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On cycle lethargy

chainsaw

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I am 2 weeks in on a sup3r 11, epistane cycle and having bad lethargy. Any suggestions to help with this
 
Dermacrine is a very common product to run for lethargy issues. I'd include that in and see if it helps.
 
both are great recommendations, I would also consider EpiAndro/Stano or 4-Dhea

EpiAndro will provide some much needed energy, as well as leaning and drying you out.
 
a couple questions...

why no test base?

what supports are you running?
 
Actually the product is gk prohormomes oxandravar. So it's epistane, trenvar, methylclosebol, and hexadrone... but I am low dosing it at 1 cap a day. Running it for 8 weeks

On cycle I am just running cycle support
 
chainsaw said:
Actually the product is gk prohormomes oxandravar. So it's epistane, trenvar, methylclosebol, and hexadrone... but I am low dosing it at 1 cap a day. Running it for 8 weeks

On cycle I am just running cycle support
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With all those compounds you definitely need a base-The aforementioned will all suffice (OL and hard rock are all fully dosed).

What have you ran before? That product already has 4 very potent pro hormones even if you're low dosing.

Also, Add in tudca as two of those are methylated and you want to help out your liver.
 
chainsaw said:
I don't want to use another transdermal, so dermicrine is out of the question
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Look into super-4, super-epi elite, andro the giant, or androvar. All full dosed epi or 4 andro
 
chainsaw said:
Actually the product is gk prohormomes oxandravar. So it's epistane, trenvar, methylclosebol, and hexadrone... but I am low dosing it at 1 cap a day. Running it for 8 weeks

On cycle I am just running cycle support
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What cycle support?

Do you have tudca? If not, you should.

You def need a test base tho too
 
chainsaw said:
Actually the product is gk prohormomes oxandravar. So it's epistane, trenvar, methylclosebol, and hexadrone... but I am low dosing it at 1 cap a day. Running it for 8 weeks

On cycle I am just running cycle support
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Well that explains everything
 
Nothing solves lethargy for me. Some compounds don't give me any, but some do. And even when running a real test base with those compounds that make me lethargic it doesn't help.

IMO if a compounds give you lethargy, nothing is going to solve it. Just either try to tough it out or switch compounds.
 
warbird01 said:
Nothing solves lethargy for me. Some compounds don't give me any, but some do. And even when running a real test base with those compounds that make me lethargic it doesn't help.
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I am 2 weeks in and it's kicking my butt...

That is a lot of different test base to choose from. I haven't run a cycle in over 2 years so I am not up to date on these test base compounds. Which is best?
 
chainsaw said:
I am 2 weeks in and it's kicking my butt...

That is a lot of different test base to choose from. I haven't run a cycle in over 2 years so I am not up to date on these test base compounds. Which is best?
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Lethargy is horrible. Luckily I don't get lethargy from Epi, but superdrol gives me the worst lethargy ever. Barely can function. Only tried it twice and both times I wanted to die and discontinued it after a week or two. Unfortunately m sten recently started giving me lethargy as well, even with a test base+other ****. So i don't run it anymore.

IMO if a compounds give you lethargy, nothing is going to solve it. Just either try to tough it out or switch compounds.
 
warbird01 said:
Lethargy is horrible. Luckily I don't get lethargy from Epi, but superdrol gives me the worst lethargy ever. Barely can function. Only tried it twice and both times I wanted to die and discontinued it after a week or two. Unfortunately m sten recently started giving me lethargy as well, even with a test base+other ****. So i don't run it anymore.

IMO if a compounds give you lethargy, nothing is going to solve it. Just either try to tough it out or switch compounds.
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I never got lethargy from superdrol, worst one I ever ran was m1t, that stuff was poison, hence why I only ran a 2 week cycle
 
warbird01 said:
Nothing solves lethargy for me. Some compounds don't give me any, but some do. And even when running a real test base with those compounds that make me lethargic it doesn't help.

IMO if a compounds give you lethargy, nothing is going to solve it. Just either try to tough it out or switch compounds.
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This is me. Nothing I have tried will help me with aas induced lethargy. And I get lethargy from most hormonal products. Just how it is for me.
 
GK Prohormones... Another Dylan Gemelli company. You couldn't pay me to take his crap. 20mg of Trenavar and 25mg of Methylclostebol. What a waste.

From the OxandroVar website:

"Who am I?

I'm Dylan Gemelli and I was one of the key designers of OxandroVar. I back this product 110%.

Why should YOU trust ME?

Well, my logic is a picture is worth a thousand words, so here are some of my pictures. This kind of look can only be achieved with the amazing GK Pro line."

This is followed by his disgusting pictures. I hope you didn't pay $200 for a bottle of this, OP!
 
mike33511 said:
GK Prohormones... Another Dylan Gemelli company. You couldn't pay me to take his crap. 20mg of Trenavar and 25mg of Methylclostebol. What a waste.

From the OxandroVar website:

"Who am I?

I'm Dylan Gemelli and I was one of the key designers of OxandroVar. I back this product 110%.

Why should YOU trust ME?

Well, my logic is a picture is worth a thousand words, so here are some of my pictures. This kind of look can only be achieved with the amazing GK Pro line."

This is followed by his disgusting pictures. I hope you didn't pay $200 for a bottle of this, OP!
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I bought it 3 years ago before I knew Dylan was a scum bag. I paid less than 40 for it.
 
chainsaw said:
I bought it 3 years ago before I knew Dylan was a scum bag. I paid less than 40 for it.
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At least you got it for a good price.

Like others have said, most orals I have tried give me lethargy, and I've always used real test as a base (TRT dose or more). Clearly, these drugs cause lethargy for reasons other than HPTA suppression.
 
mike33511 said:
GK Prohormones... Another Dylan Gemelli company. You couldn't pay me to take his crap. 20mg of Trenavar and 25mg of Methylclostebol. What a waste.

From the OxandroVar website:

"Who am I?

I'm Dylan Gemelli and I was one of the key designers of OxandroVar. I back this product 110%.

Why should YOU trust ME?

Well, my logic is a picture is worth a thousand words, so here are some of my pictures. This kind of look can only be achieved with the amazing GK Pro line."

This is followed by his disgusting pictures. I hope you didn't pay $200 for a bottle of this, OP!
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Well actually this new Primobol Dex is quite appealing to me.

I would like it better with 10mg Epistane less per cap, but Triumph Trenavar Epi at 20 each isn't that bad. Just add a little td trenavar to two caps and some Epiandro and it should give a nice run.

I would buy it for sure (if I found it for around 60€ or less that is xD)
 
I think I will skip the test base, I don't want to run anymore compunds....

Right now I am getting cramping and very painful pumps, what besides potassium can I do?
 
As some have stated dermacrine would be a great addition to fight the lethargy.
 
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