OL UK product request thread

We have multiple releases in queue, one is a novel fat burner and another as mentioned earlier is a test base. This summer is gonna be good ;)
 
Olympus UK said:
We have multiple releases in queue, one is a novel fat burner and another as mentioned earlier is a test base. This summer is gonna be good ;)
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Test base is going to be awesome, 4 andro seems to not be that great of a test base, ment seems a little harsh and cant combine with tren. I am not sure about others opinions but I hope it is available in pill or liquid form unlike dermacrine. Not a fan of topicals.
 
GettinSwolen said:
Test base is going to be awesome, 4 andro seems to not be that great of a test base, ment seems a little harsh and cant combine with tren. I am not sure about others opinions but I hope it is available in pill or liquid form unlike dermacrine. Not a fan of topicals.
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What do you mean by 4 andro not being a good test base?
 
YoungBodyBuil said:
What do you mean by 4 andro not being a good test base?
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Just reading various people posting it aromatizes into forms of estrogen people haven’t even seen before (wish I had some more validity to back up that claim then reading it on a forum), additionally it appears to raising estrogen more so then test..

Already have my 4 andro for my winter cycle as the base so going to use anyway but disappointed after reading these things.
 
GettinSwolen said:
Just reading various people posting it aromatizes into forms of estrogen people haven’t even seen before (wish I had some more validity to back up that claim then reading it on a forum), additionally it appears to raising estrogen more so then test..

Already have my 4 andro for my winter cycle as the base so going to use anyway but disappointed after reading these things.
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I thought the same but just use an AI on cycle and you're fine, im one of the people who was disappointed too. Im going for Dermatr3st instead
 
GettinSwolen said:
Just reading various people posting it aromatizes into forms of estrogen people haven’t even seen before (wish I had some more validity to back up that claim then reading it on a forum), additionally it appears to raising estrogen more so then test..

Already have my 4 andro for my winter cycle as the base so going to use anyway but disappointed after reading these things.
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Once it converts to Testosterone, it can get aromatized into Estradiol. No unknown estrogenic metabolite. And chemically speaking, it can't increase E2 more than Test itself.
 
YoungBodyBuil said:
I thought the same but just use an AI on cycle and you're fine, im one of the people who was disappointed too. Im going for Dermatr3st instead
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Yea after reading I plan on running an AI on cycle, was hoping I wouldn't but oh well..and trest would be great if I wasnt running tren, two 19-nors could be a bad time. Also I would like to have children down the road and the fact it was original developed as a male contraceptive is a bit scary.
 
xtyler said:
Once it converts to Testosterone, it can get aromatized into Estradiol. No unknown estrogenic metabolite. And chemically speaking, it can't increase E2 more than Test itself.
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Thanks for the info, guess I will see how it treats me. Glad you guys are at least developing a different option though to get back on point of this thread.
 
GettinSwolen said:
Just reading various people posting it aromatizes into forms of estrogen people haven’t even seen before (wish I had some more validity to back up that claim then reading it on a forum), additionally it appears to raising estrogen more so then test..

Already have my 4 andro for my winter cycle as the base so going to use anyway but disappointed after reading these things.
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Haven't even seen before? It's a naturally occurring compound, and all possible conversions are well established in scientific literature. That is one of the strangest, most incorrect claims I've seen regarding the Andros thus far. Your source is extremely mistaken.

xtyler said:
Once it converts to Testosterone, it can get aromatized into Estradiol. No unknown estrogenic metabolite. And chemically speaking, it can't increase E2 more than Test itself.
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^This. x2.
 
Hastur said:
Haven't even seen before? It's a naturally occurring compound, and all possible conversions are well established in scientific literature. That is one of the strangest, most incorrect claims I've seen regarding the Andros thus far. Your source is extremely mistaken.



^This. x2.
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Pretty sure Pogue was the source, not sure if you guys have conflict of interest lol.
 
YoungBodyBuil said:
Pretty sure Pogue was the source, not sure if you guys have conflict of interest lol.
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There is no conflict of interest here, as far as I am aware. This statement: "Just reading various people posting it aromatizes into forms of estrogen people haven’t even seen before " Makes no sense. A naturally occurring compound cannot metabolism into forms of estrogen people haven't even seen before. Biochemistry is not a new field of science, this is a very simple naturally occurring compound with a limited number of potential pathways. I am making this point twice because this is an extremely incorrect pseudo-scientific rumor.

Not even designer steroids aromatize to forms of estrogen people haven't seen before.
 
Hastur said:
There is no conflict of interest here, as far as I am aware. This statement: "Just reading various people posting it aromatizes into forms of estrogen people haven’t even seen before " Makes no sense. A naturally occurring compound cannot metabolism into forms of estrogen people haven't even seen before. Biochemistry is not a new field of science, this is a very simple naturally occurring compound with a limited number of potential pathways. I am making this point twice because this is an extremely incorrect pseudo-scientific rumor.

Not even designer steroids aromatize to forms of estrogen people haven't seen before.
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Well, i've been misinformed by him then, but seeing as he enjoys arguments on here I probably shouldn't have perceived the way he pushed things as intelligence. Thanks for clearing.
 
Hastur said:
There is no conflict of interest here, as far as I am aware. This statement: "Just reading various people posting it aromatizes into forms of estrogen people haven’t even seen before " Makes no sense. A naturally occurring compound cannot metabolism into forms of estrogen people haven't even seen before. Biochemistry is not a new field of science, this is a very simple naturally occurring compound with a limited number of potential pathways. I am making this point twice because this is an extremely incorrect pseudo-scientific rumor.

Not even designer steroids aromatize to forms of estrogen people haven't seen before.
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Agree with YoungBody, thanks for clearing up. When thinking logically it really doesnt make sense to create something science has never seen before but in our defense these andros are relatively new and really no studies have been done on them. I think it is beneficial to question things, even if sometimes they are wrong.
 
YoungBodyBuil said:
Well, i've been misinformed by him then, but seeing as he enjoys arguments on here I probably shouldn't have perceived the way he pushed things as intelligence. Thanks for clearing.
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I have zero issue with him, nor did GettinSwolen state that it was him specifically who made the claim, he said various people. I just wanted to be clear regarding that rumor about 'unknown forms of estrogen' being incorrect. I strive to be as civil as possible pertaining to such matters, so I want to make it clear there is no issue here.

GettinSwolen said:
Agree with YoungBody, thanks for clearing up. When thinking logically it really doesnt make sense to create something science has never seen before but in our defense these andros are relatively new and really no studies have been done on them. I think it is beneficial to question things, even if sometimes they are wrong.
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Just want to add these Andros are not new, in fact, they are naturally occurring metabolites of compounds such as DHEA that already exist within the human body without supplementation. And there are studies pertaining to these compounds that exist, though not regarding supraphysiological dosages orally administered. Though in some cases, as with 1-Andro, there are. Simply put, these are not mysterious new compounds that were designed, we didn't make them, mother nature did.
 
Hastur said:
I have zero issue with him, nor did GettinSwolen state that it was him specifically who made the claim, he said various people. I just wanted to be clear regarding that rumor about 'unknown forms of estrogen' being incorrect. I strive to be as civil as possible pertaining to such matters, so I want to make it clear there is no issue here.



Just want to add these Andros are not new, in fact, they are naturally occurring metabolites of compounds such as DHEA that already exist within the human body without supplementation. And there are studies pertaining to these compounds that exist, though not regarding supraphysiological dosages orally administered. Though in some cases, as with 1-Andro, there are. Simply put, these are not mysterious new compounds that were designed, we didn't make them, mother nature did.
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Dropping science bombs on the uneducated! Now it'd be nice to drop some "new test base information" bombs too Lol

P.s. (not calling anyone uneducated just making a joke , so nobody should be getting hurt)
 
Alpha1agreda said:
Dropping science bombs on the uneducated! Now it'd be nice to drop some "new test base information" bombs too Lol

P.s. (not calling anyone uneducated just making a joke , so nobody should be getting hurt)
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I suspect there's a write-up waiting in the shadows... ;)
 
Hastur said:
I have zero issue with him, nor did GettinSwolen state that it was him specifically who made the claim, he said various people. I just wanted to be clear regarding that rumor about 'unknown forms of estrogen' being incorrect. I strive to be as civil as possible pertaining to such matters, so I want to make it clear there is no issue here.



Just want to add these Andros are not new, in fact, they are naturally occurring metabolites of compounds such as DHEA that already exist within the human body without supplementation. And there are studies pertaining to these compounds that exist, though not regarding supraphysiological dosages orally administered. Though in some cases, as with 1-Andro, there are. Simply put, these are not mysterious new compounds that were designed, we didn't make them, mother nature did.
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Funny somebody stated otherwise. The andro's are the best known and most researched compounds in this category. We pretty much know anything and everything about their metabolic pathways, unlike most PH's/designers of the past.
 
xtyler said:
Funny somebody stated otherwise. The andro's are the best known and most researched compounds in this category. We pretty much know anything and everything about their metabolic pathways, unlike most PH's/designers of the past.
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Very well put, if people only realized the data was essentially nil for all the popular PH/DS that were on the shelves the past 16 years...
 
Olympus UK said:
We have multiple releases in queue, one is a novel fat burner and another as mentioned earlier is a test base. This summer is gonna be good ;)
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summer is here in Texas, so what's the word on the street ?
when it will drop I need a test base for my next cycle in July!
 
GNO said:
That's probably too close to call bro. I def would not guarantee July 10th.
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But orig1n will be sooner than that correct? ;)
 
BamBam0319 said:
I wonder if it would be good to use on cycle too...
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Sure would .... extra anabolism without undue stress on your body. There is a school of thought that natty anabolics should be saved for off-cycle butttt you could do both. :fest30:
 
GNO said:
Sure would .... extra anabolism without undue stress on your body. There is a school of thought that natty anabolics should be saved for off-cycle butttt you could do both. :fest30:
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I mean, I'm gonna be using EvoMuse BMP while on my next cycle and it's natty. I think it depends on what the effects are of the natty products and if they would be overshadowed by the hormones or if they would enhance them. I've been told that BMP enhances or promotes anabolism via other pathways so I'm wondering if Orig1n would be useful to that effect as well!
 
BamBam0319 said:
I mean, I'm gonna be using EvoMuse BMP while on my next cycle and it's natty. I think it depends on what the effects are of the natty products and if they would be overshadowed by the hormones or if they would enhance them. I've been told that BMP enhances or promotes anabolism via other pathways so I'm wondering if Orig1n would be useful to that effect as well!
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Or1gin works on completely different pathways to what BMP targets.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
It will, like BMP will, synergise with exogenous androgens. No doubt about that.
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Ahhh sweet! Looks like I'll be running this alongside the majority of my long ass cycle.
 
Quads_of_Stee said:
wait BMP synergizes with exogenous androgens? i must've missed a lot in dsade's write-up lol
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Stated in the writeup:
dsade said:
While certainly not necessary, these should provide a synergistic effect. For more information on the specifics, see the post on Anabolic Minds here.
MyoSynergy Elite
X-Factor
Any anabolic/androgenic steroid or prohormone that you’re currently taking
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