P-Plex General ?'s (first cycle)

younganabolic

younganabolic

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This will be my first experience with a ph. I recently purchased m-drol and p-plex with a friend, but I want to get some experienced advice before I start putting this stuff in my body. I was originally going to stack them, but then figured I would make more gains running them separately. Plus, this is my first experience so I'd rather not make it unpleasant with side effects, etc.. I am about 170lbs give or take (I have been on creatine for a few months so I am still losing water weight), I'm 5'10", bf percentage est. about 13ish%, bench about 325lbs. I have the strength but I struggle with gaining mass. I've been working out for about 4 years. I have done my research, but I am still uncertain in a few areas, mainly pct. I'd rather be safe than sorry, money is not particularly tight, and I am not in a rush.

Here is my plan:
Cycle Assist before, during, and after the cycle. My friends who have done it tell me that milk thistle, which is in the Cycle Assist, inhibits results. Any truth to that? I figure I will risk the 2 or 3lb loss and spare my liver.
Cycle:
week 1: 20mg
week 2: 20mg
week 3: 30mg
week 4: 30 or 40mg - Is it necessary/wise to go to 40mg and to taper down?

PCT:
Cycle Assist, Reduce XT (necessary?), Blue Up, Liquid Tamox (40/40/20/20)

Please comment, criticize, critique, anything to help. I am open to suggestions and by NO MEANS am I an expert with any of this stuff. Thank you for your patience and time.

- YoungAnabolic
 
From what I'm seeing, everything looks in check mate! Cycle looks good and your gonna love the way you feel on P-Plex, kinda euphoric. Good work! And when you take the milk thistle, take it a few hours away from you dosing of the p-plex...
 
Ok, thanks. But when do I start taking the Blue Up? As soon as I'm finished with the P-Plex, or a few weeks after?

-YoungAnabolic
 
My friends also tell me to taper P-Plex. Like 10/20/30/20 or something of that nature. I don't see the point in doing that since your test will be so high either way. Is there any sense in that?

-YoungAnabolic
 
1. Id start pplex no less than 30mg.

2. Id keep reduxe xt in pct for cortisol control

3. I wasnt a fan of Blue up, CEL PCT assist is what I reccomend from experience as a test booster.

other than that looks good unless i missed something :thumbsup:
 
Id go 20 30 30 40 since this is your first cycle. use the MT in your pct, not during, it may inhibit gains. I would reccomend milk thistle at about 1000mg/ed saw palmetto at about 700-800mg ed and the liquid tamox dosage you posted is fine (be sure to account for the weight of the citrate attached to keep fom underdoseing) the other stuff is just fluff in my book and totally unneeded
 
younganabolic said:
My friends also tell me to taper P-Plex. Like 10/20/30/20 or something of that nature. I don't see the point in doing that since your test will be so high either way. Is there any sense in that?

-YoungAnabolic
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Dont taper it down. And yes, PCT starts day after last dose. Yes, start at 20mg.. 20/30/30 and 40 if gains start to subside..
 
Thanks for all the help guys. One more question though, do I take the Nolva, test booster, and the cort control, the day after I'm done with my cycle? Or, for example, do I start the Nolva directly after for a week, then add in the test boost and cort control? I apologize if I'm being a little too wary lol. Thanks for all your time I really do appreciate it.

-YoungAnabolic
 
younganabolic said:
Thanks for all the help guys. One more question though, do I take the Nolva, test booster, and the cort control, the day after I'm done with my cycle? Or, for example, do I start the Nolva directly after for a week, then add in the test boost and cort control? I apologize if I'm being a little too wary lol. Thanks for all your time I really do appreciate it.

-YoungAnabolic
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Nolva and the Natty Test booster the day after your last dose. Cortisol control the beginning of your third week of PCT.
 
Another question regarding p plex: Should I run any cardio while on cycle? My friends tell me the ideal thing to do would be: stay in bed, eat all day, go to the gym and lift - meaning definitely no cardio. But I read posts from people who do cardio while on ph's, not necessarily pplex. Haven't started my cycle yet due to some availability problems with the tamox but I should be starting in 4 or 5 days. By the way, I did lose 3-4 lbs in water weight from stopping the creatine mono, but started eating more and training differently and I'm about 179 now same bf%. So, anyways should be interesting. I'm hoping I will see good results and I'll definitely be posting a log with pics, etc and so on.
Thanks again for all time and help.

-YoungAnabolic
 
No cardio on p-plex, you will have the worst shin splints and calf pumps ever.. It hurts my 2 mile time a tad for the APFT... IMO
 
younganabolic said:
Another question regarding p plex: Should I run any cardio while on cycle? My friends tell me the ideal thing to do would be: stay in bed, eat all day, go to the gym and lift - meaning definitely no cardio. But I read posts from people who do cardio while on ph's, not necessarily pplex. Haven't started my cycle yet due to some availability problems with the tamox but I should be starting in 4 or 5 days. By the way, I did lose 3-4 lbs in water weight from stopping the creatine mono, but started eating more and training differently and I'm about 179 now same bf%. So, anyways should be interesting. I'm hoping I will see good results and I'll definitely be posting a log with pics, etc and so on.
Thanks again for all time and help.

-YoungAnabolic
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Cardio should definately be minimum, but if u are gaining alot of fat, first try reducing carbs, and if that isn't good enough, walk for 30 minutes 3 times a week on 1 incline on the treadmill.
 
Ok, thanks. I will be starting as soon as my nolva gets here, hopefully in a few days. If anyone has any last minute suggestions I'm all ears. I plan to eat about 4000+ cals a day on a mass building diet, along with a mass building routine. All help is appreciated!

-YoungAnabolic
 
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