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One last time! CREATINE WHEN CUTTING?

Camaro1

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Current supps: D-Pol(test booster) Beast supertest(test booster) preworkout caffeine and agmatine and citrulline
Along with kre alkalyn

Stats: 6"2, 234 lbs, 17% bf, lifting 15 years, I wanna get ripped once and for all naturally, I'm sick of just being a big guy...do I drop the creatine to save the bloat or keep? Mixed reviews on this...
 
You can keep the creatine. However I would suggest switching kre alkalyn for regular creatine
 
personally supplement out creatine when im cutting and use creatine when im trying to build and gain strength
 
This is a good question as I'm kind of in the same boat. Cutting and trying to keep the muscle mass. Have not stopped the Creatine because I assumed it would help with muscle sparing. Not cutting hard though, only about 200 under. Is this a correct assumption?
 
Creatine is perfectly fine to be take year round and be done so. Creatine Mono is still the king of creatine and kre alk has no studies to show it is superior to regular creatine. I would suggest CreMax as it contains TMG as well as electrolytes and tastes pretty damn good
 
Never understood why anyone stops creatine when cutting? If your strength drops due to cal's dropping then why not use something like creatine to aid with strength?
 
Quads_of_Stee said:
Creatine is perfectly fine to be take year round and be done so. Creatine Mono is still the king of creatine and kre alk has no studies to show it is superior to regular creatine. I would suggest CreMax as it contains TMG as well as electrolytes and tastes pretty damn good
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Flavored? How does it taste? Is it gritty like most creatine. I've got cellucor's creatine for now.
 
Why worry about bloat? You want to lose fat and hold onto muscle not just lose weight.

When you get lean if you want to go to the beach or something, sure you can drop it, but you are not as lean as you want to be right now, so do not worry about it.

Like people are saying, it helps you hold onto muscle and strength. If anything it would be worth upping your creatine during a cut.
 
Why worry about bloat? You want to lose fat and hold onto muscle not just lose weight.

When you get lean if you want to go to the beach or something, sure you can drop it, but you are not as lean as you want to be right now, so do not worry about it.

Like people are saying, it helps you hold onto muscle and strength. If anything it would be worth upping your creatine during a cut.
 
Jakethaniel said:
Why worry about bloat? You want to lose fat and hold onto muscle not just lose weight.

When you get lean if you want to go to the beach or something, sure you can drop it, but you are not as lean as you want to be right now, so do not worry about it.

Like people are saying, it helps you hold onto muscle and strength. If anything it would be worth upping your creatine during a cut.
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That isn't really the case.

1) Even when really lean you won't be holding water in the wrong places with creatine.
2) Creatine works through saturation, so no need to "up the dose" in hopes of more benefits.

Keep the creatine OP. I'll be honest sometimes I think people think it is bloating them because they aren't as lean as they wish so they need to blame something (I am not excluding the fact some may legitimately bloat, but most overblow it). ;)

I'd also agree with Josh, no need for the Kre Alk.
 
bolt10 said:
That isn't really the case.

1) Even when really lean you won't be holding water in the wrong places with creatine.
2) Creatine works through saturation, so no need to "up the dose" in hopes of more benefits.

Keep the creatine OP. I'll be honest sometimes I think people think it is bloating them because they aren't as lean as they wish so they need to blame something (I am not excluding the fact some may legitimately bloat, but most overblow it). ;)

I'd also agree with Josh, no need for the Kre Alk.
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1: I meant because it bloats your stomach a bit after taking it.

2: I would have to find it, but there is a study showing I think it was ~40 grams a day reduced myostatin by quite a bit. Not saying do that, but creatine is pretty cheap, so worth keeping the dose 10-15 grams a day.
 
rpm57 said:
Flavored? How does it taste? Is it gritty like most creatine. I've got cellucor's creatine for now.
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taste is very preferential but I usually throw in a scoop of it mixed with purple wraath or some aminos and call that my preworkout, have not had it solo in a while. With creatine mono there will always be some gritty texture but CreMax uses micronized to reduce it as much as possible. You should hardly be able to tell.
Micronized creatine dissolves better than regular mono
 
Josh and Bolt: why no support for Kre-Alkalyn?
 
Jakethaniel said:
1: I meant because it bloats your stomach a bit after taking it.
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So it bloat just the stomach :D?
Bloating of creatine is actually more myth than fact AND if any experience bloating from creatine from a dose of (3-5g) then the problem is the diet.
As example.
Some are eating more than normal on creatine. Adding more carbs. And that will give noticeable increase in subcutaneous water retention.

So to say easiest way:
The water retention from creatine is intra-cellular and not subcutaneous.
 
Camaro1 said:
Current supps: D-Pol(test booster) Beast supertest(test booster) preworkout caffeine and agmatine and citrulline
Along with kre alkalyn

Stats: 6"2, 234 lbs, 17% bf, lifting 15 years, I wanna get ripped once and for all naturally, I'm sick of just being a big guy...do I drop the creatine to save the bloat or keep? Mixed reviews on this...
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Also, during a cut, recovery can be compromised. Creatine and aid in recovery as can Creatinol-O-Phosphate. CreMax contains both ingredients at the right dosage.
 
Danes said:
So to say easiest way:
The water retention from creatine is intra-cellular and not subcutaneous.
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Yes, I was trying to say that. Haha
I meant that, for me at least, when taking 5 grams it can feel heavy in my stomach before digestion. As apposed to people thinking it can make you look puffy all over.
 
machinehead said:
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Wouldn't the Phosphatidylserine adversely impact some people "pre-w/o"? You don't want low cort levels pre-w/o as it can cause fatigue in some people.
 
Whacked said:
Wouldn't the Phosphatidylserine adversely impact some people "pre-w/o"? You don't want low cort levels pre-w/o as it can cause fatigue in some people.
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Nothing to worry about
Stress decreasing is judt a bonus and there are studies showing:

-Helps restore your brain's supply and output of dopamine
-Phosphatidylserine increased brain turnover of norepinephrine, dopamine, acetylcholine and glucose reserves.
 
Danes said:
Nothing to worry about Stress decreasing is judt a bonus and there are studies showing: -Helps restore your brain's supply and output of dopamine -Phosphatidylserine increased brain turnover of norepinephrine, dopamine, acetylcholine and glucose reserves.
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But for fasted AM training (me), where cort is already low, any nutraceuticals which impart additional mental or physical fatigue is not welcomed. :)
 
Creatinol-O-Phosphate seems to be great for the heart when you inject 3 grams. Orally, there is no info, and all research stopped decades ago, according to examine.com. Invalid Link Removed

One half kilo of Universal CreaPure was 3 cents per serv last time I bought it - cheapest I've seen.
 
Whacked said:
But for fasted AM training (me), where cort is already low, any nutraceuticals which impart additional mental or physical fatigue is not welcomed. :)
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Cortisol levels are highest in the morning,
And also higher in the presence of lower blood glucose (such as while training fasted)
 
Whacked said:
But for fasted AM training (me), where cort is already low, any nutraceuticals which impart additional mental or physical fatigue is not welcomed. :)
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You can allways try and if that concern you, take a cup of coffee :)
 
bolt10 said:
That isn't really the case. 1) Even when really lean you won't be holding water in the wrong places with creatine. 2) Creatine works through saturation, so no need to "up the dose" in hopes of more benefits. Keep the creatine OP. I'll be honest sometimes I think people think it is bloating them because they aren't as lean as they wish so they need to blame something (I am not excluding the fact some may legitimately bloat, but most overblow it). ;) I'd also agree with Josh, no need for the Kre Alk.
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100% spot on.

If you think creatine is causing you to look bloated then reality is you're just fat still.
 
Whacked said:
Wouldn't the Phosphatidylserine adversely impact some people "pre-w/o"? You don't want low cort levels pre-w/o as it can cause fatigue in some people.
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It takes a while for that effect to kick in and no, it won't fatigue you, it will likely make you more energetic as you'd sleep better due to normal rather elevated cortisol at night. Plus what Danes said below

Danes said:
Nothing to worry about
Stress decreasing is judt a bonus and there are studies showing:

-Helps restore your brain's supply and output of dopamine
-Phosphatidylserine increased brain turnover of norepinephrine, dopamine, acetylcholine and glucose reserves.
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If you've never taken it that effect could be quite pronounced. About a week into taking 400mg of PS a day, a guy I knew felt so motivated he removed Company of Heroes from his pc, a game he was addicted to, to move on to more productive activities.


Whacked said:
But for fasted AM training (me), where cort is already low, any nutraceuticals which impart additional mental or physical fatigue is not welcomed. :)
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Driven2lift said:
Cortisol levels are highest in the morning,
And also higher in the presence of lower blood glucose (such as while training fasted)
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Yep ^^

Danes said:
You can allways try and if that concern you, take a cup of coffee :)
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Yep ^^

Thanks buds :)
 
Whacked said:
Josh and Bolt: why no support for Kre-Alkalyn?
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Buffered creatine offers no real advantage over plain mono. At least nothing that has been substantiated by research. But wven without the lack of research, it is a stretch to believe it will offer any real benefit since once it enters the gut it will be neutralized and be plain ol' creatine.

This isnt me bashing kre-alkalyn, I mean it isnt bad per se (unlike CEE) it just isnt worth the price compared to how ridiclously cheap mono is. Mono is the best bang for the buck creatine available IMO. Kre-Alkalyn will most offer comparable benefits to mono, just with a higher price tag. But if someone preference is kre-alkalyn and they are convinced it is superior then there is no harm in choosing it over mono (other than cost).
 
^ exactly what I wanted to say, but said better lol

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