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PES Stack or not to stack...

lboston

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Want to run some PES products for the next few weeks while I'm debating which first cycle I want to run this winter...

I have ABE, EP, and Alphamine. I'm not sure of I want to stack the three, run them all solo to see affects of each product, or do the Alphamine and EP in hopes of cutting down some BF.

Anyone out there running all three simultaneously?
 
Want to run some PES products for the next few weeks while I'm debating which first cycle I want to run this winter...

I have ABE, EP, and Alphamine. I'm not sure of I want to stack the three, run them all solo to see affects of each product, or do the Alphamine and EP in hopes of cutting down some BF.

Anyone out there running all three simultaneously?

If your main concern is cutting I would recommend EP+Alphamine and a diet set to a caloric Deficit. So far Alphamine has gotten fantastic reviews and first impressions, I don't think it would disappoint. You can Add Reduce-XT or Raspberry Ketones to that stack too if you wish.
Main concern should be the diet, but at your size and height I think you already have a pretty good idea about your nutrition (5'7 and 195 is not a small guy at all haha, nice bro)
 
Thanks for the feedback man. I appreciate it. Us vertically challenged have to stick together ; )
I like you're thinking. I may save the Anabeta for a later date. I have used erase before, not EP, so I know somewhat of what I can expect from that.

Thanks for the kind word. I'm a little heavier than I should be with about 15 percent body fat, but most all I focused on for the last couple years was strength training and eating a ton of clean food (except for weekends--fair game). Really switching that up to more hypertrophy oriented training with mild cardio and once a week strength based workouts.

Thanks again.
 
Thanks for the feedback man. I appreciate it. Us vertically challenged have to stick together ; )
I like you're thinking. I may save the Anabeta for a later date. I have used erase before, not EP, so I know somewhat of what I can expect from that.

Thanks for the kind word. I'm a little heavier than I should be with about 15 percent body fat, but most all I focused on for the last couple years was strength training and eating a ton of clean food (except for weekends--fair game). Really switching that up to more hypertrophy oriented training with mild cardio and once a week strength based workouts.

Thanks again.

Lucky you, I am really looking to pack on some lean mass and strength! Just remember, 8 weeks on , 4 weeks off brother. If you ever run into a Stim-Break too check out Caffeine Free Focus XT :) , the original Focus-XT has always made Cardio Pleasurable for me!
 
I personally would try them alone but know that it can be hard to resist. Erase Pro and ABE are awesome and helped me lean out quite a bit, so using Alpha in conjunction with either should be interesting.

Keep in mind if Erase dries you out then EP will do it to an even greater extent. Not in a bad way too, it had a very apparent effect during my cut (increased definition, etc).
 
Took my first scoop of Alphamine about 5 mind ago and I need to get off here and hit the gym...

Energy rush is very noticeable. Very.

I messed up and took it after my morning shake--hoping that won't mesa anything up as my stomach is definitely not empty.
If I puke on rack deadlifts this morning I'll have my answer...
Also took 1 cap EP, going to run this a couple weeks with the Alphamine and then maybe add in the ABE I have in the cabinet.
 
lboston said:
Took my first scoop of Alphamine about 5 mind ago and I need to get off here and hit the gym...

Energy rush is very noticeable. Very.

I messed up and took it after my morning shake--hoping that won't mesa anything up as my stomach is definitely not empty.
If I puke on rack deadlifts this morning I'll have my answer...
Also took 1 cap EP, going to run this a couple weeks with the Alphamine and then maybe add in the ABE I have in the cabinet.

Keep us updated. It's a very popular stack right now. Good luck
 
I'm kinda glad it takes about three weeks for my alphamine to get to where I live, cause I probably would have started it on top of my EP and ABE stack. Its just to hard to resist when you get that parcel ya just want to open it and start using it!
 
redms said:
I'm kinda glad it takes about three weeks for my alphamine to get to where I live, cause I probably would have started it on top of my EP and ABE stack. Its just to hard to resist when you get that parcel ya just want to open it and start using it!

I am the worst for that
 
I personally would try them alone but know that it can be hard to resist. Erase Pro and ABE are awesome and helped me lean out quite a bit, so using Alpha in conjunction with either should be interesting.

I agree with Bolt. I think all supps need to be run solo the first time so that you know what each supp does for you. How else can you gauge a single supps effectiveness and know what you want to buy next time? Like Bolt said, the allure of stacking them is hard to overcome but you may be better off.
 
Dewey99 said:
I agree with Bolt. I think all supps need to be run solo the first time so that you know what each supp does for you. How else can you gauge a single supps effectiveness and know what you want to buy next time? Like Bolt said, the allure of stacking them is hard to overcome but you may be better off.

No doubt.
I'm using the Alphamine and erase pro together though. I've used erase quite a bit and know what it does. Plus, I'm on TRT and need my estrogen in check. Going to wait on the ABE for at least a couple weeks.
 
I am the worst for that

Me too! I have literally tried supps (flavored pwoders) after I got home from work when I had no intention of working out. Can't resist try that new BCAA flavor even if is while I kick back and watch TV.
 
Running this stack right now, so I will be able to tell you soon if it's a good stack. :-)

Loving the first impression of the combo though for sure.
 
Me too! I have literally tried supps (flavored pwoders) after I got home from work when I had no intention of working out. Can't resist try that new BCAA flavor even if is while I kick back and watch TV.
Same, I've taken a preworkout at 8 pm when I got home from work and forced myself to workout for the 2nd time that day.....it's sad really..
 
Same, I've taken a preworkout at 8 pm when I got home from work and forced myself to workout for the 2nd time that day.....it's sad really..

Isn't that standard procedure for NP orders? I mean...I workout at 6am...get home from classes and all...find a new package and :yup: time to workout again.
 
Celorza said:
Isn't that standard procedure for NP orders? I mean...I workout at 6am...get home from classes and all...find a new package and :yup: time to workout again.

Lol pretty much
 
Well, Alphamine definitely packs a punch. However, for me it was short lived this morning. Felt like I needed a nap after my workout. It was like I was very stimmed out then crashed pretty hard after about 2 hours.

Just took the second scoop of the day. We will see how it goes.
 
nattydisaster said:
What does your dosing scheme look like

Once in the am, 30 mins before breakfast and then another 5-6 hrs later.

I have an extremely high stim tolerance though. Much higher than I'd like. Too much coffee and diet coke I'm guessing...
 
nattydisaster said:
1 scoop AM?

Natty, thanks for checking back. Tried it again today and felt sick to my stomach all morning.
There were a couple times I thought I was going to puke. I've had some runs as well. the appetite suppression, however, is totally there.
It's the strangest thing, other than feel any energy I get SO tired I feel as if I need a nap. Just woke up from one actually. Feel fine now.
The uneasiness usually wears off after a couple hours, as well does the lethargy.

Now, please don't think I'm bashing the product. Certainly not. Erase is the best supplement I've ever used and the stuff you guys bring out is some of the few natural products actually worth the money.

Some things just affect me differently. I have no gallbladder due to liver cancer years ago, but Im not sure that would affect anything, unless it has to do with producing less bile needed to break down/ metabolize some ingredients.

Thanks for checking in though. Im a special education teacher and off today, but if you'd like I could give a scoop to my kids at work tomorrow and tell them it's fruit punch to gauge their results! ; )
 
nattydisaster said:
The most strange thing is you have drastically different feel different days. Sounds like you are sensitive to simulants if you got nausea

It may be the case. I'm was sick to my stomach on Tuesday, vomit and diarrhea, so I think I has a stomach bug. Tried to take the Alphamine on days prior to that. The nausea may have been unrelated to Alphamine and the start of a virus.
One of the many benefits of working with kids...they share everything...
 
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