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:toofunny:Man I would pick my nose sometimes to show others how it looked like ice.Then I'd explain it was cause I blow smoke out my nose all the time.:think:I swear anything would like that sh!t after so long of being on it.I don't blame you at all!If only one could get a glimpse of somerthing fvcked up in the future right before their first hit,I don't think anyone would ever use that sh!t!!!!

I know I wouldn't have. Although I had more sex on that sht than at any other time in my fcuking life! And I'm not talking normal bumpin and grindin I'm talk about borderline satanic bondage type sht!! I could tell you stories you wouldn't even believe!!
 
someone I know maybe me but I wouldn't admit it, stayed up one time 9 straight days on some sick greasy smelly cubes, you know the ones, vanilla ice ice baby, it was cut a sliver snort it up cut a sliver tand fire it up well 8 days later I, I mean this guy I know, gots the apartment windows taped over with 3 mil black plastic taking smoke detectors apart, chain smoking, I, I mean he decides hey its like 9 days later I haven't slept or ate I better try and drink myself down, drinks a handle of cheap vodka, goes in the kitchen to make some mac-n-cheese, top goes to the bottom, bottom to the top, I, I mean he manages to turn off the stove walks towards the coach, ummmm can't make it bail to floor sleep for 12 straight hours wake up and get right back on it..... what a miserable life........

Been there brother.... 9 was my max also. I was fcuked up beyond all basic human function at that point. Even OD'd once and swore the sht off!! Stayed clean for a whole week and then right back on the highway straight to fcuking hell for another full year before I overcame my demons and picked up the glorious Iron (created by god himself) again for the first time in 3 years. Put on 40lbs of beef and the rest is unfolding to this day!!!...
I will never surrender to anything!!!:aargh:
 
someone I know maybe me but I wouldn't admit it, stayed up one time 9 straight days on some sick greasy smelly cubes, you know the ones, vanilla ice ice baby, it was cut a sliver snort it up cut a sliver tand fire it up well 8 days later I, I mean this guy I know, gots the apartment windows taped over with 3 mil black plastic taking smoke detectors apart, chain smoking, I, I mean he decides hey its like 9 days later I haven't slept or ate I better try and drink myself down, drinks a handle of cheap vodka, goes in the kitchen to make some mac-n-cheese, top goes to the bottom, bottom to the top, I, I mean he manages to turn off the stove walks towards the coach, ummmm can't make it bail to floor sleep for 12 straight hours wake up and get right back on it..... what a miserable life........


I didn't do it for that long(three months),nor did I stay on it for that long of periods of time when I did do it.I got messed up after the first night and I was working full time.One night a family memeber that was doing it with me wouldn't let me go home.He told me later it was cause he didn't feel safe having me be alone and possibly getting around others while in that state of mind.....Anyways,thats what got me to quit is I started to feel miserable while on it.Like a worthless shell of a person.I couldn't carry on a conversation or do anything that required effort.I'd be doing one thing and realise I was still changing the channels on the TV when I wasn't even watching it.Just straight fvcked up in so many ways.
 
I didn't do it for that long(three months),nor did I stay on it for that long of periods of time when I did do it.I got messed up after the first night and I was working full time.One night a family memeber that was doing it with me wouldn't let me go home.He told me later it was cause he didn't feel safe having me be alone and possibly getting around others while in that state of mind.....Anyways,thats what got me to quit is I started to feel miserable while on it.Like a worthless shell of a person.I couldn't carry on a conversation or do anything that required effort.I'd be doing one thing and realise I was still changing the channels on the TV when I wasn't even watching it.Just straight fvcked up in so many ways.

Your lucky (blessed) that you kicked it so fast. I did it for 3-4 years on and off but for the first year it was a way of life ED all day!! Really took it's tole on my mind and body. The last two years I was doing it I just couldn't get away from the sht! Everyone I knew was into! I would stay up a few days and hate the sht out of myself for it and stay away for like 2-3months and then I'd do it again. This went on for two years before I really did something crazy. After I got out of prison I never went back to that sht or that sh1tty form of pathetic existence and I never fcuking will!!!
 
Hey what the fcuk?? I just realized you've got 9 pages going on up in hurr and I don't think I've seen a single update on your wo's?? Or maybe I just skipped some sht lol...
Strength increase?
Back pump status?
 
IRON, to the BRUTHAS who survived their DOOM

Iron by Henry Rollins

I believe that the definition of definition is reinvention. To not be like your parents. To not be like your friends. To be yourself. Completely. When I was young I had no sense of myself. All I was, was a product of all the fear and humiliation I suffered. Fear of my parents. The humiliation of teachers calling me "garbage can" and telling me I'd be mowing lawns for a living. And the very real terror of my fellow students. I was threatened and beaten up for the color of my skin and my size. I was skinny and clumsy, and when others would tease me I didn't run home crying, wondering why. I knew all too well.

I was there to be antagonized. In sports I was laughed at. A spaz. I was pretty good at boxing but only because the rage that filled my every waking moment made me wild and unpredictable. I fought with some strange fury. The other boys thought I was crazy. I hated myself all the time. As stupid at it seems now, I wanted to talk like them, dress like them, carry myself with the ease of knowing that I wasn't going to get pounded in the hallway between classes. Years passed and I learned to keep it all inside.

I only talked to a few boys in my grade. Other losers. Some of them are to this day the greatest people I have ever known. Hang out with a guy who has had his head flushed down a toilet a few times, treat him with respect, and you'll find a faithful friend forever. But even with friends, school sucked. Teachers gave me hard time. I didn't think much of them either.

Then came Mr. Pepperman, my advisor. He was a powerfully built Vietnam veteran, and he was scary. No one ever talked out of turn in his class. Once one kid did and Mr. P. lifted him off the ground and pinned him to the blackboard. Mr. P. could see that I was in bad shape, and one Friday in October he asked me if I had ever worked out with weights. I told him no. He told me that I was going to take some of the money that I had saved and buy a hundred-pound set of weights at Sears. As I left his office, I started to think of things I would say to him on Monday when he asked about the weights that I was not going to buy. Still, it made me feel special. My father never really got that close to caring.

On Saturday I bought the weights, but I couldn't even drag them to my mom's car. An attendant laughed at me as he put them on a dolly. Monday came and I was called into Mr. P.'s office after school. He said that he was going to show me how to work out. He was going to put me on a program and start hitting me in the solar plexus in the hallway when I wasn't looking. When I could take the punch we wouldknow that we were getting somewhere.

At no time was I to look at myself in the mirror or tell anyone at school what I was doing. In the gym he showed me ten basic exercises. I paid more attention than I ever did in any of my classes. I didn't want to blow it. I went home that night and started right in. Weeks passed, and every once in a while Mr. P. would give me a shot and drop me in the hallway, sending my books flying. The other students didn't know what to think. More weeks passed, and I was steadily adding new weights to the bar. I could sense the power inside my body growing. I could feel it.

Right before Christmas break I was walking to class, and from out of nowhere Mr. Pepperman appeared and gave me a shot in the chest. I laughed and kept going. He said I could look at myself now. I got home and ran to the bathroom and pulled off my shirt. I saw a body, not just the shell that housed my stomach and my heart. My biceps bulged. My chest had definition. I felt strong. It was the first time I can remember having a sense of myself. I had done something and no one could ever take it away.

You couldn't say s**t to me. It took me years to fully appreciate the value of the lessons I havelearned from the Iron. I used to think that it was my adversary, that I was trying to lift that which does not want to be lifted. I waswrong. When the Iron doesn't want to come off the mat, it's the kindest thing it can do for you. If it flew up and went through the ceiling, it wouldn't teach you anything. That's the way the Iron talks to you. It tells you that the material you work with is that which you will come to resemble.

That which you work against will always work against you. It wasn't until my late twenties that I learned that by working out I had given myself a great gift. I learned that nothing good comes without work and a certain amount of pain. When I finish a set that leaves me shaking, I know more about myself. When something gets bad, I know it can't be as bad as that workout. I used to fight the pain, but recently this became clear to me: pain is not my enemy; it is my call to greatness. But when dealing with the Iron, one must be careful to interpret the pain correctly. Most injuries involving the Iron come from ego.


I once spent a few weeks lifting weight that my body wasn't ready for and spent a few months not picking up anything heavier than a fork. Try to lift what you're not prepared to and the Iron will teach you a little lesson in restraint and self-control. I have never met a truly strong person who didn't have self-respect. I think a lot of inwardly and outwardly directed contempt passes itself off as self- respect: the idea of raising yourself by stepping on someone's shoulders instead of doing it yourself. When I see guys working out for cosmetic reasons, I see vanity exposing them in the worst way, as cartoon characters, billboards for imbalance and insecurity. Strength reveals itself through character. It is the difference between bouncers who get off strong-arming people and Mr.Pepperman.

Muscle mass does not always equal strength. Strength is kindness and sensitivity. Strength is understanding that your power is both physical and emotional. That it comes from the body and the mind. And the heart. Yukio Mishima said that he could not entertain the idea of romance if he was not strong. Romance is such a strong and overwhelming passion, a weakened body cannot sustain it for long. I have some of my most romantic thoughts when I am with the Iron.

Once I was in love with a woman. I thought about her the most when the pain from a workout was racing through my body. Everything in me wanted her. So much so that sex was only a fraction of my total desire. It was the single most intense love I have ever felt, but she lived far away and I didn't see her very often. Working out was a healthy way of dealing with the loneliness.

To this day, when I work out I usually listen to ballads. I prefer to work out alone. It enables me to concentrate on the lessons that the Iron has for me. Learning about what you're made of is always time well spent, and I have found no better teacher. The Iron had taught me how to live. Life is capable of driving you out of your mind. The way it all comes down these days, it's some kind of miracle if you're not insane. People have become separated from their bodies. They are no longer whole. I see them move from their offices to their cars and on to their suburban homes. They stress out constantly, they lose sleep, they eat badly. And they behave badly. Their egos run wild; they become motivated by that which will eventually give them a massive stroke. They need the Iron Mind.

Through the years, I have combined meditation, action, and the Iron into a single strength. I believe that when the body is strong, the mind thinks strong thoughts. Time spent away from the Iron makes my mind degenerate. I wallow in a thick depression. My body shuts down my mind. The Iron is the best antidepressant I have ever found. There is no better way to fight weakness than with strength. Once the mind and body have been awakened to their true potential, it's impossible to turn back.

The Iron never lies to you. You can walk outside and listen to all kinds of talk, get told that you're a god or a total bastard. The Iron will always kick you the real deal. The Iron is the great reference point, the all-knowing perspective giver. Always there like a beacon in the pitch black. I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds. " -Henry Rollins
 
O and one more thing I tested out my Scivation Chocolate Whey for ya bro.
1. The bag they sent it in was fcuking ripped and my scale said it was short a LB WTF??
Taste 9/10
Mixability 7/10
Ingredient profile IMO 7/10
Packaging 4/10 (it was in a big crappy plastic baggie inside of a box)

Overall not bad for $60 bucks, I was pissed about the state of my order but I got it from "the other guys" LMAO so it could be their fault.
I would say get some it's pretty good I'm kinda burned out on the whole chocolate/vinila flavours but it's def one of the better ones as far as taste goes.
 
Iron by Henry Rollins

I believe that the definition of definition is reinvention. To not be like your parents. To not be like your friends. To be yourself. Completely. When I was young I had no sense of myself. All I was, was a product of all the fear and humiliation I suffered. Fear of my parents. The humiliation of teachers calling me "garbage can" and telling me I'd be mowing lawns for a living. And the very real terror of my fellow students. I was threatened and beaten up for the color of my skin and my size. I was skinny and clumsy, and when others would tease me I didn't run home crying, wondering why. I knew all too well.

I was there to be antagonized. In sports I was laughed at. A spaz. I was pretty good at boxing but only because the rage that filled my every waking moment made me wild and unpredictable. I fought with some strange fury. The other boys thought I was crazy. I hated myself all the time. As stupid at it seems now, I wanted to talk like them, dress like them, carry myself with the ease of knowing that I wasn't going to get pounded in the hallway between classes. Years passed and I learned to keep it all inside.

I only talked to a few boys in my grade. Other losers. Some of them are to this day the greatest people I have ever known. Hang out with a guy who has had his head flushed down a toilet a few times, treat him with respect, and you'll find a faithful friend forever. But even with friends, school sucked. Teachers gave me hard time. I didn't think much of them either.

Then came Mr. Pepperman, my advisor. He was a powerfully built Vietnam veteran, and he was scary. No one ever talked out of turn in his class. Once one kid did and Mr. P. lifted him off the ground and pinned him to the blackboard. Mr. P. could see that I was in bad shape, and one Friday in October he asked me if I had ever worked out with weights. I told him no. He told me that I was going to take some of the money that I had saved and buy a hundred-pound set of weights at Sears. As I left his office, I started to think of things I would say to him on Monday when he asked about the weights that I was not going to buy. Still, it made me feel special. My father never really got that close to caring.

On Saturday I bought the weights, but I couldn't even drag them to my mom's car. An attendant laughed at me as he put them on a dolly. Monday came and I was called into Mr. P.'s office after school. He said that he was going to show me how to work out. He was going to put me on a program and start hitting me in the solar plexus in the hallway when I wasn't looking. When I could take the punch we wouldknow that we were getting somewhere.

At no time was I to look at myself in the mirror or tell anyone at school what I was doing. In the gym he showed me ten basic exercises. I paid more attention than I ever did in any of my classes. I didn't want to blow it. I went home that night and started right in. Weeks passed, and every once in a while Mr. P. would give me a shot and drop me in the hallway, sending my books flying. The other students didn't know what to think. More weeks passed, and I was steadily adding new weights to the bar. I could sense the power inside my body growing. I could feel it.

Right before Christmas break I was walking to class, and from out of nowhere Mr. Pepperman appeared and gave me a shot in the chest. I laughed and kept going. He said I could look at myself now. I got home and ran to the bathroom and pulled off my shirt. I saw a body, not just the shell that housed my stomach and my heart. My biceps bulged. My chest had definition. I felt strong. It was the first time I can remember having a sense of myself. I had done something and no one could ever take it away.

You couldn't say s**t to me. It took me years to fully appreciate the value of the lessons I havelearned from the Iron. I used to think that it was my adversary, that I was trying to lift that which does not want to be lifted. I waswrong. When the Iron doesn't want to come off the mat, it's the kindest thing it can do for you. If it flew up and went through the ceiling, it wouldn't teach you anything. That's the way the Iron talks to you. It tells you that the material you work with is that which you will come to resemble.

That which you work against will always work against you. It wasn't until my late twenties that I learned that by working out I had given myself a great gift. I learned that nothing good comes without work and a certain amount of pain. When I finish a set that leaves me shaking, I know more about myself. When something gets bad, I know it can't be as bad as that workout. I used to fight the pain, but recently this became clear to me: pain is not my enemy; it is my call to greatness. But when dealing with the Iron, one must be careful to interpret the pain correctly. Most injuries involving the Iron come from ego.


I once spent a few weeks lifting weight that my body wasn't ready for and spent a few months not picking up anything heavier than a fork. Try to lift what you're not prepared to and the Iron will teach you a little lesson in restraint and self-control. I have never met a truly strong person who didn't have self-respect. I think a lot of inwardly and outwardly directed contempt passes itself off as self- respect: the idea of raising yourself by stepping on someone's shoulders instead of doing it yourself. When I see guys working out for cosmetic reasons, I see vanity exposing them in the worst way, as cartoon characters, billboards for imbalance and insecurity. Strength reveals itself through character. It is the difference between bouncers who get off strong-arming people and Mr.Pepperman.

Muscle mass does not always equal strength. Strength is kindness and sensitivity. Strength is understanding that your power is both physical and emotional. That it comes from the body and the mind. And the heart. Yukio Mishima said that he could not entertain the idea of romance if he was not strong. Romance is such a strong and overwhelming passion, a weakened body cannot sustain it for long. I have some of my most romantic thoughts when I am with the Iron.

Once I was in love with a woman. I thought about her the most when the pain from a workout was racing through my body. Everything in me wanted her. So much so that sex was only a fraction of my total desire. It was the single most intense love I have ever felt, but she lived far away and I didn't see her very often. Working out was a healthy way of dealing with the loneliness.

To this day, when I work out I usually listen to ballads. I prefer to work out alone. It enables me to concentrate on the lessons that the Iron has for me. Learning about what you're made of is always time well spent, and I have found no better teacher. The Iron had taught me how to live. Life is capable of driving you out of your mind. The way it all comes down these days, it's some kind of miracle if you're not insane. People have become separated from their bodies. They are no longer whole. I see them move from their offices to their cars and on to their suburban homes. They stress out constantly, they lose sleep, they eat badly. And they behave badly. Their egos run wild; they become motivated by that which will eventually give them a massive stroke. They need the Iron Mind.

Through the years, I have combined meditation, action, and the Iron into a single strength. I believe that when the body is strong, the mind thinks strong thoughts. Time spent away from the Iron makes my mind degenerate. I wallow in a thick depression. My body shuts down my mind. The Iron is the best antidepressant I have ever found. There is no better way to fight weakness than with strength. Once the mind and body have been awakened to their true potential, it's impossible to turn back.

The Iron never lies to you. You can walk outside and listen to all kinds of talk, get told that you're a god or a total bastard. The Iron will always kick you the real deal. The Iron is the great reference point, the all-knowing perspective giver. Always there like a beacon in the pitch black. I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds. " -Henry Rollins
:goodpost: Best post ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You have just enlisted yourself in BS's circle of people I repp every time the stupid thing lets me....for life (or until I get banned lol)
 
:goodpost: Best post ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You have just enlisted yourself in BS's circle of people I repp every time the stupid thing lets me....for life (or until I get banned lol)


IRON SAVES LIVES FVCK ALL THE BULLSH!T IN LIFE

A NEW LIFE BEGINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hey what the fcuk?? I just realized you've got 9 pages going on up in hurr and I don't think I've seen a single update on your wo's?? Or maybe I just skipped some sht lol...
Strength increase?
Back pump status?

Those will start next week when wo's start repeating themselves.I'm not anything special strength wise,and even if I was,I feel the most important part is the increases in weight.I hit 80 lbs on incline db presses and got the 15 rest pause reps.I had to slow the negatives down a little more cause I coulda done just a hair more.I bet 85's would of been too much though.....who knows?So last chest wo I knew I shoulda grabbed the 90's for flat,but said fvck it!Lets see what I can do with the 95's,I should of used the 90's.My sq's and deads fell short of pr's,but what do you expect after cutting?Back pumps have been better,they come and go,but never that bad.With DC it takes 2 weeks for exercises to repeat themselves,so it's hard to judge any strength increases right now.Plus I'm a barbell man myself,but dc has me using db's for the most part due to the nature of the training style.I can't wait to test my strength after cycle on some BB's!

That was a nice post heavies.I'm into bb'ing,but like I mentioned earlier,I can't stand guys that are full of themselves.The ones that walk like they're the sh!t and are constantly flexing in the mirror....You know,bench,check abs,curl,check abs.Now act like my sh!t don't stink and i'm the baddest guy in here......
 
O and one more thing I tested out my Scivation Chocolate Whey for ya bro.
1. The bag they sent it in was fcuking ripped and my scale said it was short a LB WTF??
Taste 9/10
Mixability 7/10
Ingredient profile IMO 7/10
Packaging 4/10 (it was in a big crappy plastic baggie inside of a box)

Overall not bad for $60 bucks, I was pissed about the state of my order but I got it from "the other guys" LMAO so it could be their fault.
I would say get some it's pretty good I'm kinda burned out on the whole chocolate/vinila flavours but it's def one of the better ones as far as taste goes.

Thats partially why I didn't want to get 10lbs of chocolate protien.I ordered the cafe mocha elite whey sunday night,and it just shipped yesterday.It was ships in 2-4 business days.That will be a nice change in my shakes of oatmeal,milk,and peanutbutter.Everyone who's said anything about the cafe mocha says it's some good sh!t.I'll let ya know when I get it.I'm using old cheap protien thats over a yr old cause I ran out of the other.I was saving it for a rainy day.....

I keep hearing good things about cissus.Just under $30 at NP for 50 grams of the 50% extract.Saw a study that shows it does increase test while helping greatly with joints and all.
 
Cissus is nuts! I got some to help with my injured wrist and it's recovery quickly. It was a sprain.

Testofen (50% fenugreek) is great for a speedy recovery from a gear cycle, but once your hormones are back up, it's pretty much not going to give much of an effect.
 
I got me a big,long,thick,juicy.....................sirloin bathing in some stubbs steakhouse marinade!Not sure If I'll eat it tonight or tomorrow.:think:I may just make a hamburger pie and let it soak up some more flavor.Although I have another thats thawed as well,and many more frozen.People always freak out over my mountain of aluminum foiled wrapped meat in the freezer....
 
I got me a big,long,thick,juicy.....................sirloin bathing in some stubbs steakhouse marinade!Not sure If I'll eat it tonight or tomorrow.:think:I may just make a hamburger pie and let it soak up some more flavor.Although I have another thats thawed as well,and many more frozen.People always freak out over my mountain of aluminum foiled wrapped meat in the freezer....
I appreciate your being part of swaying me more onto DC training. As a matter of fact, I'm going to spent the next 3 days doing active recovery until Monday when I will pound the new workout regimen. 4 workouts in 8 days deal.

I love the DC dieting principles. I'm getting hungry now while you're talking about marinating steaks!
 
I appreciate your being part of swaying me more onto DC training. As a matter of fact, I'm going to spent the next 3 days doing active recovery until Monday when I will pound the new workout regimen. 4 workouts in 8 days deal.

I love the DC dieting principles. I'm getting hungry now while you're talking about marinating steaks!

No problem man!I absolutely love DC and suggest everyone to look into it.That break will do you wonders.I always take time off before starting a new training style or a designer.I always change my wo's from time to time,but for the first time I feel DC will realy stick.I may customise it here and there from time to time to add a little variety,but I plan on sticking with the DC principles.It's basically power body building,and thats what I feel I need.
 
No problem man!I absolutely love DC and suggest everyone to look into it.That break will do you wonders.I always take time off before starting a new training style or a designer.I always change my wo's from time to time,but for the first time I feel DC will realy stick.I may customise it here and there from time to time to add a little variety,but I plan on sticking with the DC principles.It's basically power body building,and thats what I feel I need.
Look into it yes ;) But everyone should not attempt it... lol. :goodpost:
 
Had another great wo today!I hope like hell to see some increases mon.Everythings fine again today.I'm realy starting to think that taking the ECA on top of 20mg's at once is what messed me up the other day.I took the ECA today with the usuasl 10 grams havoc pre wo,and feel perfectly fine.My preacher bb curls today,fri,were almost the same as my standing bb curls from mon.I fell one rep short on each rest pause set.I always practice very strict form on all my lifts,but you can't help but to sway a little when standing,or maybe accidentally unknowingly leaning back a hair once it starts to get hard.DC is my friend!!!!

Oh yeah!!!!!Come on guys!!!!!!How do you post videos?I searched but didn't find anything.I could of swore ziquor posted a thread asking how to post videos.......
 
Had another great wo today!I hope like hell to see some increases mon.Everythings fine again today.I'm realy starting to think that taking the ECA on top of 20mg's at once is what messed me up the other day.I took the ECA today with the usuasl 10 grams havoc pre wo,and feel perfectly fine.My preacher bb curls today,fri,were almost the same as my standing bb curls from mon.I fell one rep short on each rest pause set.I always practice very strict form on all my lifts,but you can't help but to sway a little when standing,or maybe accidentally unknowingly leaning back a hair once it starts to get hard.DC is my friend!!!!

Oh yeah!!!!!Come on guys!!!!!!How do you post videos?I searched but didn't find anything.I could of swore ziquor posted a thread asking how to post videos.......

I just copy and past the address from my addy bar into the space given when you click on that little button of the world w/ the chain in front.
 
This just motivates the sh!t out of me!!!!I watch it and say"time to eat!!!"If you haven't seen it yet,TG.ENJOY!!!!Call it a late B day present!FOOFAC,call it an early present!


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Thanks for the Yates video Pantera. I have seen it before. I watch youtube all the time! lol There's lots of good training videos there. I like to watch Markus Ruhl, Gunter Schlierkamp, Andreas Frey, and Dennis Wolf. Hey, wait a minute.....they're all German like me. Maybe I'm being somewhat biased. :think: ha ha THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
hey bro, you noticing any weight/strength gain yet using DC?

Well I went from bb's to db's while slowing the negatives down and comming out of a cut........So it's almost impossible to say right now.Wo's will start repeating themselves on Mon,so I will list last weeks weights and reps next to this comming weeks and so on.I was thinking if everything goes well as it is now,I may do 6 weeks to go through all the exercises again cause it takes two weeks to make it through.During PCT I'm going to do straight heavy sets with my lovely BB's!!!!Still keeping the DC principles and all.I just feel the traditional way is too much for PCT.It's basically a cruise,but I'm going to go all out instead of stopping short of failure.I don't want to loose any strength during PCT.
 
You guys know sus500?It's three designer steroids in one,SD,PP,and halodrol.I'm at another site looking at somwething NP doesn't carry,and I see it with 3 reviews.So I check out the reviews and this guys first review is him all mad cause it doesn't give the doses of the compounds.Then his next review is......IDK,responding to someones response or something and he says,well I'm stacking this with SD,so I'll let you know how it goes.......
 
You guys know sus500?It's three designer steroids in one,SD,PP,and halodrol.I'm at another site looking at somwething NP doesn't carry,and I see it with 3 reviews.So I check out the reviews and this guys first review is him all mad cause it doesn't give the doses of the compounds.Then his next review is......IDK,responding to someones response or something and he says,well I'm stacking this with SD,so I'll let you know how it goes.......

Haha, yea well umm this is er my shocked face :sick: lol....fcuking kids these days hu?
 
You guys know sus500?It's three designer steroids in one,SD,PP,and halodrol.I'm at another site looking at somwething NP doesn't carry,and I see it with 3 reviews.So I check out the reviews and this guys first review is him all mad cause it doesn't give the doses of the compounds.Then his next review is......IDK,responding to someones response or something and he says,well I'm stacking this with SD,so I'll let you know how it goes.......
Somebody needs to tell him to melt it all down, suck it up a syringe, and jab it all in his fukkin' @ss!!! Stupid kiddies!!!:fool2: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
Yeah it honestly makes me laugh:lol:I've been forgetting to mention one of my favorite hamstring exercises.You rarely ever see them done,but they are so nice.It's just leg curls with a db between your feet.Stand the db upright and step on it.Then lean forward onto a bench pushing the db over with your shins.Now just curl.Go down as far as you possibly can cause you stop fighting the weight once your lower legs are perpindicualr to the floor.It's a bit of a pain to do,but keep tension on the muscles throughout with the deepest stretch possible,and I promise you will have the most intense ham contractions of your lirfe due to squeezing the db with your feet so it doesn't drop.Mine are sore from yesterday and I used a 45 or 50 lb db.Light weight goes a long ways with this.
 
I was wondering if ya'll had any input on this.two weeks ago I did inc db's with 80lbers and got 8,4,3 restpaused.I slowed some of the already slowed negatives down a little more than usual to not get too many reps.I have to go to 90's next cause one of our 85's is missing the rubber coating thats basically a tire,so it will weigh less than the other.Thats probably as much as I want to increase it huh?I'm not used to using db's,and I've never used havoc,so IDK if it will be in full swing by then or not.It will be day 16.It's kinda hard to judge with DC mixed with havoc.This was two weeks ago with the 80lbers....

EDIT:Yeah i'd have to say that a 10lb increase for each db is plenty.The equivalent to a bb is more than 20lbs....
 
I was wondering if ya'll had any input on this.two weeks ago I did inc db's with 80lbers and got 8,4,3 restpaused.I slowed some of the already slowed negatives down a little more than usual to not get too many reps.I have to go to 90's next cause one of our 85's is missing the rubber coating thats basically a tire,so it will weigh less than the other.Thats probably as much as I want to increase it huh?I'm not used to using db's,and I've never used havoc,so IDK if it will be in full swing by then or not.It will be day 16.It's kinda hard to judge with DC mixed with havoc.This was two weeks ago with the 80lbers....

EDIT:Yeah i'd have to say that a 10lb increase for each db is plenty.The equivalent to a bb is more than 20lbs....

yea bro, use the 90's since you hit the 15 total reps with 80's. you WILL still be able to hit 11 total reps with the 90's no prob.
 
Are you liking the E/C stack with Havoc? My blood pressure would probably be so high that I'd be laying on the bench gasping for air after a set with that... Hawthorn berries? But yeah, I hear you about the straight sets for PCT. Just keep it short and sweet and utilize static holds on your straight sets.
Dose a high amount of beta alanine and a moderate amount of a good creatine, like tri-creatine orotate or Creatine Magnapower (magnesium creatine) and your strength will remain.
 
My BP is definately yo-yoing right now.It was 140/73,or something like that.I'll continue to check it atleast two times a day from here on out.I'm taking 7 pills of HB right now.3 in morning,2 mid day,2 at night.so I'm thinking about dividing the dose one by one to maybe help it stay a little more consistent.I may have to drop the prewo ECA.

On a more positive note,I feel I look fuller and thicker in the mirror.At the gym I have to make myself stop looking in the mirrors:lol:I don't want to appear concieted to others cause I can't stand guys that are full of themselves.I'm sensing good things are fixing to start happening!I want to measure something,but I want to get away from that.It's amazing how much fluctuation can occur.Especially from bulking to cutting and vise versa.Anyone who followed my last log knows I have calmed down like crazy with the damn scale.Anyone who didn't......well it's day 11 now,so you'd have 11 updates on weight so far..........


Dude, you aren't full of yourself because you are looking in the mirror. We are bodybuilders, the whole point it to get bigger and have a better looking physique. If you didn't flex or look in the mirror, you wouldn't know where you stood compared to before. Just don't start winking and pointing to yourself in the mirror. lol.
 
Are you liking the E/C stack with Havoc? My blood pressure would probably be so high that I'd be laying on the bench gasping for air after a set with that... Hawthorn berries? But yeah, I hear you about the straight sets for PCT. Just keep it short and sweet and utilize static holds on your straight sets.
Dose a high amount of beta alanine and a moderate amount of a good creatine, like tri-creatine orotate or Creatine Magnapower (magnesium creatine) and your strength will remain.

I only use ECA pre wo.So I'm taking it M,W,and F.I'm definately using HB.Propbably more than anyone does.It says to take 2 a day,and I'm taking 7,debating going to 8.I need to get more consistent with my cardio first to see what happens.I hate cardio and haven't had the time after weights here lately.It's so easy to dismiss it when you hate it and tell yourself it's better not to do it gains wise.Plus I have a physical job.Then again,I want my gains to be lean,and health is important....
 
Dude, you aren't full of yourself because you are looking in the mirror. We are bodybuilders, the whole point it to get bigger and have a better looking physique. If you didn't flex or look in the mirror, you wouldn't know where you stood compared to before. Just don't start winking and pointing to yourself in the mirror. lol.

Oh I'm just saying in public.You bet your @$$ I check myself out at home!:bb2:
 
I only use ECA pre wo.So I'm taking it M,W,and F.I'm definately using HB.Propbably more than anyone does.It says to take 2 a day,and I'm taking 7,debating going to 8.I need to get more consistent with my cardio first to see what happens.I hate cardio and haven't had the time after weights here lately.It's so easy to dismiss it when you hate it and tell yourself it's better not to do it gains wise.Plus I have a physical job.Then again,I want my gains to be lean,and health is important....
You inspired me when you said in my thread, "I simply can't workout to maintain, knowing that I'm working out to look the same."

Some things people say 'stick'... I got inspired to stop doing the same level of cardio. So I worked my way up and said, "f* this" and just upped the resistance until it felt like I was walking in a swamp with a backback full of coal. At 9 minutes I was dripping with sweat and had to psych myself up to make it through without sluffing off. I was like, "dude, if you drop below 50 RPM, you're going to lose your apartment." then... "dude, you said 16 minutes man... if you cooldown early, your going to lose all of your gains."... then it got to the point where I was delerious (the gym was empty luckily) and I started talking to myself.

Thanks man!
 
You inspired me when you said in my thread, "I simply can't workout to maintain, knowing that I'm working out to look the same."

Some things people say 'stick'... I got inspired to stop doing the same level of cardio. So I worked my way up and said, "f* this" and just upped the resistance until it felt like I was walking in a swamp with a backback full of coal. At 9 minutes I was dripping with sweat and had to psych myself up to make it through without sluffing off. I was like, "dude, if you drop below 50 RPM, you're going to lose your apartment." then... "dude, you said 16 minutes man... if you cooldown early, your going to lose all of your gains."... then it got to the point where I was delerious (the gym was empty luckily) and I started talking to myself.

Thanks man!

Damn man!You about brought a tear to my eye!You just inspired me!(I stopped typing to fire up the grill!!!)Yeah that must of stuck cause it was alittle while ago when I said that...Keep pushing yourself but stay out of the hospital!I can't imagine how far you could go with a little extra inspiration!!!
 
Damn man!You about brought a tear to my eye!You just inspired me!(I stopped typing to fire up the grill!!!)Yeah that must of stuck cause it was alittle while ago when I said that...Keep pushing yourself but stay out of the hospital!I can't imagine how far you could go with a little extra inspiration!!!
Glad it's mutual! I just finished the session now and am drinking/eating my post-workout cocktail. Goat whey protein + white rice + brown sugar (lots of it). I did a real quick active recovery session (fancy word for doing a full-body rundown at about 30% output and volume), but I included the extreme stretches. I did a sick variation of extreme stretching for chest, although I don't want to deviate from the program much. I used a pec flye machine and moved the arms to the reverse flye position, but pulled them forward to a front flye w/ 120lbs. Went to the contraction of the pec flye, then inhaled as much as possible to the chest high/parallel position. Then as I exhaled I lowered the arms into the deepest stretch and held for about a minute where it was painful.... Hell of a combination of PNF stretching and active release!
 
How do you do the rice FOG?Just put it in a blender raw?I have been wondering about using rice to give myself a break from oatmeal.
 
How do you do the rice FOG?Just put it in a blender raw?I have been wondering about using rice to give myself a break from oatmeal.
The BEST pre and post-workout rice is risotte rice. I think that's spelled right. It's full of amylopectin (starchy/sticky substance) and you cook it on the stove top for about 15 minutes... I mix it with sugar or splenda, depending on my carb needs.
 
To any cutters out there,I'm sorry for this.....I have a big chunk of beef fajita meat thawed for tomorrow,two huge sirloins marinating right now,these will be put out on the counter several hours before I cook them to help with flavor and tenderizing,also a bunch of lean 93/7 hamburger,this will be cooked with jalapenos mixed into the meat.All will be grilled.......Jesus christ!I'm going to have trouble sleeping tonight!
 
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