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P-Plex, what to expect and PCT question...

tinyrob

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hi everyone.

wrapped up a MMv2/M1D stack a bit ago, hungry for some more!

heard through the grapevine that CEL was putting out some good stuff, decided to go with P-Plex. M-Drol was tempting, but from what i read P-Plex had a little less going on in terms of bad sides (at perhaps the expense of not as much gain)...so anyway, i ordered P-Plex and some Reversitol for PCT.

i got my hands on some M1T back when i was 18, didnt really do my research, etc. didnt do any PCT (...didnt do my research...) and i came out ok from it.

recently i ran LG's MMv2 and M1D at 5/day and 6/day, respectively, for about 28days, then rolled into another bottle of M1D at 6/day. I asked some of their reps and i was told their product T911 would be good for PCT. did that, and im all good so far.

so now im planning something to start in June, this is where P-Plex comes in.

through all the searching it seems like P-Plex maybe falls between H-Drol and M-Drol in terms of gains, and like i said, i gathered less sides than M-Drol. other than that, theres not a whole lot of talk about P-Plex itself. a lot of people seem to stack it with something or other, or use it to bridge into something stronger.

Can anyone give me some feedback on just P-Plex itself, what i should expect from it?

im 5'8" 207lbs right now. im not ripped, but im not tubby either. being real, id put myself at 17-18% bf. i feel like a newbie saying this, but id like to fill out to 220lbs without gaining much fat. is this unrealistic to expect from the p-plex?

also, seeing as i have 90 caps of 10mg, i figured i would run 4 weeks at 30mg/day. or would 20/30/30/40 be better?

all these questions i have...

for PCT, like i said i bought Reversitol. im about a month away from even starting, but i knew i wanted the pplex and Rever., so i bought those, but was hoping i could get some educated opinions on anything else i would need to ensure i dont get any gyno. i realize that with these things there are more serious sides than gyno, but i can deal with the temporary raised bp and things like that. gyno on the other hand, that is still present long after bp and hormones and such are back to normal, is not something i want.

so, please help me out!
 
Pplex is very androgenic,.. I would definitely use a SERM.
 
sorry guys, i cant use a serm. besides the fact that i feel like everyone and their brother jumps to say "you need a serm" because its like the in thing to do these days, i need to stay legal (i dont mean that as a shot at anyone, but people are quick to say "you need a serm" for very mild things that definitely dont need serms, so its hard to weed through all that). with that in mind, and the fact that ive already purchased the reversitol, ideas on PCT?
 
tinyrob said:
sorry guys, i cant use a serm. besides the fact that i feel like everyone and their brother jumps to say "you need a serm" because its like the in thing to do these days, i need to stay legal (i dont mean that as a shot at anyone, but people are quick to say "you need a serm" for very mild things that definitely dont need serms, so its hard to weed through all that). with that in mind, and the fact that ive already purchased the reversitol, ideas on PCT?
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It's not a recent thing people have jumped on... Legal or not, you are taking a strong AAS and for proper recovery you might need it. Just because phera is legal doesn't mean it's not strong and can shut you natural test production down. It may not be needed but should be onhand just incase. Maybe you should look at hdrol or epi/havoc.
 
I understand your conundrum tr,.. but what happens if you get a pea sized lump under your nip? The SERM matrix in reversitol is good, but it will NOT get rid of gyno. I'm no expert, I don't want to disagree,.. just be prepared for any and everything!
 
is there something i can run either during the P-Plex or as part of my PCT to lessen the chances of gyno even further? I hear 6-oxo a lot for other products and inhibit-E...any thoughts?
 
i've been working out for about three years now. i'm 20 yrs old and i'm stuck at 141 i can't seem to gain weight. how old should i start taking a ph or ps? or what can i do to gain some major weight?
 
tinyrob said:
is there something i can run either during the P-Plex or as part of my PCT to lessen the chances of gyno even further? I hear 6-oxo a lot for other products and inhibit-E...any thoughts?
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Topical Formestane would be the best choice for on cycle...followed by a low dose Inhibit e

mick09larm said:
i've been working out for about three years now. i'm 20 yrs old and i'm stuck at 141 i can't seem to gain weight. how old should i start taking a ph or ps? or what can i do to gain some major weight?
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I recommend you stay w/ non-ph products..maybe HDX2/Mass fx or something like that.
Do you keep track of your diet /calories thru the day?? Alot of people i know use Fitday.com to track their diet
 
mick09larm said:
i've been working out for about three years now. i'm 20 yrs old and i'm stuck at 141 i can't seem to gain weight. how old should i start taking a ph or ps? or what can i do to gain some major weight?
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DIET!!! Enough said. Start a food log. Most problems with gaining esp at your weight is not enough cals. Get on a good 6-8 meal diet.
 
thanks mw1. i wasnt familiar with "topical form" as you called it before. searched in the nutraplanet store and found nothing, ill see what i can find on topical formestane.

thanks, and thanks to everyone else too
 
I did a full cycle of Pplex. No sides at all. Just used Novedex XT by Gespari along with CEL's PCT assist. My strength went up, but in all honesty, I did not gain size or weight.
 
n5605r said:
I did a full cycle of Pplex. No sides at all. Just used Novedex XT by Gespari along with CEL's PCT assist. My strength went up, but in all honesty, I did not gain size or weight.
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Yea i think we discussed what (major) problem was during your cycle but i am surprised you did not gain that much the last wek and a half
 
Me too, but overall, I am ecstatic at the strength gains that I have kept, so in that regard, the cycle was a success. I think I just need to tweak a few things next time and take a longer time off between cycles. Here's the strange part, I seem to be putting on size now, two weeks off the cycle. Go figure...
 
tinyrob said:
Can anyone give me some feedback on just P-Plex itself, what i should expect from it?

im 5'8" 207lbs right now. im not ripped, but im not tubby either. being real, id put myself at 17-18% bf. i feel like a newbie saying this, but id like to fill out to 220lbs without gaining much fat. is this unrealistic to expect from the p-plex?

also, seeing as i have 90 caps of 10mg, i figured i would run 4 weeks at 30mg/day. or would 20/30/30/40 be better?

all these questions i have...

for PCT, like i said i bought Reversitol. im about a month away from even starting, but i knew i wanted the pplex and Rever., so i bought those, but was hoping i could get some educated opinions on anything else i would need to ensure i dont get any gyno. i realize that with these things there are more serious sides than gyno, but i can deal with the temporary raised bp and things like that. gyno on the other hand, that is still present long after bp and hormones and such are back to normal, is not something i want.

so, please help me out!
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For me, P-Plex is good for bulking and strength gains.

I think that the results you want are possible if proper diet and training is in place.

I would run 20 mg for two to three days, then bump to 30 mg per day for the rest of the cycle.

You should use our Cycle Assist while on cycle for support purposes. Space your dosage out 4 hours away from your P-Plex dosage.

My personal PCT is Inhibit-E and Liver Assist by SNS along with PCT Assist by us. I prefer Inhibit over the Resv because I am not a fan of propietary blended anti-estrogens.

tinyrob said:
sorry guys, i cant use a serm. besides the fact that i feel like everyone and their brother jumps to say "you need a serm" because its like the in thing to do these days, i need to stay legal (i dont mean that as a shot at anyone, but people are quick to say "you need a serm" for very mild things that definitely dont need serms, so its hard to weed through all that). with that in mind, and the fact that ive already purchased the reversitol, ideas on PCT?
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I am not a fan of using a SERM myself unless absolutely necessary. While keeping one on hand isnt a bad idea, there are alot of sides associated with them that many people overlook.

I have never personally had to use a SERM.

Said my piece about my personal PCT above and why I choose the route I go.

tinyrob said:
is there something i can run either during the P-Plex or as part of my PCT to lessen the chances of gyno even further? I hear 6-oxo a lot for other products and inhibit-E...any thoughts?
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You could run our topical formestane while on your P-Plex cycle. You may not gain as much total weight because you will not hold as much water, but it should make an excellent stack. See our Formestane write up for on cycle dosage instructions. (It is a sticky in this subforum).

Again, I would do the Inhibit-E for my PCT if I did the topical Formestane on cycle.

mick09larm said:
i've been working out for about three years now. i'm 20 yrs old and i'm stuck at 141 i can't seem to gain weight. how old should i start taking a ph or ps? or what can i do to gain some major weight?
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At your age, focus on diet and training. Do not use ph's.

If you are stuck at that weight, look at your diet and make adjustments.
 
thanks everyone. was without internet for a few days. ill report back after the cycle and let you all know how it goes.
 
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