Opinions on the ECA stack...

Pretty tried and true. Simple and cost effective. Safer IMO than stronger alternatives like Clen or T3. Insane appetite suppression.
 
It's completely legal where I'm from the guy in the store says he try not to tell people about it lol but I just heard about it today.
 
way2leann said:
It's completely legal where I'm from the guy in the store says he try not to tell people about it lol but I just heard about it today.
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Where are you at? Was just curious, lots of good research about its effectiveness and low chance of side effects, even with very long term use. Research shows it actually become more effective the longer you take it....
 
Canada they sell it over the counter only at this one shop but it's cheap 4.99 for a 50 pill bottle 8mg I'm gonna grab a couple tomorrow just in case lol
 
Think it's fine even with a pre workout or should I cut the caffeine when would you guys usually take stack says to eat 8 mg every 6 to 8 hrs
 
**** ran ECA as a pre but I didn't take caffeine pills for the reason my pre has it in it but all my lifts went up 5 10 pounds the pump was amazing I'm going to grab a couple bottles rough that is banned in the US
 
Might be better off with Albuterol vs ephedra- Invalid Link Removed

Albuterol acts selectively at beta-2 receptors which promote fat loss, with relatively little effect at beta-1 receptors of the heart. In contrast, ephedrine works about equally at both receptor types. This selectivity enables higher effective dosing of albuterol for same or lesser effect on the heart.
 
way2leann said:
**** ran ECA as a pre but I didn't take caffeine pills for the reason my pre has it in it but all my lifts went up 5 10 pounds the pump was amazing I'm going to grab a couple bottles rough that is banned in the US
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Not banned in the US. Just have to buy at the pharmacy.
 
way2leann said:
Banned to sell as a fat burner...
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Yea. Thats true. But honestly its almost nicer being able to adjust the amounts of what you want. ie not enough caffiene or too much ephedrine or if you wanna stack with another product. The more universal the better
 
Lots of NSAID research lately, saying that chronic use may not be good for long term health - I dropped the "A" a long time ago, and even stopped my daily baby asprin when i wasn't taking ECA.
 
Huge fan of EC personally. Cheap, effective, and no serious side effects. Clen is definitely more powerful, but the side effects make it annoying. EC is always my go to option for fat loss
 
I don't care for it.
 
GettinSwolen said:
Might be better off with Albuterol vs ephedra- Invalid Link Removed

Albuterol acts selectively at beta-2 receptors which promote fat loss, with relatively little effect at beta-1 receptors of the heart. In contrast, ephedrine works about equally at both receptor types. This selectivity enables higher effective dosing of albuterol for same or lesser effect on the heart.
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Interested in others opinions on this. Every now and then I hear people recommend albuterol over ephedrine, plus you actually can use ketotifen to reset receptors
 
I was just thinking about this the other day, I have not used it since the ban..... Have to find where I can get the E and give it a try !!
 
Rocket3015 said:
I was just thinking about this the other day, I have not used it since the ban..... Have to find where I can get the E and give it a try !!
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Just go to the pharmacy, it's in bronkaid which can be purchased OTC at most any of em with ID. I'm sure the limit is different in every state, but one box is most definitely not the limit in any state.
 
Audioph1x said:
Just go to the pharmacy, it's in bronkaid which can be purchased OTC at most any of em with ID. I'm sure the limit is different in every state, but one box is most definitely not the limit in any state.
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I think the limit is 6.7g/month for any state.

I take bronkaid for allergies, so it's awesome to get the EC benefit out of it. Great mood increase using focus XT as the C for the EC stack. Better than coffee, although I do end up drinking a cup at work lol
 
Good Info !!
 
Daycrawler said:
I think the limit is 6.7g/month for any state.

I take bronkaid for allergies, so it's awesome to get the EC benefit out of it. Great mood increase using focus XT as the C for the EC stack. Better than coffee, although I do end up drinking a cup at work lol
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My morning ritual is focus XT+ephedrine. Waaay better than coffee!
 
georgetown said:
Interested in others opinions on this. Every now and then I hear people recommend albuterol over ephedrine, plus you actually can use ketotifen to reset receptors
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I'd never run Albuterol *as often* as I'd run Ephedrine - the safety studies on Ephedrine were pretty long (6 months - 1 year IIRC), and the half life prevents down-regulation. But I think I'm going to try Albuterol instead of Clen (orally) for my next cut - I'm reading a lot of good things about it. Clen and necrotic heart tissue scares me a tad :D I still use it topically though.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
I'd never run Albuterol *as often* as I'd run Ephedrine - the safety studies on Ephedrine were pretty long (6 months - 1 year IIRC), and the half life prevents down-regulation. But I think I'm going to try Albuterol instead of Clen (orally) for my next cut - I'm reading a lot of good things about it. Clen and necrotic heart tissue scares me a tad :D I still use it topically though.
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I know someone who does that same thing for the same reasons. Hes said hes done with clen. Hes older and been there. But he definitely has an albuterol inhaler lol
 
a friend of mine just gave me some Albuterol, I am going to read on it and give it a shot sometime this summer.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Primatene is the HCL version, which some people say is better than the Sulfate found in Bronkaid - I have no idea though...
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I find Primatene the better ergogenic while Bronkaid I feel is a better anxiolytic. Some find Bronkaid to be much stronger. I assume those people know that the Primatene tabs are 12.5mg each while Bronkaid is 25mg :D
 
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I started the EC stack about a week ago trying to shed a few lbs before my TX vacation and I am very Impressed. 25e 200c 3x a day. Appetite suppression is unreal. I work in sales so the extreme boost in energy from the 2 is insane. Bronkaid is what I am using but would like to try Primatene to see the differences.
 
PHAMPTON1105 said:
I started the EC stack about a week ago trying to shed a few lbs before my TX vacation and I am very Impressed. 25e 200c 3x a day. Appetite suppression is unreal. I work in sales so the extreme boost in energy from the 2 is insane. Bronkaid is what I am using but would like to try Primatene to see the differences.
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I've been told that Primatene works as well, maybe even slightly better.
 
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