pct question

nclifter1978

nclifter1978

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I am currently running a low epi cycle 20,20,30,40...i have a SERM on hand, clomid. I also have some otc pct's, formex, novedex xt and post cycle support. Since epi is such a weak steroid, can I just use 1 or more of these products and save my clomid for a more harsh cycle...I want to do a sd/epi cycle in the spring/summer.

Sorry if this question was asked before.

Thanks for your help.
 
First of all, EPI IS NOT A WEAK STEROID!!!

Use a SERM if you have one. Why bring a knife to a gunfight if you have a gun?


Epi/SD is gonna be harsh as fuuuck! Goodluck tho, gains should be insane!
 
You don't want to play around with it. You may think it is weak but your insides might not. Get blood work done after your PCT to be sure your levels have returned to normal.
 
warbird01 said:
First of all, EPI IS NOT A WEAK STEROID!!!

Use a SERM if you have one. Why bring a knife to a gunfight if you have a gun?


Epi/SD is gonna be harsh as fuuuck! Goodluck tho, gains should be insane!
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Damn did not se the SD part SERM for sure.
 
hey guys, thanks for replying. i ran epi last year with an otc, seemed to work fine. kept most my gains, felt good...only issue was elvated bp that came down within a month after pct. i guess i want to be safe but also save my serm for my next cycle.
i said it was a weak steriod, probably shouldn't of said it that way...it;s not as harsh as other stuff.
i will consider carefully which way to go. thanks for your help.
 
warbird01 said:
heard dat.

I would personally like him to have a SERM for epi too...
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I agree with that also. My best suggestion on these epi runs is Nolva 20/20/10/10 a natty test booster and a cortisol blocker if money is not a big issue.
 
nclifter1978 said:
hey guys, thanks for replying. i ran epi last year with an otc, seemed to work fine. kept most my gains, felt good...only issue was elvated bp that came down within a month after pct. i guess i want to be safe but also save my serm for my next cycle.
i said it was a weak steriod, probably shouldn't of said it that way...it;s not as harsh as other stuff.
i will consider carefully which way to go. thanks for your help.
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How long did the did the BP stay high for?
 
pembroke3355 said:
How long did the did the BP stay high for?
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not long, about a month...i usually run 120/70...i got as high as 140/80. i didn't use any support supps for my bp...i was concerned about my liver. i took high doses of coq10 w/ hawthorn berries...worked great for me!

i'm in my last week of my cycle, i took my bp this morning and it was 132/74...and i'm taking supps...so it's a little high.
 
nclifter1978 said:
not long, about a month...i usually run 120/70...i got as high as 140/80. i didn't use any support supps for my bp...i was concerned about my liver. i took high doses of coq10 w/ hawthorn berries...worked great for me!

i'm in my last week of my cycle, i took my bp this morning and it was 132/74...and i'm taking supps...so it's a little high.
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Yeah that is not seriously high.
 
do you recommend throwing some dhea into a pct...if so how much mg? i've heard good things about it, but never tried it.
thanks.
 
I've said this in many posts but Epi shut me down badly!! I had a much easier time getting back to normal after a 12 week Test cycle than I did the 3 weeks I was one Epi....I cut that cycle short because I did not like the way I felt. At least you have a serm if you need it.
 
triton185 said:
I've said this in many posts but Epi shut me down badly!! I had a much easier time getting back to normal after a 12 week Test cycle than I did the 3 weeks I was one Epi....I cut that cycle short because I did not like the way I felt. At least you have a serm if you need it.
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yeah...epi acts differently from person to person. i'll keep my serm on hand and use it at first sign of trouble.
 
triton185 said:
I've said this in many posts but Epi shut me down badly!! I had a much easier time getting back to normal after a 12 week Test cycle than I did the 3 weeks I was one Epi....I cut that cycle short because I did not like the way I felt. At least you have a serm if you need it.
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Most people misinterpret "low sides" as "no shutdown"

Epi WILL shut you down, no doubt about that. But it also usually has low sides so people think that means they arnt shut down.

I have seen bloodwork where a guy thought his epi was bunk because he diint have any gains in 4 weeks and got bloodwork and had something like 50 test...
 
warbird01 said:
Most people misinterpret "low sides" with "no shutdown"

Epi WILL shut you down, no doubt about that. But it also usually has low sides so people think that means they arnt shut down.

I have seen bloodwork where a guy thought his epi was bunk because he diint have any gains in 4 weeks and got bloodwork and had something like 50 test...
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Yes feeling good does not mean you are. Bloodwork is highly suggested on all cycles.
 
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