Ostarine still a good sarm?

Toff

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couple of years ago i had a full cycle of ostar1ne from olympus and it was well tolerated at a modest 5mg a day

i was thinking as im getting slow progress and poor feedback from my usual natty supps it might be worth upping the game and trying again

unless theres something better?

has the safety profile been worked on? its been in research over 10 years
 
I also think less then 20mg of any sarm is a total waste of time for the majority of people. There's only 1 person I've ever seen show a respectable before and after on low dose sarms and he was already jacked in the past so it's a lot of muscle memory. All the rest of the guys I see saying 5 0r 10mg usually weight like 150lbs and say there cycle was great but there pictures show no visible progress. That's not directed at op or anyone in particular. 5-10mg of sarms... you mine as well just use creatine and not mess with your hormones
 
I had a more than reasonable response to EPG Ostagenin back in the day, and soon after that EPG Ostalean. Ever since those products, I have questioned my sources but didn’t get much of anything out of it except for side effects.
 
Ricky10 said:
I had a more than reasonable response to EPG Ostagenin back in the day, and soon after that EPG Ostalean. Ever since those products, I have questioned my sources but didn’t get much of anything out of it except for side effects.
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I remember when Osta came out a lot of places were just putting low doses of DBol in there. It was cheaper and actually did a little something. I saw something running Osta back in the day at 40mg a day for 8 weeks but I also finished up completely suppressed with nuts like raisins and have no proof of what was actually in the product. Either way it took a pretty good dose to see decent results.

As far as SARMS for a "beginner" Either LGD, or RAD140 are decent options in my opinion. Again like @Smont said the doses will need to be higher and if you are freaked out at the thought of increasing it to an effective dose you probably should not be messing with hormonal products. You need to be okay with the fact your first effective cycle could land you on TRT for the rest of your life. It is not common but it can happen. Same with the possibility of developing gyno. If you are not settled with the risk on those things then I would stick to natty stuff. You will likely be a nervous wreck and not be able to enjoy your cycle due to the paranoia of dreading those possibilities throughout your cycle. Something like epiandro might be okay but you aren't likely to grow much from that just get a little stronger, and help with hardening up on a cut.
 
Ricky10 said:
I had a more than reasonable response to EPG Ostagenin back in the day, and soon after that EPG Ostalean. Ever since those products, I have questioned my sources but didn’t get much of anything out of it except for side effects.
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I'm 190% positive that most of the OG Sarms products were spiked with prohormones
 
nikosktm said:
at 600 mg for two months didnt use any serm.. actually i stacked test booster with epiandro and was amazing. m test +stanoplex 300 is a great stack
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Just a heads up, the test booster did nothing you just flushed that money down the toilet by stacking it with epiandro
 
I'm not saying that that particular test booster is a bad product,. It's a great product but stacking a test booster with something hormonal, the test booster does nothing
 
BillD said:
What pct for Epiandro? Serm overkill?
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Either use a serm or don't bother. Otc test boosters cost more money then a serm and in the situation your testosterone actually shutdown, the test booster isint going to be effective. Otc and pct should never be in the same sentence. Otc products are what you add to a pct/serm.

Serms and hcg are pct products. Otc supplements are exactly that. Something to "supplement" your serm and or hcg.
 
Smont said:
The first product that was a lgd/mk677 combo, i wont say tbe companyname but i think you know whatim talking about, **** worked like SD lol. Dosent even make sense.
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Yes, I do. The SARM type products definitely got much better feedback when they first busted onto the scene back then. I don’t picture myself ever doing a SARM again. Too much disappointment. I’m definitely not opposed to MK-677 though or Cardarine.
 
Ricky10 said:
Yes, I do. The SARM type products definitely got much better feedback when they first busted onto the scene back then. I don’t picture myself ever doing a SARM again. Too much disappointment. I’m definitely not opposed to MK-677 though or Cardarine.
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S23 and lgd I like, but I use doses that you would consider normal for traditional oral steroids. 30-50mg a day. I also perfer the injectable versions but daily injections on top of my normal gear injections gets old really fast lol
 
Smont said:
S23 and lgd I like, but I use doses that you would consider normal for traditional oral steroids. 30-50mg a day. I also perfer the injectable versions but daily injections on top of my normal gear injections gets old really fast lol
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Do you think injectable lgd would be as good as injectable dbol for size and strength? I wouldn't be opposed to trying that in the off-season instead of deploying an oral
 
Smont said:
S23 and lgd I like, but I use doses that you would consider normal for traditional oral steroids. 30-50mg a day. I also perfer the injectable versions but daily injections on top of my normal gear injections gets old really fast lol
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I do like daily injections- I do small volume. I am on my 3rd source of test (1 Cyp, 2 Enan) and I just feel more stable and my body handles it better. When I started, I was doing a more traditional twice per week dosing at higher volume and I got real bad sides and felt like 💩. Now that I have worked in other things, it just gets challenging to rotate injection sites effectively. I do pecs, shoulders, and my ass. I had some initial luck with my quads but I ended up hitting a nerve or blood vessel one too many times. Now it just gives me too much anxiety. Still learning though..
 
Ricky10 said:
I do like daily injections- I do small volume. I am on my 3rd source of test (1 Cyp, 2 Enan) and I just feel more stable and my body handles it better. When I started, I was doing a more traditional twice per week dosing at higher volume and I got real bad sides and felt like 💩. Now that I have worked in other things, it just gets challenging to rotate injection sites effectively. I do pecs, shoulders, and my ass. I had some initial luck with my quads but I ended up hitting a nerve or blood vessel one too many times. Now it just gives me too much anxiety. Still learning though..
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Ya but I'm talking about 0.7 to 1ml a day of these sarms. Quads are tough for me too. I got one spot I like that's more side of the leg then actually quad but still technically the quad
 
Smont said:
Ya but I'm talking about 0.7 to 1ml a day of these sarms. Quads are tough for me too. I got one spot I like that's more side of the leg then actually quad but still technically the quad
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Yeah, I have to investigate the quad landmarks a bit more before I attempt them again. But it’s probably worth the investment to open up more real estate. I just slin-pin. I started off with TRT type injection recommendations with the harpoons. That was friggin ridiculous.
 
interesting you mention the OG products as I was on ostar1ne and did actually end up at a hormone clinic!

Is there any data on prostate on epi andro? short cycles may not be as bad?

i used to actually put this on my wanger and balls back iin the day, it used to feel amazing all day
 
Yep epiandro would be a much better choice, ostarine is generally frowned upon now on this forum.
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I haven't kept up with the research, so wanted to ask why this is the case?
if you want something mild better try epiandro . ostarine is toxic and garbage
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Is there new research that shows Ostarine toxicity?
 
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