Olympus Labs EP1C UNLEASHED! Next Generation Epicatechin!

hiimnotcool said:
I'm cutting right now but doing a really high volume routine. I'm thinking of getting this for sure. The increased strength and endurance/recovery is really intriguing. Do you think EP1C Unleashed is viable on a cut or does it 'shine' when in a caloric surplus more? Also, is there a difference between the transdermal and capped? I assume since you guys have both versions there must be some reason for it..

Probably gonna buy some Conqu3r also. Haven't used any Olympus Labs stuff but that profile looks awesome. Will get the stim-free version because I enjoy my morning coffee before lifting.
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I logged it while reversing out of a deficit. Night and day benefits my man.
 
goodvibes said:
I'm sure it's been covered somewhere in this thread but too many to go through. My question is: does TD version increase half life? One cap preworkout for faster absorption and then TD for all day release? Or can I get away with just capped versions? I do prefer the bolus dose when it comes to epic.
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TD changes the rate of administration, not the half life per say. It is a means to have the same amount released over a longer period based on how quickly it traverses the epidermis into the underlaying vasculature.

And yes the oral dose will raise blood levels more acutely which will be beneficial pre-workout.

Yes you can get away with just the capped version.

Either one will serve as an effective standalone. But I cannot deny that stacking the two was very impressive.
 
goodvibes said:
I'm sure it's been covered somewhere in this thread but too many to go through. My question is: does TD version increase half life? One cap preworkout for faster absorption and then TD for all day release? Or can I get away with just capped versions? I do prefer the bolus dose when it comes to epic.
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Typically TD does increase half-life but what's crazy about this new delivery system is that not only was bioavailability increased but so was half-life. BUT I would advise that for best results you do as you inquired about and run the TD for all day release and oral for a quicker release.

The TD should still be longer acting due to the additional time it takes to permeate through the dermal barrier. SO in a round about way, yes, half-life is greater with the TD BUT not only does the delivery system improve bioavailability but also half-life lol
hiimnotcool said:
I'm cutting right now but doing a really high volume routine. I'm thinking of getting this for sure. The increased strength and endurance/recovery is really intriguing. Do you think EP1C Unleashed is viable on a cut or does it 'shine' when in a caloric surplus more? Also, is there a difference between the transdermal and capped? I assume since you guys have both versions there must be some reason for it..

Probably gonna buy some Conqu3r also. Haven't used any Olympus Labs stuff but that profile looks awesome. Will get the stim-free version because I enjoy my morning coffee before lifting.
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This version of EPIC really shines for any goals. Think about it, the main benefits are increased workloads, endurance, recovery and the like. That helps with any goal :)

You're welcome ;)
 
hiimnotcool said:
I'm cutting right now but doing a really high volume routine. I'm thinking of getting this for sure. The increased strength and endurance/recovery is really intriguing. Do you think EP1C Unleashed is viable on a cut or does it 'shine' when in a caloric surplus more? Also, is there a difference between the transdermal and capped? I assume since you guys have both versions there must be some reason for it..

Probably gonna buy some Conqu3r also. Haven't used any Olympus Labs stuff but that profile looks awesome. Will get the stim-free version because I enjoy my morning coffee before lifting.
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Concerning your first question, I believe Ep1c to supplement and aid whatever your goals are. It will bring out whatever you put in. So yes it will do very nice in a cut. And yes it will do nicely in a bulk.

When you ask if there is a difference between capped and transdermal, the biggest difference is the means of delivery. One method offers more stable levels, while another offers more of a faster peak and clearance. Both are versions are available with the theory being the TD can offer stable levels throughout the day and the cap can offer a pre-workout spike. This enhances the overall effect of epicatechin.

Our testing supports that the two stacked work synergistically to enhance the effects of epicatechin. Our testing also indicates both are effective as a standalone.

Does that answer you questions?
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
Concerning your first question, I believe Ep1c to supplement and aid whatever your goals are. It will bring out whatever you put in. So yes it will do very nice in a cut. And yes it will do nicely in a bulk.

When you ask if there is a difference between capped and transdermal, the biggest difference is the means of delivery. One method offers more stable levels, while another offers more of a faster peak and clearance. Both are versions are available with the theory being the TD can offer stable levels throughout the day and the cap can offer a pre-workout spike. This enhances the overall effect of epicatechin.

Our testing supports that the two stacked work synergistically to enhance the effects of epicatechin. Our testing also indicates both are effective as a standalone.

Does that answer you questions?
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Yes it does. Thank you for that. What i'm gathering from that is basically to buy 1 of each, take the capped PWO (usually 9-10 am for me) then use the TD at night after a hot shower.
 
hiimnotcool said:
Yes it does. Thank you for that. What i'm gathering from that is basically to buy 1 of each, take the capped PWO (usually 9-10 am for me) then use the TD at night after a hot shower.
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Yep that should work just fine.
 
hiimnotcool said:
Yes it does. Thank you for that. What i'm gathering from that is basically to buy 1 of each, take the capped PWO (usually 9-10 am for me) then use the TD at night after a hot shower.
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This is how I, and many other testers, did it.

Also if using both oral and TD, I see no need to take any oral version on rest days. Will extend your bottle a little further, and you can still maintain levels with a TD application in the evening.
 
Alright guys. So by now we hope most of you have placed your orders from Nutraplanet for Ep1c Unleashed. So let's do a little give-away. Of what? Well that's still up in the air. But it will be Olympus Labs products, so something good is guaranteed.

All you have to do is post in this thread your Nutraplanet order ID # as well as what exactly you ordered.

We'll let this go for a bit so we can get a fair amount of people involved and randomly choose a winner.

More details will follow concerning give-away products and time-frame.

Good Luck!!
 
Dma378 said:
Alright guys. So by now we hope most of you have placed your orders from Nutraplanet for Ep1c Unleashed. So let's do a little give-away. Of what? Well that's still up in the air. But it will be Olympus Labs products, so something good is guaranteed.

All you have to do is post in this thread your Nutraplanet order ID # as well as what exactly you ordered.

We'll let this go for a bit so we can get a fair amount of people involved and randomly choose a winner.

More details will follow concerning give-away products and time-frame.

Good Luck!!
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Awesome opportunity for all who ordered, Goodluck guys!
 
Dma378 said:
Alright guys. So by now we hope most of you have placed your orders from Nutraplanet for Ep1c Unleashed. So let's do a little give-away. Of what? Well that's still up in the air. But it will be Olympus Labs products, so something good is guaranteed.

All you have to do is post in this thread your Nutraplanet order ID # as well as what exactly you ordered.

We'll let this go for a bit so we can get a fair amount of people involved and randomly choose a winner.

More details will follow concerning give-away products and time-frame.

Good Luck!!
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530492

2x Ep1c Unleashed and 1x Nutraplanet ALA
 
Order #530498. One bottle of Unleashed Transdermal. Hoping for a nice recomp in a stack with my other OL products: Ostar1ne and Elim1nate. I have to say I'm very excited about this!
 
Any reason I couldn't stack eliminate with ursolic acid and unleashed? Concerns with crushing cort/estrogen? Maybe just 50mg since I normally take 75mg stand alone
 
chedapalooza said:
Any reason I couldn't stack eliminate with ursolic acid and unleashed? Concerns with crushing cort/estrogen? Maybe just 50mg since I normally take 75mg stand alone
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No concerns. Ep1c will have no further effect on estrogen. And here is a little info on it's relationship with cortisol. Probably better read than by me trying to repeat it!! Hope it helps.

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I had a couple questions about this new Ep1c Unleashed...
Since it's a proprietary blend, how do we know how much epichatechin we are getting with each dosage? According to the old Ep1c, there was 300mg epi in each serving. How does the new product compare? What makes this new one so much more effective than the old one, just the stuff added in to enhance bioavailability and absorption? Is there more/less epi?

Sorry for so many questions, I'm just curious based on my suspicion of any proprietary blend. I love OL and am almost always using at least one of their products so I'm sure this product blows other companies' out of the water as always, I just wanna know WHY!
 
BamBam0319 said:
I had a couple questions about this new Ep1c Unleashed...
Since it's a proprietary blend, how do we know how much epichatechin we are getting with each dosage? According to the old Ep1c, there was 300mg epi in each serving. How does the new product compare? What makes this new one so much more effective than the old one, just the stuff added in to enhance bioavailability and absorption? Is there more/less epi?

Sorry for so many questions, I'm just curious based on my suspicion of any proprietary blend. I love OL and am almost always using at least one of their products so I'm sure this product blows other companies' out of the water as always, I just wanna know WHY!
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we can not disclose the amount of epi to prevent copy cats from stealing our formula but rest assured....there is a VERY good amount of epi in there.. The advanced absorption is truly what makes this product excel.
 
BamBam0319 said:
I had a couple questions about this new Ep1c Unleashed...
Since it's a proprietary blend, how do we know how much epichatechin we are getting with each dosage? According to the old Ep1c, there was 300mg epi in each serving. How does the new product compare? What makes this new one so much more effective than the old one, just the stuff added in to enhance bioavailability and absorption? Is there more/less epi?

Sorry for so many questions, I'm just curious based on my suspicion of any proprietary blend. I love OL and am almost always using at least one of their products so I'm sure this product blows other companies' out of the water as always, I just wanna know WHY!
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To further elaborate on my colleagues response

I understand and applaud your inquiry. Normally I am not a fan of prop blends, but after the extensive research, formulation, and testing of this product, this was done to protect all the hard work put into this product.

Concerning your question, how does the new product compare, it's in a whole new league, you really can't compare it with any other epi product. Without getting into too many details, the Phytofuse delivery system changes the way the body incorporates epicatechin altogether. We didn’t just add stuff, we changed how the body comes into contact with epicatechin on a molecular level, thus increasing its bioavailability by addressing how it interacts with the GI system and the epidermis. Using the Phytofuse delivery system, epicatechin reaches higher blood concentrations and thus produces a more profound effect. But do not be mistaken, we didn't just mix the Soy PC and epi together into a pill, we fused them into a single ingredient that interacts with the body in a different way. Then we added EGCG ontop of that, which again increases bioavailability. Ep1c has one intended goal, increase epicatechin’s ability to reach the blood stream intact. We fused two ingredients and then added a secondary enhancer to amplify it’s effects.

We redesigned what it means to supplement epicatechin by directly addressing its biggest hindurance(the bioavailability) at a molecular level. The beauty is in how our final product is fused, it creates a structure that supports absorption at 300-600% of what normal epi is absorbed at. I’m afraid I can’t go into too much more detail than that.

And I would like to mention, no secondary enhancers such as EGCG were used in the alpha tester’s version of the products. We wanted to demonstrate that the Phytofuse delivery system works, and works extremely well. Then once that was demonstrated, we made it better.

Also, we made sure that our Phytofuse technology increases bioavailability of oral and transdermal administration.

As far as how much epi is in there...more/less? That I cannot answer for the reasons I stated above, but I promise we are not shortchanging you. We are giving you a very generous dose of epi on top of the new delivery system.
 
Wow. I love what I'm hearing. Thanks guys!
 
You are very welcome
 
Order #530496
2 x EP1C Unleashed caps

Gonna add it to current run of Ostar1ne, then along side Sup3r pct.

Expect to get it tomorrow... Ready!
 
Dma378 said:
No concerns. Ep1c will have no further effect on estrogen. And here is a little info on it's relationship with cortisol. Probably better read than by me trying to repeat it!! Hope it helps.

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Thanks for the link good stuff. Was more so concerned about stacking eliminate w ursolic acid
 
chedapalooza said:
Thanks for the link good stuff. Was more so concerned about stacking eliminate w ursolic acid
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Lol, gotcha!! Hadn't really read much on Ursolic Acid until your posts here. But it appears to be pretty weak as an AI. Maybe your plan of 50mg Elim1nate would be good in this case.
 
Liking what im seeing folks!!! Get those order #s in!
 
Order #530764

2 x Ep1c unleashed caps
1 x box quest bars

Still have half bottle of OG ep1c I was gonna finish first. But this thread has me excited, might just save the other half for later and start the unleashed as soon as it comes in.
 
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