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Ostarine Questions

blacklac said:
Considering the reason Osta was developed, I dont think its supposed to effect your hair. Although, its obviously not a perfect drug.



If you are really concerned with hair loss, you should basically avoid hormonals. You'll lose hair just stressing over what you can or can't run. ;)
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and i wont enjoy my cycle too if im too streesd over it..allright man ill think about it a little longer befor i start anything..
 
Well there certainly are some compounds known to be worse than others. Osta is not notorious for it but we are still learning about osta and it's side effects as more and more people use it. As blacklac said you should avoid hormonals if hair is of the utmost concern to you.
 
Fit1962 said:
Got my lab results this morning, so at 52yrs old my test came back at 575. I guess that's not too bad for my age.
Started my Ostarine this morning.
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Not bad at all.
 
Fit1962 said:
So I'm going to run the ostarine at 15mg for 6 weeks. Should I get blood work done again right after or go ahead and run clomid for 4 weeks after, then blood?
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Right after, you can start running the clomid the day after your last ostarine dose. It's not really going to skew your bloodwork that early on in pct.
 
PARASXOS said:
guys has anyone noticed any hair loss with osta?im ready to begin my cycle and thats my only concern...goal isnt anything spectacular,thats why i chose osta..
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My hair has thinned a little. It's not bad , I can notice though. It could be because in approaching 30yrs.
 
I would point out, the first 4 weeks of osta where good, the next 4 weeks only gave problems, bloat, lower erection quality etc... . If I use it again, I`d stick to 4 weeks.

After over a month of using brawn atd (same as old erase) started with 25x4 daily, tapered down to 3, 2,1. I alos addded 250mg x 2 of L dopa(98%) daily... and that definitly took care of prolactin issues in a few days, actually after just taking 1, I felt it...down there ;-)


Also, after getting estrogen and prolactin down, I get harder and more vascular than on a cycle, so for me, it seems getting those to hormones in check, does wonders. Training eod, instead of 5-7 days a week, put my total test levels in the top range, and free test at near max levels, so I kinda think I have been overtraining for 10 years!

Trying X factor now, finally availbe where I live, doing 3-4 caps a day. Expensive though for high dosages...
 
woodbear said:
I would point out, the first 4 weeks of osta where good, the next 4 weeks only gave problems, bloat, lower erection quality etc... . If I use it again, I`d stick to 4 weeks. After over a month of using brawn atd (same as old erase) started with 25x4 daily, tapered down to 3, 2,1. I alos addded 250mg x 2 of L dopa(98%) daily... and that definitly took care of prolactin issues in a few days, actually after just taking 1, I felt it...down there ;-) Also, after getting estrogen and prolactin down, I get harder and more vascular than on a cycle, so for me, it seems getting those to hormones in check, does wonders. Training eod, instead of 5-7 days a week, put my total test levels in the top range, and free test at near max levels, so I kinda think I have been overtraining for 10 years! Trying X factor now, finally availbe where I live, doing 3-4 caps a day. Expensive though for high dosages...
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Thanks.

As for XFA there has also been a recommended dosage of 6 caps pre and 0 on your rest days.

I train 5 days and followed that protocol. Cycle went a little quicker that way though.
 
I now train eod,(push/pull/legs) average 3-4 times per week, or like 7 times over 14 days..

I did som research, going to start at 4 caps along with preworkout before hitting the gym.

Saw on other boards that even 3 caps before training, just 3times per week gave guys great results... taking daily is a waste of money.
 
did anyone experience elevated blood pressure ?
I am now 1 week into my planned 8 week osta cycle at 20mg and I fear I have daily headaches but I am not sure yet if I can link it to the osta.
Also started dermacrine yesterday - guys what exactly is "a pump". is it a full pump like pressing the dispenser full "range of motion" or just a slight pump ? It does make a difference when dosing ...
 
bomb said:
did anyone experience elevated blood pressure ?
I am now 1 week into my planned 8 week osta cycle at 20mg and I fear I have daily headaches but I am not sure yet if I can link it to the osta.
Also started dermacrine yesterday - guys what exactly is "a pump". is it a full pump like pressing the dispenser full "range of motion" or just a slight pump ? It does make a difference when dosing ...
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One person noted it iirc. Not extreme BP elevation but notable.
 
Just to let everyone know, I've just completed 5 weeks at 30mg.
Stopped due to heavy suppression and it just wasn't worth the risk/reward to continue.
In day 2 of PCT with Torem at 120mg, going to go down to 90 for the second, 60 for the third and 30 for the last.
Guys, this stuff is serious and it will suppress you. Just because it's "semi-natty" or can still be talked about in the supplementation section does not mean it should be taken lightly.
Proper PCT is a must if you want to be back up and running physiologically and psychologically after your cycle.
 
The Engineer said:
Just to let everyone know, I've just completed 5 weeks at 30mg. Stopped due to heavy suppression and it just wasn't worth the risk/reward to continue. In day 2 of PCT with Torem at 120mg, going to go down to 90 for the second, 60 for the third and 30 for the last. Guys, this stuff is serious and this stuff will suppress you. Just because it's "semi-natty" or can still be talked about in the supplementation section does not mean it should be taken lightly. Proper PCT is a must if you want to be back up and running after your cycle.
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Kindly advise how you knew you became heavily suppressed. (For my reference)
 
jarod86 said:
Kindly advise how you knew you became heavily suppressed. (For my reference)
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Balls shrunk.
Complete loss of libido.
Subpar erections.
No motivation to train whatsoever.
Crushing lethargy.
Painful brain fog. I could barely think. Having to study for exams sucked.
Feelings of being off.
Extremely moody.
Uncontrollable estrogen bloat.

Went into PCT yesterday and it was like night and day.
 
Not pointing fingers at anyone, this is just general..

But we all know Osta is suppressive, so why do people still use it in pct??

Why do they complain when there suppressed or shutdown?

Side effects are part of the game, if you don't want them, dont use the products.. Kind of tired of hearing the complaining and whining..
 
The Engineer said:
Balls shrunk. Complete loss of libido. Subpar erections. No motivation to train whatsoever. Crushing lethargy. Painful brain fog. I could barely think. Having to study for exams sucked. Feelings of being off. Extremely moody. Uncontrollable estrogen bloat. Went into PCT yesterday and it was like night and day.
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I'm getting a lot of that now but I'm in week 4 at 20mg started getting lots of bloat and puffier nipples. So far research aromasin isn't doing the trick so I might drop it and go into pct
 
Goliath1 said:
Not pointing fingers at anyone, this is just general..

But we all know Osta is suppressive, so why do people still use it in pct??

Why do they complain when there suppressed or shutdown?

Side effects are part of the game, if you don't want them, dont use the products.. Kind of tired of hearing the complaining and whining..
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This site is set up to talk about the good and the bad of the supplements people are using. I don't think people are whining anymore than they are on any other anabolic thread I have read over the last ten years on numerous forums. Osta is still so new and was marketed as side effect anabolic free ride. People talking about their sides is important to really getting a handle on what this stuff is doing to people.
 
Goliath1 said:
Not pointing fingers at anyone, this is just general..

But we all know Osta is suppressive, so why do people still use it in pct??

Why do they complain when there suppressed or shutdown?

Side effects are part of the game, if you don't want them, dont use the products.. Kind of tired of hearing the complaining and whining..
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Nicely put.

Going to get bloods for my next cycle so we can lay this beast to rest.
 
SquatsAndOats said:
I'm getting a lot of that now but I'm in week 4 at 20mg started getting lots of bloat and puffier nipples. So far research aromasin isn't doing the trick so I might drop it and go into pct
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I'd either see how quickly you can get a different RC. Choose one of the board sponsors here.

BCseacow83 said:
This site is set up to talk about the good and the bad of the supplements people are using. I don't think people are whining anymore than they are on any other anabolic thread I have read over the last ten years on numerous forums. Osta is still so new and was marketed as side effect anabolic free ride. People talking about their sides is important to really getting a handle on what this stuff is doing to people.
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Agreed. 1) Which is why I posted my experience. 2) Which is why I created log with the intention of illustrating that a full PCT is required for this compound.

It won't shut anyone down, but it will suppress you. I think at 25, I'm very intuned with my body and could tell I could not take the suppression anymore. Call me a bitch if you want, but like I said, the risk vs. reward did not weight in ostarine's favor.
 
BCseacow83 said:
This site is set up to talk about the good and the bad of the supplements people are using. I don't think people are whining anymore than they are on any other anabolic thread I have read over the last ten years on numerous forums. Osta is still so new and was marketed as side effect anabolic free ride. People talking about their sides is important to really getting a handle on what this stuff is doing to people.
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Agreed, but that's not what I meant..
 
The Engineer said:
I'd either see how quickly you can get a different RC. Choose one of the board sponsors here. Agreed. 1) Which is why I posted my experience. 2) Which is why I created log with the intention of illustrating that a full PCT is required for this compound. It won't shut anyone down, but it will suppress you. I think at 25, I'm very intuned with my body and could tell I could not take the suppression anymore. Call me a bitch if you want, but like I said, the risk vs. reward did not weight in ostarine's favor.
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I don't know anything about your log, but I agree with what you said above..

Osta is a waste IMO...
 
The Engineer said:
I'd either see how quickly you can get a different RC. Choose one of the board sponsors here. Agreed. 1) Which is why I posted my experience. 2) Which is why I created log with the intention of illustrating that a full PCT is required for this compound. It won't shut anyone down, but it will suppress you. I think at 25, I'm very intuned with my body and could tell I could not take the suppression anymore. Call me a bitch if you want, but like I said, the risk vs. reward did not weight in ostarine's favor.
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I've got other AIs that work too from the same company and my joints are dryer so it's hard to say. I've been taking nolva too and I can't tell if it's working or not SERMs always make my nipples puffy for some reason too. I have no clue why. Gonna play it by ear for a couple more days to see what's up.
 
SquatsAndOats said:
I've got other AIs that work too from the same company and my joints are dryer so it's hard to say. I've been taking nolva too and I can't tell if it's working or not SERMs always make my nipples puffy for some reason too. I have no clue why. Gonna play it by ear for a couple more days to see what's up.
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Puffy nips is either elevated prolactin or gyno from elevated estro. You can look into a ralox + prami protocol and drop the ostarine. Have you seen any benefit from it?
 
SquatsAndOats said:
I've got other AIs that work too from the same company and my joints are dryer so it's hard to say. I've been taking nolva too and I can't tell if it's working or not SERMs always make my nipples puffy for some reason too. I have no clue why. Gonna play it by ear for a couple more days to see what's up.
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If you ever do decide to run Osta again cruise on Forma ED at like 50mg and increase if you feel you need to. FFS some of the effects The Engineer is describing is as though hes been running High dosed Tren with no test base. Lesson to everyone don't f*ck around with doses higher than 25mg.
 
The Engineer said:
Puffy nips is either elevated prolactin or gyno from elevated estro. You can look into a ralox + prami protocol and drop the ostarine. Have you seen any benefit from it?
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And i highly doubt he will need to follow a heavy protocol like this for sensitive nips from OSTA, SquatsAndOats when did you start running an AI? what have your macros and cals been like throughout the cycle? has there been any changes? It seems people are just throwing out generic advice without getting a real picture of whats going on.
 
The Engineer said:
Balls shrunk. Complete loss of libido. Subpar erections. No motivation to train whatsoever. Crushing lethargy. Painful brain fog. I could barely think. Having to study for exams sucked. Feelings of being off. Extremely moody. Uncontrollable estrogen bloat. Went into PCT yesterday and it was like night and day.
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Thanks. That sounds like my first cycle. This time around I dosed 2 caps Tropinol xp Ed and 1-2 pumps of Formeron Ed. I'm horny as a muther****er. Wishing you well in Pct. Eat like an Monster.
 
The Engineer said:
Puffy nips is either elevated prolactin or gyno from elevated estro. You can look into a ralox + prami protocol and drop the ostarine. Have you seen any benefit from it?
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i have slight gyno from my first test cycle a year ago. I just noticed increased puffienss. And I could feel tenderness when wearing a logo shirt. Probably gonna do clomid/ralox pct and watch it further to see if an AI is still necessary.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
And i highly doubt he will need to follow a heavy protocol like this for sensitive nips from OSTA, SquatsAndOats when did you start running an AI? what have your macros and cals been like throughout the cycle? has there been any changes? It seems people are just throwing out generic advice without getting a real picture of whats going on.
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Macros have been 2500-2700 cals a day high protein high carb moderate fat. I'm doing zero physical activity cause I have a torn meniscus and just had hand surgery. I was using osta to help keep muscle while recovering. Not much changes. Was pretty good first couple of weeks. Started AI in week 3 12.5mg Aromasin EOD, then went to ED when it didn't lower my gyno symptoms. Yesterday was first dose of 25mg aromasin.
 
SquatsAndOats said:
Macros have been 2500-2700 cals a day high protein high carb moderate fat. I'm doing zero physical activity cause I have a torn meniscus and just had hand surgery. I was using osta to help keep muscle while recovering. Not much changes. Was pretty good first couple of weeks. Started AI in week 3 12.5mg Aromasin EOD, then went to ED when it didn't lower my gyno symptoms. Yesterday was first dose of 25mg aromasin.
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So you are not even lifting? I don't know what to tell you dude.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
And i highly doubt he will need to follow a heavy protocol like this for sensitive nips from OSTA, SquatsAndOats when did you start running an AI? what have your macros and cals been like throughout the cycle? has there been any changes? It seems people are just throwing out generic advice without getting a real picture of whats going on.
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You sure like antagonizing random people, huh? Run a cycle then get back to us.

We're all here trying to help one another. You're the only one who isn't contributing anything useful. Quit causing drama. You're like an ugly chick with too much makeup. Just looking for attention. :)
 
The Engineer said:
You sure like antagonizing random people, huh? Run a cycle then get back to us.

We're all here trying to help one another. You're the only one who isn't contributing anything useful. Quit causing drama. You're like an ugly chick with too much makeup. Just looking for attention. :)
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Have a lot more experience with this compound than you brother ;) I'm also here to help. Dont take me the wrong way, cause im not trying to be antagonizing at all.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
So you are not even lifting? I don't know what to tell you dude.
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Yea I was bascule using Osta to help me keep my muscle and strength for the 8 week hiatus. Should be back in the gym before thanksgiving for upper body. Lower body who knows. I could always drop the dose to 15 or 10mg while keeping the AI the same to see if that helps
 
SquatsAndOats said:
Yea I was bascule using Osta to help me keep my muscle and strength for the 8 week hiatus. Should be back in the gym before thanksgiving for upper body. Lower body who knows. I could always drop the dose to 15 or 10mg while keeping the AI the same to see if that helps
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I noticed a great deal less sensitivity and puffiness when I dropped from 25mg to 20mg.
 
SquatsAndOats said:
to 10mg 5mg or just start PCT? I'll be back in the gym in 2 weeks for upper body.
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IMO running osta when out of the gym is a waste, personally if i was in your position i would stop running osta, eat at maintainence and restore hormones to baseline for when you start back up at the gym.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
IMO running osta when out of the gym is a waste, personally if i was in your position i would stop running osta, eat at maintainence and restore hormones to baseline for when you start back up at the gym.
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why do you say this? This is exactly the reason it was developed was for use to prevent muscle wasting? And what all the studies are testing...

Personally I would just run a lower dose (5-10mg max) since there's really no reason to run higher and 1-3mg has proven effective per the studies.
 
ive been on osta for 3 weeks and have no symptoms at all of shutdown. sex drive is normal. erections strong and normal. wake it the morning with a super woody. semen volume actually up a little. if anything I feel like my test is a little higher. will still do a SERM during pct in 3 more weeks of course. I am on an ai as well and sometimes I feel like my nips are puffy and other times I feel like they are not. It might be all in the head or its super super mild. maybe its prolactin cuz its so mild if it is puffy and it shouldn't be because the ai is legit adex at .25mg eod. But that's the only side effect I can report, and even that may not even be real, it might just be in my head.
 
booneman77 said:
why do you say this? This is exactly the reason it was developed was for use to prevent muscle wasting? And what all the studies are testing... Personally I would just run a lower dose (5-10mg max) since there's really no reason to run higher and 1-3mg has proven effective per the studies.
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I say it cause he is starting back up gym in a few weeks so in my mind it would be better to have a possible high estro issue sorted and test levels recovered by then instead of going into PCT shortly after returning to the gym. Then after working out for a while he will be good to cycle again.
 
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