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Pantera's vulgar display of power!!!

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pantera101 said:
It is.I just like the part about blood flow changing from muscles to gut so they can digest the protien/carbs.I have heard this before,so that parts not snags theory.I personally wake up to my morning shake full of carbs and protien.Then when I get to the gym I just sip the xtend,finish the last bit with creatine when done,and then wait a little while as snag suggested.I have done that before though cause I have heard that before.Plus I have heard that bcaa's wil spike insulin levels,so thats good for the creatine transportation.Also some pro's wait 30 minutes after creatine to drink the protien........

But if you aren't after size.......well then count your blessings(<---1)and say fvck it!Who cares!Increase the weight on the bar b!tch!
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Well, that was one of the advantages of WMS from what I understand... It bypasses the gut for the most part because it is absorbed by the body so quickly.

But I've been wrong before...
 
pantera101 said:
I forgot to mention that I had a pump in my shoulders that was just downright painfull this morning!20mg dbol,and/or the 20mg havoc dosed pre wo?I've never had a pump in my shoulders to that extreme before.Let alone from mid to low reped mil press.Not sure why other muscles weren't the same,but they weren't to that extreme.......

Anyways,I upped the dhea to 150 mg today.I have always heard to dose dhea in the mornings.Do you still do that with higher doses?And why?I watched some porn today and yesterday.....so that says something.Loads weren't bad either.Dime had trouble licking all of it off both times...........
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OMG!!!!! I'm having a good fcuking night around here tonight..That's animal abuse I'm pretty sure, but ehh, it's a decent source of protein I guess lol...:food:
 
heavies said:
I switched my entire diet Friday to all red meat/the other white meat with good fats @ 50 -60% of total calories, with a max. 30 gm carbs Mon-Fri

Carb ReLoad on Sat Sun....

& I freaking feel fvcking awesome.......

Birds don't have enough fat in them........
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Yeah! I feel ya on that. Nice! I just bought a lamb leg today. Gonna butterfly it and grill it up
 
Pantera I have meaning to tell you to take the Dbol with grapefruit juice.... GFJ actually causes the drug uptake to be faster..... happy fvcking trails
 
heavies said:
Pantera I have meaning to tell you to take the Dbol with grapefruit juice.... GFJ actually causes the drug uptake to be faster..... happy fvcking trails
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Grapefruit juice reduces the CYP1A2 enzyme, which is responsible for oral roid metabolism. It doesnt speed up the uptake, but reduces how much the liver kills on first pass. So theoretically you could take less of the drug, and get more out of it. Basically making your body work better with your juice.

Adams
 
DAdams91982 said:
Grapefruit juice reduces the CYP1A2 enzyme, which is responsible for oral roid metabolism. It doesnt speed up the uptake, but reduces how much the liver kills on first pass. So theoretically you could take less of the drug, and get more out of it. Basically making your body work better with your juice.

Adams
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The magnitude of inhibition of CYP isoenzymes by grapefruit components appears to be greatest for CYP3A4 and less significant for other CYP isoforms (eg, 1A2, 2C9, and 2C19).
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I was incorrect.... regardless drink grapefruit juice to reduce CYP3A4 and CYP1A2.....
 
heavies said:
IDS has been putting Bergamottin in their stuff for a while to add bio-availability.......
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Yeah, I've noticed that trend is growing outside of IDS also. A lot of the new hormonal supps are starting to include it. It's just cheaper to get white grapefruit juice. Get the 100% unsweetened sh*t!! Don't get pink juice either or that ruby red sh*t. It's not the same from what I've read. Just the bitter-@ss ol' white grapefruit juice. :thumbsup:
 
thundergod said:
Yeah, I've noticed that trend is growing outside of IDS also. A lot of the new hormonal supps are starting to include it. It's just cheaper to get white grapefruit juice. Get the 100% unsweetened sh*t!! Don't get pink juice either or that ruby red sh*t. It's not the same from what I've read. Just the bitter-@ss ol' white grapefruit juice. :thumbsup:
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Haha, you said bitter white juice lol....:icon_lol:
 
Man these headches are killing me!Everythings fine untill the struggling part on certain lifts,or untill I sneeze like today.These damn things are intense for the first few minutes.Then they slowly decrease.I seen a thread on them beofre and the guy was saying it's been 2 weeks and they keep comming back.I'll have to find it again.......I'm ready for PCT due to this,but I'll fight through them.BP was 136/73.I've had 163/80 with no headaches before.Plus like I said,it happened right after sq's the one day.And it comes back just like the guy said,and others agreed with him.

I took 2 dbols yesterday,3 hrs pre wo.Then 1 this morning cause I had an odd #.Tomorrow and fri will be 30mg 3 hrs pre wo.I look fuller in the mirror I noticed today........I see it everywhere,but especially the chest.
 
pantera101 said:
Man these headches are killing me!Everythings fine untill the struggling part on certain lifts,or untill I sneeze like today.These damn things are intense for the first few minutes.Then they slowly decrease.I seen a thread on them beofre and the guy was saying it's been 2 weeks and they keep comming back.I'll have to find it again.......I'm ready for PCT due to this,but I'll fight through them.BP was 136/73.I've had 163/80 with no headaches before.Plus like I said,it happened right after sq's the one day.And it comes back just like the guy said,and others agreed with him.

I took 2 dbols yesterday,3 hrs pre wo.Then 1 this morning cause I had an odd #.Tomorrow and fri will be 30mg 3 hrs pre wo.I look fuller in the mirror I noticed today........I see it everywhere,but especially the chest.
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Not sure if you read my training log from Monday, but I had a massive headache during my workout right after the dose increase. Took extra HB midday between my CS doses, and nothing at all today... Perfect.
 
pantera101 said:
Man these headches are killing me!Everythings fine untill the struggling part on certain lifts,or untill I sneeze like today.These damn things are intense for the first few minutes.Then they slowly decrease.I seen a thread on them beofre and the guy was saying it's been 2 weeks and they keep comming back.I'll have to find it again.......I'm ready for PCT due to this,but I'll fight through them.BP was 136/73.I've had 163/80 with no headaches before.Plus like I said,it happened right after sq's the one day.And it comes back just like the guy said,and others agreed with him.

I took 2 dbols yesterday,3 hrs pre wo.Then 1 this morning cause I had an odd #.Tomorrow and fri will be 30mg 3 hrs pre wo.I look fuller in the mirror I noticed today........I see it everywhere,but especially the chest.
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do you suffer from hay fever or any sinus ailments???
 
pantera101 said:
I just did some research and it's improper breathing that caused it in the first place.
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Remember what 'ol Thunder was just telling you the other day?!! I'm an ex-powerlifter. Not that this means jack-sh*t to anyone. But you must NOT hold your breath on the eccentric (positive) portion of the lift!! Breath in very deeply on the negative, and as you start to push the weight up...breath out forcibly!! Growl, grunt, or fukkin' scream like I do!! But NEVER hold your breath. It can be very dangerous. You can black out...or worse...pop a vessel!! Take care Pantera....and growl no matter what others around you think. PRIMAL SCREAM!!:aargh:
 
PRIMAL SCREAM!![nomedia]http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrDQyNwVOQg[/nomedia]
 
thundergod said:
Remember what 'ol Thunder was just telling you the other day?!! I'm an ex-powerlifter. Not that this means jack-sh*t to anyone. But you must NOT hold your breath on the eccentric (positive) portion of the lift!! Breath in very deeply on the negative, and as you start to push the weight up...breath out forcibly!! Growl, grunt, or fukkin' scream like I do!! But NEVER hold your breath. It can be very dangerous. You can black out...or worse...pop a vessel!! Take care Pantera....and growl no matter what others around you think. PRIMAL SCREAM!!:aargh:
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Yeah thats probably what happened.I've never had the problem before,but at the time I was so determined to finish the 20 reps.I remember when I finished I was thinking to myself that I was almost delusional or pocessed during that set.I will make a consious effort to take note of my breathing this morning,and to so it properly.It's one of those things I don't realy pay attention too.And up untill now,I've never had a problem.
 
IDK guys I had Headaches both times I ran a DS, they were worse with Epi though I had one that lasted for 3 straight days no lie.....I did have sinus problems both times also though IDK but it seems like my sinuses get jacked up from taking the sht so IDK man......My best friend on Epidrol was ASPRIN!!!
 
Todays wo was headache free!Thanks you TG!I just had to make a consious effort to exhale for the entire positive part of the lift.I'm almost positive I have always held it just for the initial take off of the lift.But then exhale right afterwards.So were not talking much time at all,and like I said,I have never had that headache problem before.That last time with the 20 reppers got me just right,or I guess I should say just wrong.At times I could feel the headache trying to hit me today,but it just never went through with it.Now it will be able to heal.I heard some suggest a month off from the gym to let it heal cause it can actually get worse and worse if not.But it's well on it's way now.I even sneezed today and didn't get a headache like yesterday.Take note GMG,I'm very happy I have extended this cycle.The gains are still comming.I just feel the trick is to keep upping the dose.Ofcourse I did take 30mg of dbol today,but still.Next week I will prob go to 70 with havoc,and I will be out of dbol.I will take 30mg pre wo then.

DAY 32,and still gaining!
chins-55lbs-6,2,1--->55lbs(heavier body weight as well)-8,almost 3,1
reverse curls-85-5,2,2--->85-7,3,2
smith calf raises-245-12,9,8--->I did straight sets today,which is actually what you're supposed to do.This first set was all you TG!The pain kicked in way before muscle failure,and mid set I dedicated it to you,and I couldn't let you down.You have inspired me here lately,especially today.Then you "healed" my headache problem.I swear I'm a better person because of you.In and out of the gym!.......enough of the sappy sh!t!!!
Again last week was 245-12,9,8--->275-14(<-TG's set<-)295-9
stiff leg deads-245-4,225-6--->245-10,265-4(these shot up pretty good.I wonder if it was because I didn't do my rack deads Mon as done previously?)
back Sq-255-5,155-20--->275-4,170-20

Again,I'm very happy I extended this cycle.It was def IMO the right decision.Today I had 2 somewhat older guys who can rep 315 on bench tell me I need to slow down cause I'm making them look bad.Then the one jokingly said or atleast cover up more!(I can't rep 315.Shows how important food is!)
 
pantera101 said:
Todays wo was headache free!Thanks you TG!I just had to make a consious effort to exhale for the entire positive part of the lift.I'm almost positive I have always held it just for the initial take off of the lift.But then exhale right afterwards.So were not talking much time at all,and like I said,I have never had that headache problem before.That last time with the 20 reppers got me just right,or I guess I should say just wrong.At times I could feel the headache trying to hit me today,but it just never went through with it.Now it will be able to heal.I heard some suggest a month off from the gym to let it heal cause it can actually get worse and worse if not.But it's well on it's way now.I even sneezed today and didn't get a headache like yesterday.Take note GMG,I'm very happy I have extended this cycle.The gains are still comming.I just feel the trick is to keep upping the dose.Ofcourse I did take 30mg of dbol today,but still.Next week I will prob go to 70 with havoc,and I will be out of dbol.I will take 30mg pre wo then.

DAY 32,and still gaining!
chins-55lbs-6,2,1--->55lbs(heavier body weight as well)-8,almost 3,1
reverse curls-85-5,2,2--->85-7,3,2
smith calf raises-245-12,9,8--->I did straight sets today,which is actually what you're supposed to do.This first set was all you TG!The pain kicked in way before muscle failure,and mid set I dedicated it to you,and I couldn't let you down.You have inspired me here lately,especially today.Then you "healed" my headache problem.I swear I'm a better person because of you.In and out of the gym!.......enough of the sappy sh!t!!!
Again last week was 245-12,9,8--->275-14(<-TG's set<-)295-9
stiff leg deads-245-4,225-6--->245-10,265-4(these shot up pretty good.I wonder if it was because I didn't do my rack deads Mon as done previously?)
back Sq-255-5,155-20--->275-4,170-20

Again,I'm very happy I extended this cycle.It was def IMO the right decision.Today I had 2 somewhat older guys who can rep 315 on bench tell me I need to slow down cause I'm making them look bad.Then the one jokingly said or atleast cover up more!(I can't rep 315.Shows how important food is!)
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Nice but WTF???? Go max your bench I bet you can hit 315lbs fcuk I did it........so I know you could hit it. It wasn't even heavy:lol: OK it was real fcuking heavy but still not as heavy as my will!!
 
BlackSheep said:
Nice but WTF???? Go max your bench I bet you can hit 315lbs fcuk I did it........so I know you could hit it. It wasn't even heavy:lol: OK it was real fcuking heavy but still not as heavy as my will!!
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I will do low reps with bb's during PCT.I def couldn't rep 315.I have had my max,according to the charts,up to 255 I believe.That was a while ago though.I used to hit 255 regularly for 4 rep sq's,and I hit 275 today for 4.So my max bench may be 275 now.....I realy have no clue though.Been using them damn db's!!!
 
pantera101 said:
Todays wo was headache free!Thanks you TG!B]-85-5,2,2--->85-7,3,2
smith calf raises-245-12,9,8--->I did straight sets today,which is actually what you're supposed to do.This first set was all you TG!The pain kicked in way before muscle failure,and mid set I dedicated it to you,and I couldn't let you down.You have inspired me here lately,especially today.Then you "healed" my headache problem.I swear I'm a better person because of you.In and out of the gym!.......enough of the sappy sh!t!!!
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Man, I'm so happy right now....I believe I could cry!! What you have just said makes the heart of the Thundergod soar with joy unrivaled!! I am indebted to you for the power that I possess. As I have said before,"THERE EXISTS NO GODS...BUT FOR THE FAITH OF MORTALS!!" YOU inspire me brother Pantera. I refuse to let YOU down!! THE WEILDER OF MJOLNIR (MY MYSTIC MALLET) MUST BE MIGHTY!!:hammer::head:
 
BlackSheep said:
You guys start holding hands and walking down the beach I'm outta here.......just saying lol......I luhh ya'll tu...
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UND EYE LUB YOO TUE!! Fo rizzle...and dat ain't no shizzle!!! :head:
 
I decided to take 70mgs today.I have been taking one every 2 hrs.I don't know if it's just the day or what,but I was getting very pi$$ed here lately today.But it's just been building all day.I have never experienced rage from a designer,and doubt I will with test even.Although I did get pretty amped earlier today.I'll do 30mg havoc pre wo tomorrow,with the 30mg dbol to finish that off.Then on sun or mon,I will go to 80,and take 40mg havoc pre wo.......Fvck it all!!!!!!
 
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