Dr will write a script for it if you come in with elevated bp
 
Preload the cycle assist a couple weeks, if you use it.

Maybe nitrates for BP, too?
 
blacklac said:
Preload the cycle assist a couple weeks, if you use it. Maybe nitrates for BP, too?
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Ya ive been taking damage control for a couple days now. Lowered my caffeine intake. Stopped creatine and most other supps at the beginning of this month and have been drinking lots of green tea n water too.

Cant wait til prep phase is over!
 
Hawthorne definitely helps with mild prehypertension..I've been using it for a few months just for that purpose and my readings were down to normal prior to starting trest.
 
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