pct question

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is there any benefit to having an OTC pct, in addition to pharm grade nolva or clomid. or is it pointless?
 
I always recommend running an otc pct supp with a serm but if you have a serm that is the most important thing to have.
 
It is not necessary for recovery, but it absolutely helps with libido and energy imo. I always include one in mine personally.
 
I think they are helpful. Plenty of good options to choose from too.

A product like Alphamax XT will help with cortisol control, estrogen control, prolactin control, reducing stress, boosting libido etc.
 
Can I hijack for a moment? I'm running 19-Nor DHEA and OSTA.

19-Nor 150/200/300/300...
OSTA 15/15/15...
Planned for a 6 week cycle.

I've been taking androst 3,5-dien-7, 17-dione during cycle for AI.

I expect to continue the androst and add in a SERM and purus labs recycle just to be sure. (Overkill?)

What SERM is recommended? I've heard Nolv vs Clom are good for different things. Some people take both, I really don't know. Heard to much PCT is bad for gain retention. Originally planned on just the androst and recycle but was told to definitely add SERM.
 
Won't hurt, but if you have a legit serm and or using hcg, it's not really going to make any difference.
 
Cortisol will always rise during PCT. SNS REDUCE XT is a tried and true product that focus solely on combatting the rise in cortisol.
 
My go to PCT is always Clomid and AlphaMax XT. I personally prefer clomid to nolva. You could experiment and see how you respond to each one.

AlphaMax It will have you covered from all angles, in addition to the SERM. You will get a full dosed AI, Ashwagandha can also help reduce cortisol y reducing stress/anxiety. It also provides an increase in body comp. It helps maintain lean mass and increase fat loss. F95 increase cAMP levels and also does the same thing regarding body composition. You also have several ingredients that will aid in boosting testosterone. It beats buying an AI, testbooster, something for libido, etc. It is a nice, all in one solution when combined with a SERM.
 
AntM1564 said:
My go to PCT is always Clomid and AlphaMax XT. I personally prefer clomid to nolva. You could experiment and see how you respond to each one.

AlphaMax It will have you covered from all angles, in addition to the SERM. You will get a full dosed AI, Ashwagandha can also help reduce cortisol y reducing stress/anxiety. It also provides an increase in body comp. It helps maintain lean mass and increase fat loss. F95 increase cAMP levels and also does the same thing regarding body composition. You also have several ingredients that will aid in boosting testosterone. It beats buying an AI, testbooster, something for libido, etc. It is a nice, all in one solution when combined with a SERM.
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Thank you! I'll check it out for sure.
 
ArmDay said:
I've read different/mixed opinions on this. Can Sup3rPCT by Olympus Labs replace a SERM for PCT?
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No over the counter product can replace a SERM. You run Super PCT in addition to a SERM. Not as a replacement.
 
I keep hearing over doing the SERM can actually cause you to lose gains faster than you might. I asked on another forum if I should take Clom and Nolva and they told me overkill would undo my work. Dunno if anyone else thinks that's true.
 
sespress said:
I keep hearing over doing the SERM can actually cause you to lose gains faster than you might. I asked on another forum if I should take Clom and Nolva and they told me overkill would undo my work. Dunno if anyone else thinks that's true.
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100% false information
 
sespress said:
I keep hearing over doing the SERM can actually cause you to lose gains faster than you might. I asked on another forum if I should take Clom and Nolva and they told me overkill would undo my work. Dunno if anyone else thinks that's true.
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Can you please link us to whoever is saying this? I'd like to rip them a new ******* lol

Usually people run SERM+Test booster (mainly for libido)+Cortisol control supp (Reduce XT is the most popular).
 
NoAddedHmones said:
UncleSarm Interested in your thoughts bro, haven't heard them before.
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I did an OTC PCT with Rebirth after 6 weeks of Osta at 25mg and I liked it. I felt good and my libido was fine throughout PCT. I did only 4 weeks but if I had to go back and redo it, I would follow vujade's recommendation and extend the PCT to 8 weeks.
Also, keep in mind that my blood tests showed that my T levels were just below minimum, but LH and FSH values were in the middle of the range. Which means that although my T was suppressed, LH and FSH were not. Had those values been low, I likely would have gone for the traditional Nolva PCT. For sure I would not use it or recommend it alone for harsher compounds.
 
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