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OG Anabeta Discontinued?

paula said:
Is the new abe is not enough the main ingredients that found on og anabeta?
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Anacyclus pyrethrum in AnaBeta Elite is a stronger extract/more potent then in the old and original.
 
R1balla said:
What? Lol
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Haha, that's not half as bad as some of the people on here. A lot of people don't understand the difference between a statement and a question. They constantly mis-use the question mark. I believe Paula may be from a different country though where English is not the first language.
 
T-Bone said:
Haha, that's not half as bad as some of the people on here. A lot of people don't understand the difference between a statement and a question. They constantly mis-use the question mark. I believe Paula may be from a different country though were English is not the first language.
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I just didn't understand what he was saying lol
 
R1balla said:
I know there are people who love abe, but to the average consumer who doesn't post on forums, which sounds better? Anabeta or anabeta elite? That is 1 reason why sales are down on anabeta.
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Our sales have been great. Research has shown people prefer ABE over standard AB. Both sales on ABE and overall preference supports that your stance is the minority unfortunately.
 
LiveToLift said:
Our sales have been great. Research has shown people prefer ABE over standard AB. Both sales on ABE and overall preference supports that your stance is the minority unfortunately.
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What research? Only done on the forums? When the average consumer that isn't educated like most on here are, of course they will prefer anabeta elite over anabeta simply because it sounds better.

Not all of us want forskolin. And if I do, I'd rather buy my own and add it to AB
 
R1balla said:
What research? Only done on the forums? When the average consumer that isn't educated like most on here are, of course they will prefer anabeta elite over anabeta simply because it sounds better. Not all of us want forskolin. And if I do, I'd rather buy my own and add it to AB
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Forskolin isn't the only reason why it was reformulated. That's all I keep seeing people saying. Lodhra Bark extract and Eleutherococcus senticosus aka Siberian ginseng also are very unique to the formula and offer plenty of benefits.
 
R1balla said:
What research? Only done on the forums? When the average consumer that isn't educated like most on here are, of course they will prefer anabeta elite over anabeta simply because it sounds better. Not all of us want forskolin. And if I do, I'd rather buy my own and add it to AB
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I honestly don't understand what you would like to hear. The choice was made. The points you have brought up actually support our stance besides the statement of people don't like forskolin. Which is very uncommon especially if one is educated in the MANY uses and benefits of forskolin.
 
kbayne said:
Forskolin isn't the only reason why it was reformulated. That's all I keep seeing people saying. Lodhra Bark extract and Eleutherococcus senticosus aka Siberian ginseng also are very unique to the formula and offer plenty of benefits.
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Thanks for touching on this kbayne. Unfortunately the majority of posters here have yet to try the product after reformulation. Which makes it difficult to take their stance of AB being superior seriously. Sorry but just being honest.
 
T-Bone said:
I believe Paula may be from a different country though were English is not the first language.
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"Where" English is not the first language
 
LiveToLift said:
I honestly don't understand what you would like to hear. The choice was made. The points you have brought up actually support our stance besides the statement of people don't like forskolin. Which is very uncommon especially if one is educated in the MANY uses and benefits of forskolin.
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I'm just asking what research has been done since you brought it up, that's all.
 
LiveToLift said:
Thanks for touching on this kbayne. Unfortunately the majority of posters here have yet to try the product after reformulation. Which makes it difficult to take their stance of AB being superior seriously. Sorry but just being honest.
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I was offered to log the product when it first came out but it never was sent. It's just sad to see the overall best (price + effectiveness) being pulled.
 
Whoaa! I was surprised to see that this is what i got answered from r1balla "lol" anyway im sorry if its too hard for you to understand what i am gonna tryng to say, and yes im not american at least i tried my best to speak your language as clearly as possible.
Thanks kbayne, that's what im expecting an answered regarding to my question. R1bella do the honor to correct my grammar again.
 
Still would like this product to maybe be re-released under Analyzed. Ana "beta" was my first experience with PES products and was why I decided to try more products from them. I still like some of the other products they sell but Anabeta was the best. Sorry I'm just not gonna spend an additional $31 dollars per bottle for some extra ingredients. Sometimes "newer" or reformulated products just don't stand up to the original versions. I mean it's happened countless times in the supplement industry. "New and Improved" hardly ever beats the original formulas. I realize the decision has been made but if there is a chance of re-release through Analyzed.....You will make a lot of potential customers very very happy.
 
T-Bone said:
Still would like this product to maybe be re-released under Analyzed. Ana "beta" was my first experience with PES products and was why I decided to try more products from them. I still like some of the other products they sell but Anabeta was the best. Sorry I'm just not gonna spend an additional $31 dollars per bottle for some extra ingredients. Sometimes "newer" or reformulated products just don't stand up to the original versions. I mean it's happened countless times in the supplement industry. "New and Improved" hardly ever beats the original formulas. I realize the decision has been made but if there is a chance of re-release through Analyzed.....You will make a lot of potential customers very very happy.
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I understand where you're coming from but going off feedback/reviews/sales, the majority prefer AnaBeta Elite and for good reason. There are a select few who prefer OG AnaBeta over AnaBeta Elite.
 
Leave it T-Bone....

Trust me, I pouted and pouted and pouted for PES to go back to the old epro and abe.

Wasn't happening. I EVEN asked to carry them under analyzed.....dead....


Was forced to drop PES and go with other supplement companies cause of that.
 
I still appreciate PES tho.

I'm actually trying out Norcodren atm. Got samples from Vitamin Shoppe. Not bad stuff.
 
Johnold said:
Leave it T-Bone....

Trust me, I pouted and pouted and pouted for PES to go back to the old epro and abe.

Wasn't happening. I EVEN asked to carry them under analyzed.....dead....


Was forced to drop PES and go with other supplement companies cause of that.
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No way I'm doing that. I love PES!.
 
I'll still use PES.

I wanna give the Erase Pro another shot.

I only went 1 month on it. That's not enough to give an opinion. More like 12 weeks.
 
Johnold said:
I'll still use PES.

I wanna give the Erase Pro another shot.

I only went 1 month on it. That's not enough to give an opinion. More like 12 weeks.
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I hope you enjoy the new EP, and that we keep you as a customer. Thank you for having faith in us.
 
Synapsin said:
I hope you enjoy the new EP, and that we keep you as a customer. Thank you for having faith in us.
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Yeah about 7 months ago I gave the new reformulated Erase Pro & Anabeta Elite a go for ONLY 1 go. So only 4 weeks. After that I stopped and took a supplement break.

I enjoyed ABE as usually expected. I missed the cortisol control from it and I always will but I'll take the new version.

E-PRO was so so and gave me signs of effectiveness but at a very questionable and slow carefully observed pace. With E-PRO I feel like in order to get happy about it and declare it decent and great as the old version, I'll NEED to run it longer. So if or when I jump back onto PES in the future I'll HAVE TO run both ABE & E-PRO for MINIMUM 12 WEEKS. Especially E-PRO.

I miss Alphamine badly and these samples of Norcodren have me reliving that old good happy feeling I once knew when I took the old Alphamine. Hope Alphamine is still effective after the reformulation too.
 
I would keep with 8 weeks with a 4 week break. 8 weeks is plenty enough with EPRO and seems to be the sweet spot for a run with it.
 
Well that's why I say I need to run ERASE PRO longer than 4 weeks. ATLEAST 8 weeks. Yeah.


I won't dare to mention how long I used the old EPro then....

There are a few people here that ran the New EPRO for 12 weeks. That's not a problem.
 
Johnold said:
Well that's why I say I need to run ERASE PRO longer than 4 weeks. ATLEAST 8 weeks. Yeah. I won't dare to mention how long I used the old EPro then.... There are a few people here that ran the New EPRO for 12 weeks. That's not a problem.
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An AI shouldn't be ran for 12 straight weeks. 8 weeks is the max and that's what you'll get recommended.
 
Johnold said:
Of course. Well, after the first 4 weeks and onto the other 4 I hope to see awesome results.
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The new Erase Pro does take longer to kick in which I'm sure you're aware of.
 
kbayne said:
The new Erase Pro does take longer to kick in which I'm sure you're aware of.
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Yup. WELL aware.

That's why I didn't think only 4 weeks was enough to comment on it the first time I took it.

I'm spoiled to seeing crazy effects within the first 2 weeks like the old erase pro....sighs.
 
Johnold said:
Yup. WELL aware.

That's why I didn't think only 4 weeks was enough to comment on it the first time I took it.

I'm spoiled to seeing crazy effects within the first 2 weeks like the old erase pro....sighs.
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I'd rather have longer lasting effects with the new than the old.
 
Well yeah kinda.

But both have to be cycled off so even if you use erase pro just to tighten up whether the new or old version, it's still a temp tool.

The only thing that could be said about the new vs the old is that you can keep the leanness a PINCH longer than the old.

But again, it's still something to be used as a temp fix or tool.

But I simply just need more than 4 weeks on the new stuff.
 
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