ari4216
Banned
im not awhere of the correlation between test and facial hair, of course test increases facial hair, but this also greatly has to do with genetics.
i have a very full beard at 19 and at 12 i already started to get facial hair.
ok im almost 19
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im not awhere of the correlation between test and facial hair, of course test increases facial hair, but this also greatly has to do with genetics.
i have a very full beard at 19 and at 12 i already started to get facial hair.
Necroticism
Well-known member
i grew a goatee in 9th grade, and a full beard at 15 years old...
Irish Cannon
Legend
Screw these natty test boosters, man. You don't need that crap.
Get yourself some DiCreatine Malate / Beta Alanine / RPM / Cordygen5 / Have a blast!
Get yourself some DiCreatine Malate / Beta Alanine / RPM / Cordygen5 / Have a blast!
Force of Green
Well-known member
EasyEJL
Never enough
icariin does raise test a little, but thats not its primary purpose. The point being that spending $40-50 for a month on a product whose whole design is to raise test is likely fruitless for you. At day 4, saying you are seeing results is a bit off as you wouldnt have seen results if you were injecting testosterone in 4 days. Placebo effect, etc. And even at maximal testosterone boost of any herbal product if your levels are low they aren't going to go up hugely. They'll go up sure, but the total amount they go up isn't that gigantic. And at your age unless there is some health problem, they likely wont go up at all.
I'd go with most of what people have already mentioned - massfx is a good choice, proanabol + bad ass mass from ALRI are nice, X-factor is as well. All natural, all help with nitrogen retention in one way or another for muscle growth, and do so far more than a test booster would.
EasyEJL
Never enough
not exactly. the jungle warfare has been thru so many revisions, its hard to say exactly. the ADED is sort of steroidal. not necessarily horrible, but not natural. A natural bodybuilding competition would disqualify you for it... its not particularly worse than hyperdrol x2 tho in my opinion. I'd still avoid it at 19 just to be on the safe side
on a high dose xfactor, slightly updosed proanabol + BAM stack I gained around 2lbs a week, mostly lean. in the end at 7 weeks I had 13lbs of total gain, i'd guess 3lbs was fat
on a high dose xfactor, slightly updosed proanabol + BAM stack I gained around 2lbs a week, mostly lean. in the end at 7 weeks I had 13lbs of total gain, i'd guess 3lbs was fat
Joey0808
Member
yea i used massfx hyperdrol stack earlier in the year not sure of my results i think like 6 lbs.
but the xfactor and proanabol and BAM stack got you lean gains?! i wanna tryyy
does BAM stand for something? ooo bad ass mass
ari4216
Banned
??? Mass Fx is a test booster plain and simple.
proanabol is pretty crappy product
Bam is okay.but its also a test booster
grila jujitsu
Well-known member
dude, buy yourself activate Xtreme, ATD, x-factor. follow that stack up with glycergrow and cre02!
EasyEJL
Never enough
not its not just a test booster, it also has a number of other ingredients that help boost nitrogen retention
11-alpha™ [11alpha,20R-dihydroxyecdysone (20%)], Sea Buckthorn isolated for [Secoisolariciresinol and Matairesinol], 25R-diol™ [(3b,5a,6a,25R)-Spirostan-3,6-diol], Forslean™
yes, the divanyl + white button mushroom would potentially help a little again at 19 I think it would be minimal. but the other ingredients have an impact on nitrogen turnover.
Proanabol is a tricky devil, seems like about a 50/50 chance it works for you or not. If it works the first time then great it will work long term. If it doesn't, it never will. nobody really knows why....
ari4216
Banned
the main movers of mass fx are divanyl and 25-r-diol id say
Supports Testosterone & Delivers Pumps For Increase Muscle Gain!
Mass FX, forged revolutionary gains in raw, animalistic power and lean muscle mass from just one bottle. It created plateau shattering workouts and amplified testosterone levels so high that it unleashed that “do anything, kick-ass, aggressive, strong, confident, dominant male leader of the pack” feeling that we call the “Alpha-Male” in everyone that used it.
Anabolic Xtreme claim it to be a test booster and i believe, yes a test booster PLUS other stuff indeed.
ari4216
Banned
but u recomded mass fx earlier, and now your saying that the main components in mass fx wouldnt work at his age
whatever, im not really trying to /arguemean with you.
Check out my log of Diesel Test Hardcore, a test booster, im 19, and we'll indeed findout if test boosters would work at his age.
Joey0808
Member
ok well lets throw this into the mix i kno prolly TMI but its medical ok
i had hernia as baby so i had to lose a teste
so i got one now but its oversized compared to a reg set because i think cuz it has compensated for both
i had a blood test a while back like a year ago
supposedly my test levels are fine but i didnt ask for a number
so would the stuff work better? i pretty manly i guess lol
i had hernia as baby so i had to lose a teste
so i got one now but its oversized compared to a reg set because i think cuz it has compensated for both
i had a blood test a while back like a year ago
supposedly my test levels are fine but i didnt ask for a number
so would the stuff work better? i pretty manly i guess lol
ari4216
Banned
wow thats some mest up sht. Now that u said that i wouldnt know if u should take any of this stuff, one ball? i dunno the possible contradications of that, ud have to ask ur doctor about taking anything relating to test
steelhorse
New member
test boosters at your age is not a good idea.. eat pleant of wholesome meals 4 or 5 a day keep on the wieghts you'll gain some
eat lots of eggs..grains..wheat..
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EasyEJL
Never enough
I'm saying he'd see minimal impact from the divanyl + white button musroom, but would see some nice nitrogen retention from the rest which equals lean mass gains.
After the dth product go ahead and look for a book or ebook of the Anabolic Solution by Mario Pasquale and try following that for a month to six weeks, and i'll bet you get as good or better results than from dth.
If you were 29 instead, would be a bit different, and 39 would be major different.
Joey0808
Member
well trusttt me im a functional 18 year old 
but i could call or something and ask him idk though with him being a doctor like "o roids are bad no help *****hh"
but im 6'1 and half like a solid 215 right now kinda hairy
went through my acne stage then used accutane
i kno most people seeing me with my scars on my shoulders and now that i have gained close to 40lbs since i first started working out are like "juicerrrr"
but i could call or something and ask him idk though with him being a doctor like "o roids are bad no help *****hh"
but im 6'1 and half like a solid 215 right now kinda hairy
went through my acne stage then used accutane
i kno most people seeing me with my scars on my shoulders and now that i have gained close to 40lbs since i first started working out are like "juicerrrr"
EasyEJL
Never enough
you should be able to call teh dr and get the number(s) or a copy of the whole blood test. Would be helpful to see if they tested LH, SHBG and estrogen. See now I can go backwards and say maybe depending on that the herbal boosters might work for you
ari4216
Banned
i think u can go to primordial performance site and they have a test blood kit for like 100dollars.
i dont u got that kind of money?
ari4216
Banned
a year old?
EasyEJL
Never enough
he said his doctor tested him last year. better to just get those numbers than waste $ on a test
Joey0808
Member
im 18 be 19 at end of march been working out for almost 2years 
in january yea my back nice but lats are what other ppl have said
i have thick skin and that takes away from defintion and vascularity idk if using like a diuretic would help me with that or idkkk
yea i been doing pulldowns more often lately after someone addressed that
yea i had an inguinal hernia and it died but the other is a master chief lol so yea it holds down the fort i was like 1 or 2 got a nice scar
so just call him and say hey send me a copy of my bloodwork?
in january yea my back nice but lats are what other ppl have said i have thick skin and that takes away from defintion and vascularity idk if using like a diuretic would help me with that or idkkk
yea i been doing pulldowns more often lately after someone addressed that
yea i had an inguinal hernia and it died
but the other is a master chief lol so yea it holds down the fort i was like 1 or 2 got a nice scarso just call him and say hey send me a copy of my bloodwork?
ari4216
Banned
im 18 be 19 at end of march been working out for almost 2years
i have thick skin and that takes away from defintion and vascularity idk if using like a diuretic would help me with that or idkkk
yea i been doing pulldowns more often lately after someone addressed that
yea i had an inguinal hernia and it died
so just call him and say hey send me a copy of my bloodwork?
you play halo?
ari4216
Banned
yeaaa im prettty
got all the achievements
oh an achievement guy...haha
i just like to play online.
Joey0808
Member
is there anything wrong with smoking a little weed every now and then?
because if used effectively it can be a great tool in making gains lol
if you eat super healthy while dealing with the munchies it can be grrreaaaattt idk if anyone has ever done that but i wanna keep the convos going
because if used effectively it can be a great tool in making gains lol
if you eat super healthy while dealing with the munchies it can be grrreaaaattt idk if anyone has ever done that but i wanna keep the convos going
ari4216
Banned
yeah its better than drinking alcohol
hahahaha
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I was hoping you could go into a little more detail about the effects of smoking marijuana on building muscle? I am a bodybuilder and I find the weed helps me with my appetite and it helps to combat the aggression and moodiness that can go along with steroid use.
One thing I know for sure is that it definitely helps to increase your appetite. Everyone knows that the difference between a 300 lb. bodybuilder and a 250 lb. bodybuilder all things being equal is the amount of calories they intake. So, if weed makes you eat like a horse then I don't see ay reason why you shouldn't use it as an aid for calorie consumption. Now, as far as the adverse effects from smoking weed; the only thing I know for a fact is that it raises your estrogen levels but I don't necessarily know that estrogen being raised is a bad thing. Also, as long as it doesn't make you lazy to the point that it affects you from being a productive person, then smoke away. Personally I don't smoke weed because it makes me extremely lazy.
hahahaha
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I was hoping you could go into a little more detail about the effects of smoking marijuana on building muscle? I am a bodybuilder and I find the weed helps me with my appetite and it helps to combat the aggression and moodiness that can go along with steroid use.
One thing I know for sure is that it definitely helps to increase your appetite. Everyone knows that the difference between a 300 lb. bodybuilder and a 250 lb. bodybuilder all things being equal is the amount of calories they intake. So, if weed makes you eat like a horse then I don't see ay reason why you shouldn't use it as an aid for calorie consumption. Now, as far as the adverse effects from smoking weed; the only thing I know for a fact is that it raises your estrogen levels but I don't necessarily know that estrogen being raised is a bad thing. Also, as long as it doesn't make you lazy to the point that it affects you from being a productive person, then smoke away. Personally I don't smoke weed because it makes me extremely lazy.
ari4216
Banned
and then look at this
It is rare for a bodybuilder to take only a single steroid. Usually bodybuilders will take a number of steroids along with other illegal and prescription drugs.(2)
An editor of one bodybuilding publication put it this way:
Ironman Magazine published the "Off-Season" as well as this "Pre-Contest" drug cycle that shows the amounts of pot used by a certain professional bodybuilder. The note, transcribed from the pro's handwritten note emphasized, "This is nonstop-no time off." He's also poppin Percadan!
Ironman Magazine published the "Off-Season" as well as this "Pre-Contest" drug cycle that shows the amounts of pot used by a certain professional bodybuilder. The note, transcribed from the pro's handwritten note emphasized, "This is nonstop-no time off." He's also poppin Percadan!
"They spend their days in an anesthetized existence, numb from the realities of the world. They are high...when they train, when they eat, when they sleep and best of all, when they are on stage. That's right, onstage! Take a close look at your favorite bodybuilder the next time you see them on stage or walking the Expo of a big show."(3)
John Romano put it like this:
"Some bodybuilders cop a bag of weed or a little blow from time to time. Some take it a little further, to Nubain and other pain killers, to crystal meth, Ecstasy, GHB, special-K and sucking off the whippet canister, many times all stacked together. Chances are if you do drugs, you do drugs."(4)
Drug use like this can open up a doorway to another universe beyond the material world. Becoming involved in this kind of drug use can make ordinary reality seem drab in comparison. Under the influence of drugs, this realm has been referred to as the "sorcerers world", a world that is inhabited by entities who can masquerade in any form that best suits there purpose.(5)
It is rare for a bodybuilder to take only a single steroid. Usually bodybuilders will take a number of steroids along with other illegal and prescription drugs.(2)
An editor of one bodybuilding publication put it this way:
Ironman Magazine published the "Off-Season" as well as this "Pre-Contest" drug cycle that shows the amounts of pot used by a certain professional bodybuilder. The note, transcribed from the pro's handwritten note emphasized, "This is nonstop-no time off." He's also poppin Percadan!
Ironman Magazine published the "Off-Season" as well as this "Pre-Contest" drug cycle that shows the amounts of pot used by a certain professional bodybuilder. The note, transcribed from the pro's handwritten note emphasized, "This is nonstop-no time off." He's also poppin Percadan!
"They spend their days in an anesthetized existence, numb from the realities of the world. They are high...when they train, when they eat, when they sleep and best of all, when they are on stage. That's right, onstage! Take a close look at your favorite bodybuilder the next time you see them on stage or walking the Expo of a big show."(3)
John Romano put it like this:
"Some bodybuilders cop a bag of weed or a little blow from time to time. Some take it a little further, to Nubain and other pain killers, to crystal meth, Ecstasy, GHB, special-K and sucking off the whippet canister, many times all stacked together. Chances are if you do drugs, you do drugs."(4)
Drug use like this can open up a doorway to another universe beyond the material world. Becoming involved in this kind of drug use can make ordinary reality seem drab in comparison. Under the influence of drugs, this realm has been referred to as the "sorcerers world", a world that is inhabited by entities who can masquerade in any form that best suits there purpose.(5)