Osta Plex

VaughnTrue said:
except that Ostarine was studied for short term in EXTREMELY low doses, and the compounds found within Osta Plex have been present in the food supply and sold for dozens of years and literal billions of doses with no reported side effects.

I know which one I trust my health with.
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What are we calling "an EXTREMELY low dose" here?

Like, an amount you might find in the food supply?

Do the compounds in Ostaplex have any human PK data? Dose impact on lipids? Cbc? Hormones? Liver enzymes? PSA?

My point is, Ostaplex may well fit the definition of "legal", and fall outside the definition of "drug"...but so what?
 
I just ordered 2 bottles but can't use it for a couple months seeing as im stuck in a cast
 
cobri66 said:
I just ordered 2 bottles but can't use it for a couple months seeing as im stuck in a cast
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I think I'm grabbing 2 bottles as well. I am not sure if I will run Osta Plex or Haladrol next though
 
jomama1 said:
my bottle came in today. plan on running it starting next week.
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Just wondering if you started yet? I would like to follow your log, if you are running one.
 
Started on Sunday:

starting weight: 197
bench:290
Squat:345(weak)
Dead:460

I'll let you know when I start up my log.
 
jomama1 said:
Started on Sunday:

starting weight: 197
bench:290
Squat:345(weak)
Dead:460

I'll let you know when I start up my log.
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Excellent! Thanks for letting me know. I'm looking forward to it. I think my 2 bottles will be here on Thursday
 
Does Osta-Plex contain Ostarine? I heard Ostarine was back.
 
Started Osta Plex on Saturday:)
 
VaughnTrue said:
different ingredients, same MOA for results
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I guess! I know it's an age old argument and it's beating a dead horse at this point, but it still strikes me as deceptive to the customer. It must be making you guys a healthy dollar though so more power to ya.
 
They say SARMS have low to no sides. Ive never used PH's before or SARMS. at 35 years old im looking for something a bit stronger than natural herbal products. Im sure im not natty tho. Back when certain companies had real :quote: natural products but since have changed whole lineups of their products 3 times over by now. My question is, should i finally give SARMS and stuff like 1ad and 4ad a try? Im really diggin Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals as a brand and respected company.
 
Johnold said:
They say SARMS have low to no sides. Ive never used PH's before or SARMS. at 35 years old im looking for something a bit stronger than natural herbal products. Im sure im not natty tho. Back when certain companies had real :quote: natural products but since have changed whole lineups of their products 3 times over by now. My question is, should i finally give SARMS and stuff like 1ad and 4ad a try? Im really diggin Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals as a brand and respected company.
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I am on day 7 of Osta Plex and absolutely no side effects so far. I'm feeling pretty great to be honest. We will see how things move forward.
 
MARK_ said:
I am on day 7 of Osta Plex and absolutely no side effects so far. I'm feeling pretty great to be honest. We will see how things move forward.
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Start a log up!

Will one bottle suffice for gains assuming I will want to take an OTC pct with this?
 
Johnold said:
They say SARMS have low to no sides. Ive never used PH's before or SARMS. at 35 years old im looking for something a bit stronger than natural herbal products. Im sure im not natty tho. Back when certain companies had real :quote: natural products but since have changed whole lineups of their products 3 times over by now. My question is, should i finally give SARMS and stuff like 1ad and 4ad a try? Im really diggin Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals as a brand and respected company.
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SARMss absolutely have side effects - especially at the dosages "we" use them at. The highest dose used in the MK-2866/Ostarine/GTx-024/Enobosarm Phase Trials was 3mg - and it caused some HPTA suppression at that dose. 20-25mg has been shown to cause very high suppression - one user on here (UncleSARM) went from mid-500's Total Testosterone, to high 1 or 200's (it was either in the 180's or 280's - I don't recall and don't have the thread saved) - That's Hypogonadal. With "Real" SARMs, it would behoove you to also use a SERM like Clomid (same as for 1-DHEA, 4-DHEA, 19-Nor-DHEA etc...). This is 50mg of 2-Step 19-Nor-DHEA, with (I assume) 2 caps/day dosage in a bottle. No idea how oral 2-Step's with "Cyclosome" compare to Sub-Lingual 1-Step Cyclodextrins - but you can get some info on *possible* effects here:

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Bottom line is you will be taking a pro-hormone, so on-cycle and post-cycle support/therapy should also be on hand when using.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
SARMss absolutely have side effects - especially at the dosages "we" use them at. The highest dose used in the MK-2866/Ostarine/GTx-024/Enobosarm Phase Trials was 3mg - and it caused some HPTA suppression at that dose. 20-25mg has been shown to cause very high suppression - one user on here (UncleSARM) went from mid-500's Total Testosterone, to high 1 or 200's (it was either in the 180's or 280's - I don't recall and don't have the thread saved) - That's Hypogonadal. With "Real" SARMs, it would behoove you to also use a SERM like Clomid (same as for 1-DHEA, 4-DHEA, 19-Nor-DHEA etc...). This is 50mg of 2-Step 19-Nor-DHEA, with (I assume) 2 caps/day dosage in a bottle. No idea how oral 2-Step's with "Cyclosome" compare to Sub-Lingual 1-Step Cyclodextrins - but you can get some info on *possible* effects here:

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Bottom line is you will be taking a pro-hormone, so on-cycle and post-cycle support/therapy should also be on hand when using.
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So in otherwords, stay natty and continue to wait for myokems relaunch? Desperately waiting...ugh
 
Georgiepecker said:
Start a log up!

Will one bottle suffice for gains assuming I will want to take an OTC pct with this?
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I think you will want 2 bottles. I suggest you run at least 6 weeks, but maybe 8. I am not running OTC, but will run PCT (obviously). This is my log. Skip to the end for Osta Plex updates. Scroll through my log, If you are interested in my run of Hi-Tech Superdrol. That worked very well for me.

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Im trying to look into inching into hormonals etc but im not 100% sure. Been natty my whole life. Or atleast as far as i knew lol.
 
Yeah i understand this. Thats why im juggling back and forth with the idea. I mean, it's not like I'm 18 or 21 years old and shouldn't be using hormonals. Im 35 and im primed to be able to.

But, ive had decent results in the past using myokem. So yes and no? To your comment...? Shrugs.
 
Big boy rules. You're 35, so you know the drill. Odd's are you will experience ZERO lasting negative effects from the 2-Step DHEA Pro-Hormones. *But* if you are prepared to be the 1 in 100,000 (total guess/made up number) that never recovers and has to go on TRT - then go for it. Go get the female hormone panel at privatemdlabs (or the equivalent at discountedlabs) for about $70 before starting, to get a baseline (you may qualify for TRT right now! LOL). Then run your 1-Andro and 4-AD 8 week cycle, with supports, PCT with Clomid, wait another 8 weeks for the Clomid to clear, and go re-do the blood test.

Or stay Natty... if you don't pay your bills with your physique, it's only a personal/vanity thing, right? :D
 
Well im not one to wanna rush muscle gain results. I just like a day to day long lasting and maintaining gym life with improving results from time to time. As long as im not fat and im lean while supporting some obvious muscle gains. Im not expecting or desiring to look like the next LOA member or like a Seid or anything lolll. Just pretty decently lean and shredded and sized for a 5ft 8in 35 yo dude. Healthy...

I just like to play around with the idea of 1ad or 4 ad.or ostarin etc. Im not looking to stack tons of compounds. Just like 1 or 2. Something to recomp , maintain , keep and improve current muscle. And something to help stay lean,dry amd hard looking.
 
Johnold said:
Well im not one to wanna rush muscle gain results. I just like a day to day long lasting and maintaining gym life with improving results from time to time. As long as im not fat and im lean while supporting some obvious muscle gains. Im not expecting or desiring to look like the next LOA member or like a Seid or anything lolll. Just pretty decently lean and shredded and sized for a 5ft 8in 35 yo dude. Healthy...

I just like to play around with the idea of 1ad or 4 ad.or ostarin etc. Im not looking to stack tons of compounds. Just like 1 or 2. Something to recomp , maintain , keep and improve current muscle. And something to help stay lean,dry amd hard looking.
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Have you ever tried R-Andro? Sounds like it would suit your goals well and it should not cause any harsh suppression or shutdown for that matter. It is an absolute joy to run. PCT would be a breeze...it was for me anyway. Odds are, you could even stack that with Myokem's upcoming release(s).
 
Johnold said:
Well im not one to wanna rush muscle gain results. I just like a day to day long lasting and maintaining gym life with improving results from time to time. As long as im not fat and im lean while supporting some obvious muscle gains. Im not expecting or desiring to look like the next LOA member or like a Seid or anything lolll. Just pretty decently lean and shredded and sized for a 5ft 8in 35 yo dude. Healthy...

I just like to play around with the idea of 1ad or 4 ad.or ostarin etc. Im not looking to stack tons of compounds. Just like 1 or 2. Something to recomp , maintain , keep and improve current muscle. And something to help stay lean,dry amd hard looking.
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I hear ya. I'd stay away from Ostarine - it really is just an LBM "retainer" while on severe calorie restriction (and does this well), but for maintenance/bulk the DHEAs are better (and not canceled, experimental drugs with far less safety data than the DHEAs). Even this Ostaplex would be good (since it isn't Ostarine) - it's a safe(er) DHEA. You could even substitute the 19-Nor for 1-Andro - but 1-Andro has some real good data, so I think it would be best as a 1st cycle. The reason people liked "real" SARMs - is that they were actual ZERO STEP, active on their own, drugs - they worked without relying on the 78 thousand puzzle pieces needed to line up for proper conversion to the target hormone at whatever percentage converted to the desired thing.
 
Ricky10 said:
Have you ever tried R-Andro? Sounds like it would suit your goals well and it should not cause any harsh suppression or shutdown for that matter. It is an absolute joy to run. PCT would be a breeze...it was for me anyway. Odds are, you could even stack that with Myokem's upcoming release(s).
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No ill check it out. Dont think ive ever heard of that before.
 
Yeah im interested in Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals products. They seem to be effective but mostly safe.
 
Johnold said:
Yeah im interested in Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals products. They seem to be effective but mostly safe.
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My favorite is definitely the 1-Testosterone. It works very well, and you only need an OTC PCT like Arimiplex or Novedex XT,

Georgiepecker said:
Anyone have consensus is this product even good to go and at what dosage (how many bottles needed, pills per day, etc)
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You can run Osta-Plex at the "max" dose of 4/day.
 
VaughnTrue said:
My favorite is definitely the 1-Testosterone. It works very well, and you only need an OTC PCT like Arimiplex or Novedex XT,



You can run Osta-Plex at the "max" dose of 4/day.
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At 4 a day will that give you any lethargy during your cycle. I took Halodrol as my first PH and it made me so sleepy at times.
 
jameschoi said:
At 4 a day will that give you any lethargy during your cycle. I took Halodrol as my first PH and it made me so sleepy at times.
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It's theoretically possible. You can stack either 4-dhea or epiandro with it to combat if you experience it
 
Which is the most mild as far as taking the recommended dose ?

Which has the least amount of sides depending on the recommended dose?
 
IF i get into hormonals for the first time id like to REALLY take my time. Even if i just have to take just 1 product that most people would give me a hard time about saying "it's too mild you need more compounds, more punch" to my stack?
 
Johnold said:
Which is the most mild as far as taking the recommended dose ?

Which has the least amount of sides depending on the recommended dose?
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Well even if you take 4 caps per day that's only 200mg of 19-Nor total...is that enough to see decent conversion/results??
 
Well im not 100% sure if ostarin products would be my first hormonal id take since most people point to that as the most strongest legal compound we still have legally.
 
I remember having great results with products from a company that claimed to be natural about 5 years ago when they first jumped into the scene as "underground" products. Muscle builder and a leaning suicidal aromataze inhibitor etc. First to bring arimistane and androsten cort control products etc. And whether people wanna admit it or not, those werent natural. MY OPINION. DON'T FLAME ME.

so basically what im saying here by those comments, NO! I truthfully DO NOT believe im natty. That card was burned long ago.
 
Johnold said:
This product isnt?
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Ostarine is an illegal product. Osta-Plex is not Ostarine as Hi-tech only sells legal supplements, however the 3 active ingredients found in Osta-Plex work in the same exact pathway/way that Ostarine itself works. You get the benefits, without the illegality.
 
I suspect people that are interested in this product realize that 19nor-DHEA is known to cause a significant amount of bloat. Not the look I am looking to achieve going into summer.

Not trying to down the product when I mention that. I just think it is important that people know what to expect and how that may impact their current goals..
 
True. I don't usually look deep into hormonals. They never interested me in the past as much. But now im coming around.
 
Ricky10 said:
I suspect people that are interested in this product realize that 19nor-DHEA is known to cause a significant amount of bloat. Not the look I am looking to achieve going into summer.

Not trying to down the product when I mention that. I just think it is important that people know what to expect and how that may impact their current goals..
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curious as to why you think 19nor-dhea will provide a lot of bloat.

nandrolone doesn't offer much aromatizion at all
 
I wanted something that helps give me the leaning and drying out help along with helping recomp and help to hold onto muscle while calorie restricting and and fasting etc.

Something like that is STILL gonna help grow muscle too.
 
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