way2leann
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I just use right now caffeine pills for pre and cell tech creatiean for post and see some nice results but I'm looking for some new pre that really gives a pump and good post any you can grab from gnc ect...
I wouldn't waste your time with the cell tech, you could save a lot of money using regular creatine mono. I would suggest looking into CreMax XT. CreMax XT works great as a non-stim preworkout and includes a full serving of creatine, so you could drop the celltech and save yourself some money. CreMax XT also contains glycerol to deliver a nice pump. 200mg of caffeine with CreMax XT makes for a great preworkout.I just use right now caffeine pills for pre and cell tech creatiean for post and see some nice results but I'm looking for some new pre that really gives a pump and good post any you can grab from gnc ect...
What's your opinion on Glycerol. I've tried some PWOs but haven't noticed anything special. Thou I believe there was only about 1-1,5g per dose.Stim wise:
AEN Steel Edge
CL White Rapids
OL Conqu3r
Non-Stim Pre-workout: and add your own caffeine
IFN Finish Line
Scivation Xtend Perform
USP Labs Max Reps
PES Ergonine
OL Conqu3r Non-Stim
PES High Volume
If you want to add some extra bulk ingredients to your stim pre-workout look to reach
6-8g of citrulline
1-1.5g Agmatine
2-4g of Hydromax/Glycerol
Nitrates are also incredible for pumps.
As for post-workout, go home and eat.. Or take a shake with you and add water at the gym and eat some rice cakes, granola, trail mix on the side. It will be far more cost effective then buying something with simple carbs and protein like cell tech. The window of "opportunity" is much greater than people make it out to be, and for most cases food is overlapping into the post-workout period, so the need for something instant is not as great as you think it is. But if you are sold on having a shake or prefer to do so i would bring your own and your own carb sources.
If you do want a carb+Protein drink : Torrent from Universal , Dark Matter from MHP
This cannot be beat.You can get a 1.2 kg tub of creatine mono for about $15( a 1 year supply) . Grab some Agmatine, potassium nitrate and with your caffeine you will be set.
I have to echo CreMax XT as something you should use alongside a stim or even non stim pre workout. CreMax XT can be used as a non stim, but would stack nicely with something like Hemavo2 Max, High Volume and one of my favorites, Noxygen.I wouldn't waste your time with the cell tech, you could save a lot of money using regular creatine mono. I would suggest looking into CreMax XT. CreMax XT works great as a non-stim preworkout and includes a full serving of creatine, so you could drop the celltech and save yourself some money. CreMax XT also contains glycerol to deliver a nice pump. 200mg of caffeine with CreMax XT makes for a great preworkout.
My other go-to stim preworkouts are as follows:
Hypermax XT - Performax Labs
Max Out - iForce
Mesomorph - APS Nutrition
Stimul8 is the jam man!In my experience
1: = Mesomorph
2: = Cannibal Ferox Amped
3: = DS Frenzy + Crave V2 1 scoop of frenzy with 1 - 2 scoops of craze v2
4: = Hyde V2, lost effectiveness due to mass tolerance to caffeine, would prob hit hard now after my 30 day caffeine break
5: = ANS Ritual
6: = Cobra Labs The Curse
7: = C4 Extreme = tastes great but need 3 scoops for it to give slight boost so not cost effective.
some still left for me to try include DUST, V2 and the newer DMAA version when it is released, Conquer Unleashed which I have a sample and will report back next week on it effects, and Hyper Max and the XT version.
also heard Stimul8 is a strong PWO.
My Best Pump based ones have to be PES High Volume no 1, and no 2 would be HEMAV02 MAX. has anyone tried Rich Piana's Full as Fuc* PWO because the doses of actives seem to be effective. or 5150 his stim based version.
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