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PH a steroid?

SoupNaziNazi

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I'm sorry if this is in the wrong forum I didn't know where to post it. I'm asking strictly for possible future employment. The one says no drug use in the past ten years including anabolic steroids. Would a PH be considered a steroid in this sense?
 
SoupNaziNazi said:
I'm sorry if this is in the wrong forum I didn't know where to post it. I'm asking strictly for possible future employment. The one says no drug use in the past ten years including anabolic steroids. Would a PH be considered a steroid in this sense?
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Technically yea. Legally, no. Assuming you did legal ones, I'd say go with no. They are sold as "health supplements" incase u forgot
 
An employer wouldnt test for that. And would only show up for a little while after pct.
Like the other brother mentioned, ph's are legal. But what they convert to might not be
 
SoupNaziNazi said:
I'm sorry if this is in the wrong forum I didn't know where to post it. I'm asking strictly for possible future employment. The one says no drug use in the past ten years including anabolic steroids. Would a PH be considered a steroid in this sense?
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murk01 said:
An employer wouldnt test for that. And would only show up for a little while after pct.
Like the other brother mentioned, ph's are legal. But what they convert to might not be
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I think in SoupNazis case they would test for that.
 
These are DHSEA compliant Prohormones
Dhea
1-Dhea
4-Dhea
19nor Dhea
11-Keto Dhea (i believe has pending compliance)

Almost everything else on the market would be considered a Designer Steroid

So I would imagine if you stuck with the DSHEA compliant pro hormones, you wouldn't
technically be taking any anabolic steroids.
 
if you're taking a lie detector test, the answer will be up to how you believe. if you say "no" but really believe that they are steroids, then you'd fail. if you believe they are not steroids, and answer "no" you would pass. the results are based on deception.
 
Jethro Bodine said:
if you're taking a lie detector test, the answer will be up to how you believe. if you say "no" but really believe that they are steroids, then you'd fail. if you believe they are not steroids, and answer "no" you would pass. the results are based on deception.
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You really think a machine can tell if you are lying. Lie detectors are bullcrap. Just an intimidation tool. Check out antipolygraph.org. Practice what it tells you and don't even worry.
 
jack_black said:
You really think a machine can tell if you are lying. Lie detectors are bullcrap. Just an intimidation tool. Check out antipolygraph.org. Practice what it tells you and don't even worry.
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But would it be worth the OP's career trying to beat the test? I'd rather be honest. That'd work out in his favor more than having a poly say that he's lying. Lots of people have experimented with pot or whatever when they were younger. Lying might look worse than actually admitting to drug usage. Unless it's the DEA, then he for sure won't get the job lol
 
My point is the polygraph is not valid. It's just a tool to make you change answers and admit stuff. It has nothing to do with what you believe as Jethro said.
 
I completely understand that man but if he ****s up and makes himself think that he's lying, that could be bad for him. That's all.
 
jack_black said:
My point is the polygraph is not valid. It's just a tool to make you change answers and admit stuff. It has nothing to do with what you believe as Jethro said.
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I was just stating the premise of the test. not the accuracy. I have no clue as to the real accuracy. but if he believes he is lying, he may give contradicting answers to the follow up questions.
personally, I believe that the test can be beat, and I believe that the person giving the test plays a big part in the outcome.
I'd never even consider a job that gives tests like these. no way it could pay enough to make it worthwhile to me. I don't like a bunch of ssholes all up in my business. lol
 
SoupNaziNazi said:
It would be a lie detector. That's why I ask. If it's not "considered" a steroid per say then i think I'd be fine
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Wtf you applying for the KGB??

Simple answer then. Did you u buy it from a shadowy character by the dumpster behind you gym. Or one of the many legit webstore that sell other health supplements?

U'll be fine . Its not an illegal drug. Its sold openly and legally.
 
jack_black said:
You really think a machine can tell if you are lying. Lie detectors are bullcrap. Just an intimidation tool. Check out antipolygraph.org. Practice what it tells you and don't even worry.
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Jethro was right, actually. Polygraph tests measure heart rate, how much you sweat, breathing rate, and two other things and when you lie it physiologically alters these things (everyone to a different extent). So it just measures your physiology but lying affects it and THATs how it tells. Yes, lie detectors are bullcrap because you can easily fool them by inducing the changes in physiology that occur when lying, but induce them when telling the truth (and then the machine can't tell the difference and it's all truth).

Anyway, I'd vote to say 'no' on the form or whatever but if they ask say 'I've never used steroids, but I have used legal, OTC anabolic supplements'
 
murk01 said:
Wtf you applying for the KGB?? Simple answer then. Did you u buy it from a shadowy character by the dumpster behind you gym. Or one of the many legit webstore that sell other health supplements? U'll be fine . Its not an illegal drug. Its sold openly and legally.
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FBI and other government law enforcement. Those are the main ones. And I'd be getting them from a regular supp storefront
 
If your concerned with it if you get polygraphed simply answer I have not taken any Illegal Anabolic Steroids.
 
T-Bone said:
Yeah, great advice here. Perfect start to a law enforcement career. Start with lies.
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They are just as bad as you and I. Idk why people can't understand that.
Law enforcement and government officials in the United States are a ****ing joke.
 
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