PCT??

IrishDaniel

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Ok guys i no most of you will be saying no your gains will be low but its low gains low side efects also i want to see how my body reacts to ph cycles .. FURUZA-A is the cycle im going with 100/100/150/150/150/150 i might bump it up but where see how it goes so PCT will i need a serm ?

Preload cycle assist 1 week before cycle

FURUZA-A
100/100/150/150/150

PCT

Nolva 20/20/10/10 ?? Or esto serpress with pct assist ?? Thanks

P.S this my last time changin cycle im stayin with this one
 
Machwon1 said:
Nolva/ natty test booster/zma. Should be a fine pct..
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zma doesnt boost test at all but may help with sleep

i'd also add some creatine in there too

re: natty booster, go for solid profile. products I like are bioforge, hcgenerate, daa/testforce 2.

and if you're rich, add in x-factor
 
Ya zma was mainly for sleep to try and get gh to stay high because the nolva hurts it... Also if you want add in some cortisol control... It'll help keep more gains and all around good idea.
 
Wow thats alot of stuff lol i thought FURUZA-A is a very mild cycle even at doees at 250/300 i mean will nolva be a must ?
 
IrishDaniel said:
Wow thats alot of stuff lol i thought FURUZA-A is a very mild cycle even at doees at 250/300 i mean will nolva be a must ?
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not a must, you could go with something like the TRS stack
 
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IrishDaniel said:
Ohh right i dont this would beat a serm tho
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if a serm is needed, nothing beats a SERM! but, furazadrol is one of the weakest steroids available, I doubt a month, at a modest dose, is going to really cause shutdown.

the TRS was designed for mild cycles.

SERM's can have some unfortunate side effects too, taking them without reason isn't always a good idea.
 
he might get by with something like recycle ? I usually stack stano and furuza with something a little stronger
 
O ok seems right so how about this esto serpress with Reversitol V2 ? Will that be good enough for pct ? Also get a serm just in case ? Thanks ?
 
IMO, if you're gonna run anabolics, you need to have a serm on hand!

as far as your other questions about esto supress, I'm not familiar with that product...so, IDK.
 
Ok bro so if i run it at 250/300 i will need a serm for sure then right? I mean im just lookibg for a cycle that i could just try out its hard as i want to deffo put this cycle on so if i for sure use 100/100/150/150/150 just like this will i need a serm ? Alao il be using cycle assist ?? Im looking to get sbit stronger maybye 2 to 3 pounds of muscle but want to lose bodyfat as im like 20% bodyfat just guessing .. So a very mild cycle is what im looking for 2 things i dnt want that im scared of .. 1 hairloss 2 gyno so what you think ? Thanks
 
IrishDaniel said:
Ok bro so if i run it at 250/300 i will need a serm for sure then right? I mean im just lookibg for a cycle that i could just try out its hard as i want to deffo put this cycle on so if i for sure use 100/100/150/150/150 just like this will i need a serm ? Alao il be using cycle assist ?? Im looking to get sbit stronger maybye 2 to 3 pounds of muscle but want to lose bodyfat as im like 20% bodyfat just guessing .. So a very mild cycle is what im looking for 2 things i dnt want that im scared of .. 1 hairloss 2 gyno so what you think ? Thanks
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I have run FURUZA-A, solo and as a bridge to PCT. I like it. I think u hav a solid plan for your 1st cycle.

Dose furuz-a 200 mg for 6-8 wks. split doses every 6hours. 2 pills am and 2 pills late afternoon. pls avoid dosing close to bed time. take every dose with 1000mg of fish oil. and dose 20-30mg zinc with b6 at nite.

You will see nice DHT type results. you will notice the effects of reduced estrogen causing you to dry out/lean out a little bit. libido should be unaffected if not enhanced slightly. muscles will have a harder look and u should expect a good hard 3-6LBS of muscle.

shutdown should be minimal on this cycle. however, some shutdown will occur, or as i call it "an interruption in the HPTA feedback loop". believe it or not this is desirable when running steriods/ph's because this "interruption" does not allow the normalization or homeostasis in your hormonal system to occur. thus, allowing a higher degree of steroid in the body, hence when you are on cycle you are above the norm.

Now, on to pct: we must undo this "interruption" to your system.
run Nolva 20/10/10/10. this will kick start your pituritary and hypothlamus to produce LH and FSH, test will increase and your HPTA will restart. now along with the nolva we want run something that will maintain our restarted system and keep the LH and FSH stimulated for a prolonged period so gains will stick. you can use the above mentioned TRS stack or u can run DAA 0/0/3grms/3/3/3 with an AI like ERASE 0/0/3/3/3/3. i like ERASE because it helps control estrogen and cortisol. in addition, by running Nolva you will get a good restart to your test and we don't want any of that aromatizing.

after the above pct is completed i like to run 2,500 mg of trib 45% dosed throughout the day with 25mgs of 6-bromo(or low dose AI) at nite. for 4 weeks.

once the above is completed i like to run 2,000 iu vit d3, 500mg vit c, and 400-800iu of vit E(toco 8 looks good) in the AM and ZMA at nite. for 3-4 additional months.

The zma is not for test boost but for maintance of test levels.
 
Wow tgats alot ha where can i get that stuff ? I just thought as its very mild i wouldnt need a serm as serms mess upyou eyes and could give you bloodclots
 
IrishDaniel said:
Wow tgats alot ha where can i get that stuff ? I just thought as its very mild i wouldnt need a serm as serms mess upyou eyes and could give you bloodclots
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Use google search. you can look for it in pill or research chem form. At the doses above, nolva sides will be low if any.


If you must go otc route, DAA/creatine for 30-45 days stacked with low dose 2 caps ERASE and 500mg of l-arginine at nite, followed by another 4 wks of 2500 mg of trib 45% stacked with 25mg of 6-bromo(or low dose AI) at nite.

follow this by ZMA every nite with vitamins d3, C, and E(try toco 8) in the morning for a min. of 3 mos or until your next cycle
 
Ok well nolva sounds easyer and also safer and cost ... So you telling me that people saying nolva is not going to cause bloodclots as some people say ? Hair thining ? As this is the only reason why i sm trying to avoid it ?? Thanks
 
IrishDaniel said:
Ok well nolva sounds easyer and also safer and cost ... So you telling me that people saying nolva is not going to cause bloodclots as some people say ? Hair thining ? As this is the only reason why i sm trying to avoid it ?? Thanks
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1. I have never had any sides from Nolva at 20/10/10/10. I actually perfer clomid, but sides are present. Nolva will get it done in your case.

2. are u prone to hairloss in your family? if so, thining MAY occur.
 
Thats the thing i dont think i am as my dad had huge hair on him n my mom sure aint bold so i dont no and ok il go with nolva so this is my cycle


150/200/200/250/250

Nolva 20/10/10/10/ with pct assist ??? Also mutivits and fish oil iv been told that this does not thin yoyr hair ?? As its so mild
 
Looks good. after pct i would take vit d3 2000iu, vit c 500mg and vit e 400-800iu every morning with zma at nite for 3-4mos.
 
mikeshark00 said:
I have run FURUZA-A, solo and as a bridge to PCT. I like it. I think u hav a solid plan for your 1st cycle.

Dose furuz-a 200 mg for 6-8 wks. split doses every 6hours. 2 pills am and 2 pills late afternoon. pls avoid dosing close to bed time. take every dose with 1000mg of fish oil. and dose 20-30mg zinc with b6 at nite.

You will see nice DHT type results. you will notice the effects of reduced estrogen causing you to dry out/lean out a little bit. libido should be unaffected if not enhanced slightly. muscles will have a harder look and u should expect a good hard 3-6LBS of muscle.

shutdown should be minimal on this cycle. however, some shutdown will occur, or as i call it "an interruption in the HPTA feedback loop". believe it or not this is desirable when running steriods/ph's because this "interruption" does not allow the normalization or homeostasis in your hormonal system to occur. thus, allowing a higher degree of steroid in the body, hence when you are on cycle you are above the norm.

Now, on to pct: we must undo this "interruption" to your system.
run Nolva 20/10/10/10. this will kick start your pituritary and hypothlamus to produce LH and FSH, test will increase and your HPTA will restart. now along with the nolva we want run something that will maintain our restarted system and keep the LH and FSH stimulated for a prolonged period so gains will stick. you can use the above mentioned TRS stack or u can run DAA 0/0/3grms/3/3/3 with an AI like ERASE 0/0/3/3/3/3. i like ERASE because it helps control estrogen and cortisol. in addition, by running Nolva you will get a good restart to your test and we don't want any of that aromatizing.

after the above pct is completed i like to run 2,500 mg of trib 45% dosed throughout the day with 25mgs of 6-bromo(or low dose AI) at nite. for 4 weeks.

once the above is completed i like to run 2,000 iu vit d3, 500mg vit c, and 400-800iu of vit E(toco 8 looks good) in the AM and ZMA at nite. for 3-4 additional months.

The zma is not for test boost but for maintance of test levels.
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dang man, all this for a cycle that would only give you 3-6lbs of lbm???

you don't need to do 3 months of PCT for a cycle like this, that's just crazy!

to the OP:
nolva is fine, good chance your libido will be low during PCT, blood clots are unlikely.

IMO, if you're going to go OTC, TRS is the best option for PCT...good recovery, straight forward, and awesome libido. you'll be feeling great in 4 weeks, no need for all the extra stuff.
 
Realy? I know 3 to 6 pounds aint alot but im just looking to lose good bodyfat and get even 3bls of muscle tbh i would of went with h drol but side efects are more commen and a serm is a must i would go with nolva but blodclots? Come man aint you scared of that lol? I know i am and would be
 
SERM t-booster like Invalid Link Removed and you are set. If you go OTC just use the TRS.
 
Personally that's why I use the TRS^^Which I posted a link to above, in conjunction with a SERM so that I can mitigate my use.
 
hey im just curious but im about to run an mdrol cycle of 20/20/30/30 with cycle support,ive done 2 pro hormone cycles previous to this,both were epistane at my last cycle being 40/40/40/40..id like to know if this is a good pct to run with my mdrol cycle coming up.
nolva at 2ml,2ml,1ml,1ml and stack that with substain alpha or post cycle support
 
I dont no loads about ph as im starting my own but id say for sure bump up the nolva dous like this ... 30/30/20/10 as your taking 3 aday that sure will shut you down ... Then sgain my cuzing did this cycle for 6 weeks with no cycle sup no nothing and was takin 3 aday sometimes 4 and neva used a pct and his fine ... Weird i know lolz
 
funnyfini2 said:
hey im just curious but im about to run an mdrol cycle of 20/20/30/30 with cycle support,ive done 2 pro hormone cycles previous to this,both were epistane at my last cycle being 40/40/40/40..id like to know if this is a good pct to run with my mdrol cycle coming up.
nolva at 2ml,2ml,1ml,1ml and stack that with substain alpha or post cycle support
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What is the dose per ml? SA is a great addition TCF-1 (DAA) would also be helpful.
 
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