Need some help please.
30yrs old, 190lbs, 5'10" and 25%bf (6 x a week lifting)
Looking at Ostarine at 25 mg for 8 weeks but have no idea with to stack it with it (for gyno, liver or anything else)
I'm a total newb so my apologies if this has been covered.
I'm only supplementing with 5 mg's of creatine and a herb test boost daily.
Any help is greatly appreciated. TIA.
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SARMs - What are they?
Selective androgen receptor modulators or SARMs are a novel class of androgen receptor ligands. They are intended to have the same kind of effects as androgenic drugs like anabolic steroids but be much more selective in their action,allowing them to be used for many more clinical indications than the relatively limited legitimate uses that anabolic steroids are currently approved for.
ELI5: These are drugs that are designed to have the same effects of Anabolic-Androgenic Steroids but with less side effects. They work by up-regulating or boosting the action of the Androgen Receptors by attaching to it and stimulating it.
Should I be taking them?
If you have been training seriously for 2-3 years and have a good grasp of proper training and nutrition, and want a boost without making the jump to injecting Testosterone and AAS then SARMs are an option.
If you have much less than 2 years experience in the gym you need food and training, not drugs. Performance Enhancing Drugs are not shortcuts to amazing magazine bodies, if you don't have enough time training you likely won't be able to get full potential out of PEDs to begin with. So no you probably shouldn't be taking SARMs in the Authors opinion.
Ostarine/MK-2866
TL
R; Low side effects. Good for maintaining muscle mass. Suppressive at longer cycles and higher doses. Good for healing tendons. No aromatisation so low gyno risk.
Dosages
Low: 3mg (Study dose)
Average: 20mg
High: 50mg (Diminishing returns thereafter)
Developed by GTx and Merck. A less potent SARM that was used for treatment of muscle wasting diseases.
This SARM is less potent than LGD. Similar profile otherwise with side effects well tolerated.
Has been shown to help increase the rate of collagen synthesis and builds tendons while also increasing bone density.
Common side effects: Acne, Headaches, Low Testosterone sides as suppression starts.
PCT - Do you need it?
SARMs suppress your FSH/LH and Testosterone, that is a fact. The reasoning here behind no PCT is the fact that it suppresses them and doesn't cause a shutdown. Therefore your body can (normally) naturally recover fine as your FSH/LH typically still remain within the normal acceptable range.
As you up your dose you will cause more suppression. If you are doing 10mg doses for 12 weeks you will more than likely put your FSH and LH to levels below normal, so PCT would be recommended. Studies on the 1mg doses showed after 30 days the subjects FSH and LH levels recovered. But these were at 1mg doses, we all take closer to 5mg so we can expect more Testosterone and HPTA suppression than those studies.
A general rule of thumb similar to steroid cycles is applicable. If you do not PCT, you should take time off equal to your time on. i.e. at the end of a 8 week cycle for 5mg you should then spend 8 weeks with no drugs in your system to let your body recover back to baseline.
If you are doing longer cycles (12 weeks+ of higher doses i.e. 10mg LGD). PCT would be advised unless you don't mind a longer recovery.
DAA is not PCT. It does not do anything to stimulate restarting your HPTA into producing more testosterone. It has been shown to cause a short term spike in LH but this is not enough for what we regard as PCT.
DAA is useful for infertile men as it has a more apparent effect. Adding it in to the end of your SARM cycle cannot hurt though and it may make you feel a bit less suppressed.
Natural PCT Supplements and Other Test Boosters available online
If you are going to PCT then you must use a real compound that can stimulate your HPTA, such as a SERM. If you can get a hold of SARMs you can get a hold of Nolvadex/Clomid... Over the counter PCT such as 'HCGenerate' are close to useless and more expensive than actual PCT drugs.
Liquid Clomid/Torem/Nolva are fine (from reputable sellers of course).
Avoid shill websites such as evolutionary.org as they have one agenda in mind, and that is to sell their stock. They will never say anything bad about any SARM or supplement they sell
Precautions Before Cycling
Gyno
While most studies suggest SARMs have low sides and do not aromatise into etrogen, there have been cases of Gyno from these compounds. This could be either from hormone imbalances causing E2 levels to rise or receiving something spiked with a prohormone. Generally the risk is very low and you don't need to worry unless you have had gyno before or are very sensitive to it.
You should always have a SERM and AI on hand before starting a cycle. You may unknowingly receive a prohormone.
Early signs of Gyno are typically itchy or burning sensitive nipples. This is when you should start taking an low dose AI.
If your nipples are swelling, painful, lactating, are really puffy or you feel lumps under the nipple you are developing Gyno and you need to start taking a SERM.
Puffy nipples alone does not indicate Gyno. Puffy nipples can be caused by fat and water. Do not scare yourself into thinking you are getting Gyno just because your nipples aren't hard one day.
If you do not have an AI or SERM on hand and are starting to feel Gyno symptoms, you should stop taking any drugs.
Stacking SARMs
Stacking SARMs (actual SARMs, not MK, GW etc..) is unnecessary at this point. They all seem to have similar MOA's and similar side effects but with different strength so the only thing you're doing by stacking them is risking even more suppression. Although you may stack them if you wish, but it may be wiser just to take a higher dose of the stronger SARM.
