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OTC PCT for 1-andro/4-andro

Ebbentham

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About two weeks left before my cycle is complete and was wondering if it would be OK to just run an OTC PCT OR do I have to get Clomid/Nolva? First cycle however I've had no sides
Currently 300mgs of each along with OTC on-cycle support .
Thanks!
 
You def want a true SERM, 4 andro is wet and that and 1 are powerful combo.
 
You should always use a SERM, no matter how harsh the compound is.

You can run an OTC product, in addition to a SERM, but it should not be ran in place of a SERM. For OTC products, I like both Sup3r PCT and AlphaMax XT. Both are great all in one options. By that, I mean AlphaMax XT contains an AI to help control cortisol, ashwagandha to help boost testosterone and reduce cortisol, l-dopa to control prolactin and 3,4 dinavil to increase testosterone.

Both those are options are more convenient than purchasing one product to boost testosterone, another for prolactin, a separate AI, etc.
 
Awesome, thanks for the fast responses and recommendations. Will start searching for a reputable seller of Nolva...
 
Being "Shutdown" ie. a Suppressed HPT(G)A is a "side". SERMs give you a better and quicker chance at full recovery and keeping what you gained. You should have already had the SERM before starting. Can/Will you recover with nothing at all or OTC plants? Maybe/Probably. As quick as a SERM? Heck f'n no. You took drugs, so take more to recover as fast and completely as possible.
 
My last PCT was for a Epi, 1, and 4 andro 8 week run, PCT was Nolva 20/20/10/10 Sup3r PCT and Sustain Alpha. Felt great and even hit a bench max in PCT.
 
No problem, use code Sep20 on bps website for 20% off Sustain Alpha and a chance to win $100 store credit. Also if you want grab some Androcrine (transdermal laxogenin) to run with PCT as a little anabolic boost...

That PR I mentioned was 335 on bench...so you better keep busting your ass in the gym after cycle bro! :D :)
 
Ebbentham said:
Jesus I'll never hit that.. I'm at 240 on a smith machine
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You'll get there bro! Through hard work and maybe a lil "juice" or "juice derivative" all things are possible lol
 
Yup, snag a SERM.
I used clomid from CEM, a sponsored site here on AM, and everything worked out great. I also stacked it with OL Sup3r PCT, and Chaos & Pains Legendary to make sure I keep my gains. Im over a month out, and everything is 100% good, Im even stronger then I was on cycle.
 
Joe12 said:
Yup, snag a SERM.
I used clomid from CEM, a sponsored site here on AM, and everything worked out great. I also stacked it with OL Sup3r PCT, and Chaos & Pains Legendary to make sure I keep my gains. Im over a month out, and everything is 100% good, Im even stronger then I was on cycle.
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Joey!!! How you been man?
 
lifted67 said:
Joey!!! How you been man?
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Good bro, just coming off vacation!
Been thinking about my winter run, Im tossing around the idea of running OL 1&EPI. Was also looking into HI-tech products, they are a little more affordable. Any recommendations? Im going to attempt a lean bulk, I just went ape sh-t with the food on my last bulk so Im leaning towards dry compounds.
 
Joe12 said:
Good bro, just coming off vacation!
Been thinking about my winter run, Im tossing around the idea of running OL 1&EPI. Was also looking into HI-tech products, they are a little more affordable. Any recommendations? Im going to attempt a lean bulk, I just went ape sh-t with the food on my last bulk so Im leaning towards dry compounds.
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Lol that dirty bulk life. I hear ya, I'm getting closer to my 10% prebulk goal then on the 12th I am running Sparta Mass 4 weeks, TD Trest (2 weeks into cycle for a total of 6 weeks) oral Trest (1 tab PW 2 weeks in for 6 weeks) then Cerberus for 4 weeks. Hoping to get at least 10-13 pounds LBM added on, it'll be a wet cycle so I need to watch how dirty my eating gets. Hoping to add Dermacrine in the first month as a base but I need to see what wallet holds...that's just the cycle, still trying to figure out my PCT.

If you want to go dry Epidrone by BPS is an Epiandro-Epicat blend that'll run dry for sure. Sep20 will get you 20% off on the site plus a chance to win $100 credit.
 
Kind of off topic, but I stopped keeping up with the new compounds once all the good ones got banned a few years ago. How does 1-andro/4-andro or any of the ones lifted67 compare to something like the old epi?
 
Honestly lots of people say how weak they are now but I did an 8 week run of 1+4 at 330/day and added in 6 weeks(simultaneously) of Epi at 400/day and these were my results so I won't complain at all.Invalid Link Removed
 
Yes
 
Using it again for my next run on the 12th
 
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