Ok, before anybody gets all silly here, I am not planning on runnng all of these compounds at the same time. I simply ran out of space in the 'thread title box' and therefore could not add the "s" at the end.
My plan was to run an A) Ostarine/Andarine/Cardarine re-comp (focusing heavily on fat loss), before beginning a B) Triumph and X1-KT or Dermacrine re-comp (focusing on hypertrophy). Well, sourcing for the Cardarine/Andarine in my country (non US resident) is difficult and cost-prohibitive so I am now considering what I can run alongside Ostarine, that will compliment it and be somewhat similar in ability to help shed fat stores and maintain LBM. I am still exploring my options but I am leaning towards going the OTC supplement route. So, here is my current plan....
A)
- OL Ostar1ine @ 7 weeks (20mg wk. 1, followed by 25mg @ 6 weeks).
- I will be running TransForm along side the Osta at 50 or 100mg ed
My questions on A) are:
1) Would it be wise to stack X1-KT with this Ostar1ne/TransFrom cycle? My only concern would be competition for the androgen receptor. I have seen a bunch of threads where these compounds have been run successively or with over-lapping time periods but never concurrently. Specific thoughts on receptor competition?
2) My plan is to run OL TransForm @ either 50 or 100 mg ED for E control and keeping lean. Is it worth it to go up to 200mg ED to gain the more anabolic effects of this compound? Again, I wonder about androgen receptor competition and the synergism/antagonism of these compounds. Thoughts?
B)
After the above cycle I want to jump into a re-comp/lean bulk with Tr1umph as my base. Depending on what I decide for the 1st cycle, I will add X1-KT or Dermacrine to this cycle. Lean mass will definitely be the goal here. The second cycle might look like this...
- Tr1umph @ 40/40/60 for the remainder (30 days)
- X1-KT @ 1.5ml for 45 days or Dermacrine for 46 days @ 5pumps ED
I am leaning towards X1-KT as I'm not yet convinced on DHEA and my need for it. We'll see. I have also read about a positive synergy between 11 Keto and other anabolics.
My questions for B) and overall are:
1) Are there any other suggestions about what I could stack with Tr1umph? Something more anabolic maybe? I would like for this second compound to be somewhat mild and mild on the hairline. I am found of the 4-chloro's for this reason.
2) Should I take a break between the two cycles or can I run them successively? If I take a break, my PCT after the 1st Cycle would be Nolva @ 10/10/5, along with DAA for 12 days. A full PCT of 20/20/10/10 w/ and AI and DAA would be used if ran without a break. Other boosters and cort control would be in the mix as well.
Stats:
Mid 30's / 6' 0.5" / currently 194 lbs / 11-13 % BF / mix of volume and strength training / 4-5 day lifting cycle / I love my treadmill :]
I have some of the supplements, some are awaiting delivery and others will be ordered in the coming days based upon feedback and recommendations here.
Sorry for the long post. Personal experience and scientific insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for the feedback!!
My plan was to run an A) Ostarine/Andarine/Cardarine re-comp (focusing heavily on fat loss), before beginning a B) Triumph and X1-KT or Dermacrine re-comp (focusing on hypertrophy). Well, sourcing for the Cardarine/Andarine in my country (non US resident) is difficult and cost-prohibitive so I am now considering what I can run alongside Ostarine, that will compliment it and be somewhat similar in ability to help shed fat stores and maintain LBM. I am still exploring my options but I am leaning towards going the OTC supplement route. So, here is my current plan....
A)
- OL Ostar1ine @ 7 weeks (20mg wk. 1, followed by 25mg @ 6 weeks).
- I will be running TransForm along side the Osta at 50 or 100mg ed
My questions on A) are:
1) Would it be wise to stack X1-KT with this Ostar1ne/TransFrom cycle? My only concern would be competition for the androgen receptor. I have seen a bunch of threads where these compounds have been run successively or with over-lapping time periods but never concurrently. Specific thoughts on receptor competition?
2) My plan is to run OL TransForm @ either 50 or 100 mg ED for E control and keeping lean. Is it worth it to go up to 200mg ED to gain the more anabolic effects of this compound? Again, I wonder about androgen receptor competition and the synergism/antagonism of these compounds. Thoughts?
B)
After the above cycle I want to jump into a re-comp/lean bulk with Tr1umph as my base. Depending on what I decide for the 1st cycle, I will add X1-KT or Dermacrine to this cycle. Lean mass will definitely be the goal here. The second cycle might look like this...
- Tr1umph @ 40/40/60 for the remainder (30 days)
- X1-KT @ 1.5ml for 45 days or Dermacrine for 46 days @ 5pumps ED
I am leaning towards X1-KT as I'm not yet convinced on DHEA and my need for it. We'll see. I have also read about a positive synergy between 11 Keto and other anabolics.
My questions for B) and overall are:
1) Are there any other suggestions about what I could stack with Tr1umph? Something more anabolic maybe? I would like for this second compound to be somewhat mild and mild on the hairline. I am found of the 4-chloro's for this reason.
2) Should I take a break between the two cycles or can I run them successively? If I take a break, my PCT after the 1st Cycle would be Nolva @ 10/10/5, along with DAA for 12 days. A full PCT of 20/20/10/10 w/ and AI and DAA would be used if ran without a break. Other boosters and cort control would be in the mix as well.
Stats:
Mid 30's / 6' 0.5" / currently 194 lbs / 11-13 % BF / mix of volume and strength training / 4-5 day lifting cycle / I love my treadmill :]
I have some of the supplements, some are awaiting delivery and others will be ordered in the coming days based upon feedback and recommendations here.
Sorry for the long post. Personal experience and scientific insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for the feedback!!