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Obamney 2012 - Barack Obama And Mitt Romney Are Essentially The Same Candidate

I think that as I see these Obama supporters celebrating and partying on TV like they won the Superbowl, they should be responsible on cleaning up all the dead bodies over the next 4 years that die under the Obama administration. Will be a bit more of work once Syria is gone and Obama can finally destroy Iran.
 
:) Game over.

So are you prancing in a bar, raising your hands up in the air taking snapshots of Obama supporters worshiping eugenics health care and wars with your Obama Phone while bathing in fluoride water?
 
ax1 said:
So are you prancing in a bar, raising your hands up in the air taking snapshots of Obama supporters worshiping eugenics health care and wars with your Obama Phone while bathing in fluoride water?

hahaha
 
I wonder what Obama Phone lady is doing right now?

 
ax1 said:
I wonder what Obama Phone lady is doing right now?

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio">YouTube Link</a>

Probably at the GM dealership picking up her new Obama escalade
 
So are you prancing in a bar, raising your hands up in the air taking snapshots of Obama supporters worshiping eugenics health care and wars with your Obama Phone while bathing in fluoride water?

No I'm with your hero and we're very upset. :(
 

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The cliche 'Support the Troops' means absolutely nothing when you pay $2.00 for a bumper sticker, while at the same time allow YOUR government to mistreat our soldiers who return home to be stripped of their benefits, disavowed, and faced with a new and rising epidemic of suicide. Join this group if you're for the cause of freedom, as those 'aware' know that this election was a hoax and there are people out there who believe that we don't have to sit back and watch this country sink into the pits. We need an election with candidates of OUR choice that are debating TRUTHS. This is an attempt to civilly restore our freedom, but we need to unite. We can utilitize Veteran's Day to create a Nationwide occupy movement that can be the first step in restoring balance to the United States of America.
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gregg1494 said:
Wonder how the markets are going to react obammy being reelected? Time to buy precious metals.

The funny thing is wall street loves Obama. This false robin hood has every body fooled and all you have to do is look to the markets.

Monetary easing has pumped billions into the hands of big banks which has allowed them to continue their shady investment practices.
Commodity prices have rises drastically including grains, livestock, metals and oil... All increase as the dollar falls. And as these commodities increase, we get the brunt end of it when we have to buy food at the grocery store and $4 gasoline at the pump. This is all determined by the stock and commodities market, not "drilling" or "supply and demand"

Stock prices of drug companies as well as health insurance companies have sky rocketed. These big rich greedy companies, as Obama has pointed out, are now doing better than ever knowing they will be rolling in cash as the new health care law kicks in everyone in America is covered whether they can afford it or not, courtesy of tax payer dollars.

In communism, the government created a class warfare type campaign, dividing the haves and have nots against each other, always blaming the middle class and lower.class struggles on the greedy rich big corporations... All the while lining their own pockets with payoffs by those same big corporations who "play ball" and align themselves with the communists in order to protect their position and monopolize the sector of market they are in.

Obama has done this with the big banks of wall St, drug companies, health insurance companies, oil companies, military contractors and the list goes on. All while pretending to be the savior who will stop them all, and protect the struggling middle and lower class.

The result will always lead to a diminished middle class and greater gap between the rich/beaurocratic elite and the poor, who are now dependent on government entitlements.

Don't believe me? Then you need a history lesson.
 
I have to be careful what I say on a USA Dominant site. But seriously your people voted things the same.... Hahaha. Wtf can change if its the same.

Obama had a minority and couldn't get anything done. Ppl complain. Logical option. Change. Either majority to Obama to give him the ability this time to make Change. Or DickRommeny minority/majority.


Nope. Duhuuh. We'll keep it the same




No offence to AM members or their opinions. Just saying

iPhone Am.com App is sick
 
GJ Washington state!!!!

iPhone Am.com App is sick
 
Good posts Green and Clemenza!

Did any of you even care to watch Obamney's teleprompter bed time story in front of 10's of thousands of obsessed drooling Hitler Youth maniacs last night? I had more important things to do like go to sleep.

Im honestly shocked that I still see the same reactions on TV as I did 4 years ago of thousands of people hypnotized in some psychotic looney trance as if they just popped ecstasy lased with acid at a Grateful Dead concert.
 
I have to be careful what I say on a USA Dominant site. But seriously your people voted things the same.... Hahaha. Wtf can change if its the same.

Its ok, lol. Its called mass marketing, propaganda and a corporate control of all the mainstream media. The choices are given to us before hand, which is really narrowed down to a choice between coke and pepsi.

I think they said last night that Obama's campaign cost 6 Billion dollars. If people call that a Democracy now you know why things never change.
 
“I’m so glad we had that storm last week”

-Chris Mathews, MSNBC last night
 
That's ****ty. Hope it's getting better.

Compared to what others got I can't complain. I have relatives all over Staten Island but I've lost touch with them years ago. Hope they are ok.

But hey, it's all about Obama giving out more cell phones for four more years :) the storm was great!!!
 
Having a liberal system tap you on the head and say "you are one of us" like the education system does is not at all indicative of intelligence. Its indicative of indoctrination into a system.

The left has a huge majority of less than high school education btw.
This is one reason why I have never been convinced of how good they actually are.
 
If you ever served you would know how little we get paid and how poor our equipment really is, this coming from someone in the conventional unit with the MOST funding.


Our military is cutting soldiers left and right to meet the amount the government wants gone. People are getting kicked out for anything and everything and a lot of them are very good soldiers who do their job very well. And, unlike you, I've seen it first hand.

So where is the money going then? You guys have a problem when the government wastes money in other areas, but don't have a problem when it wastes money on defense? What percent of our GDP is the right amount then? 50%? 75%? The same people who get mad at throwing more money at schools defend throwing more money at the military. Logical inconsistency for the win.
 
Its ok, lol. Its called mass marketing, propaganda and a corporate control of all the mainstream media. The choices are given to us before hand, which is really narrowed down to a choice between coke and pepsi.

I think they said last night that Obama's campaign cost 6 Billion dollars. If people call that a Democracy now you know why things never change.

We need to get rid of the big money on both sides of the aisle. Absolutely disgusting. Millionaires and billionaires can buy so much influence.
 
Geoforce said:
So where is the money going then? You guys have a problem when the government wastes money in other areas, but don't have a problem when it wastes money on defense? What percent of our GDP is the right amount then? 50%? 75%? The same people who get mad at throwing more money at schools defend throwing more money at the military. Logical inconsistency for the win.

I never made any argument about how much is right or that we aren't spending enough. I just said that we do not have good equipment or pay and cutting funding would lower the quality of our equipment and benefits even more.

I don't know where it goes but I know for a fact that it doesn't go to fixing our equipment.
 
Geoforce said:
So where is the money going then? You guys have a problem when the government wastes money in other areas, but don't have a problem when it wastes money on defense? What percent of our GDP is the right amount then? 50%? 75%? The same people who get mad at throwing more money at schools defend throwing more money at the military. Logical inconsistency for the win.

I am for a strong military and against wasteful military spending. Is that okay? Or do I have to be for one or the other?
 
Geoforce said:
We need to get rid of the big money on both sides of the aisle. Absolutely disgusting. Millionaires and billionaires can buy so much influence.

you can thank super PACs for that. Both sides
 
I am for a strong military and against wasteful military spending. Is that okay? Or do I have to be for one or the other?

We could cut money and still be strong by eliminating that type of waste. We've already determined it isn't going to soldier pay or equipment so where is the money all going? Why are defense cuts never on the table, but social programs always are or cuts to schools? Why do righties have such a problem with gov't waste in those areas, but it isn't considered waste on the military? I'm not for lowering soldier pay or diminishing their equipment. Why do we have to do that if we lower defense spending? Is that ok? Do I have to be for one or the other (bloated defense spending and better equipment).
 
I don't consider it a waste, and maybe other expenses should be determined after we pay for our military. There is so much waste full programs and **** that don't do anything or help people that don't need help, or help people that don't deserve help. Or government programs that fail, or suck... the post office.
Do you know anyone in the military?

Yes I have friends in the military and one in particular doesn't disagree with me in the least bit on our bloated role as world police and spending.
 
Thats not what we were talking about... you say military spending is a waste. What is are their MOSs?

No you're reading incorrectly. I'm saying we WASTE a lot of money on the military. I never said we should disband the military or anything of the sort. To lower the national debt we need to decrease our spending. We spend more money on defense than the next 10 biggest countries. We can INCREASE soldier pay AND give them better equipment and STILL pay less money. This is achievable. Why is it not? Can that be explained to me?

Why is waste in the post office or social programs a big deal to you, but military waste is not? I'm genuinely asking.

And it is EXACTLY what we are talking about. Nation building and an increased world role requires the type of bloated defense spending we have. We can kick everyone's ass on the planet already, but we need to spend more more more?
 
I don't consider it a waste, and maybe other expenses should be determined after we pay for our military. There is so much waste full programs and **** that don't do anything or help people that don't need help, or help people that don't deserve help. Or government programs that fail, or suck... the post office.
Do you know anyone in the military?

The post office doesn't even take federal funding for its primary operations. How can it be a waste if you're not paying for it?
 
We could cut money and still be strong by eliminating that type of waste. We've already determined it isn't going to soldier pay or equipment so where is the money all going? Why are defense cuts never on the table, but social programs always are or cuts to schools? Why do righties have such a problem with gov't waste in those areas, but it isn't considered waste on the military? I'm not for lowering soldier pay or diminishing their equipment. Why do we have to do that if we lower defense spending? Is that ok? Do I have to be for one or the other (bloated defense spending and better equipment).

please read the constitution, pay attention to the parts on what congress is allowed to do.

At the same time, I'm all for closing off overseas bases to reduce costs, particularly in countries that don't want us there. Again given the new military paradigm, having an agreement with a country that we can use one of their airports if necessary to refuel is as close as we need to a base in those countries.
 
please read the constitution, pay attention to the parts on what congress is allowed to do.

At the same time, I'm all for closing off overseas bases to reduce costs, particularly in countries that don't want us there. Again given the new military paradigm, having an agreement with a country that we can use one of their airports if necessary to refuel is as close as we need to a base in those countries.

I know what the constitution says congress can do and I know they routinely ignore it. My issue is not that I think we should have all these big social programs and what have you merely why is the right always up in clamors about social spending or spending on schools etc, but love big gov't spending on the military? Lends a very hypocritical ear to the supposed party of small government.

I can get behind closing overseas bases as well. I'm for dropping down the national debt by looking to reduce spending everywhere it makes sense. And it makes sense to start by looking at what we spend the most money on and seeing where we could spend less there.
 
I know what the constitution says congress can do and I know they routinely ignore it. My issue is not that I think we should have all these big social programs and what have you merely why is the right always up in clamors about social spending or spending on schools etc, but love big gov't spending on the military? Lends a very hypocritical ear to the supposed party of small government.

I can get behind closing overseas bases as well. I'm for dropping down the national debt by looking to reduce spending everywhere it makes sense. And it makes sense to start by looking at what we spend the most money on and seeing where we could spend less there.

the constitution gives congress the responsibility and right to protect our borders, and regulate commerce between the states. Thats it. there is no place for them to spend money on social programs, education, etc. But very much so their job is to protect us from outside aggressors. So its much harder to argue against cuts to something that they are supposed to be doing vs something they are not supposed to be doing.
 
Because a document written in the late 1700's is infallible, and COMPLETELY applicable in every way to the world we operate in today.
 
Because a document written in the late 1700's is infallible, and COMPLETELY applicable to the world we live in today.

it is the contract that limits (in theory) the power of our federal government, which this country was founded on. There are mechanism to make changes to it via amendments, and it has been done numerous times in the past. It was never meant to be changed by activist judges of either party, nor was it ever meant to restrict the powers states have over things that occur only within their state - medical marijuana for instance.
 
it is the contract that limits (in theory) the power of our federal government, which this country was founded on. There are mechanism to make changes to it via amendments, and it has been done numerous times in the past. It was never meant to be changed by activist judges of either party, nor was it ever meant to restrict the powers states have over things that occur only within their state - medical marijuana for instance.

And the landscape of this country is quite different, both culturally and politically. Evolve...or don't.
 
What are some major changes to where the constitution can not be used to govern today?

I cited some. The cultural diversity of this country is far different than what the founders intended it to be. There are different groups with different interests, thus why voting blocks are broken down by demographics. As an example, Romney lost the hispanic vote by a wide margin because he didn't get behind the Dream Act and spoke about things like self deportation, which is ironic considering he self deported a little after midnight last night.
 
And the landscape of this country is quite different, both culturally and politically. Evolve...or don't.

And there is a process for that, called amendments. Its a pity you are such a dumb@ss that you can't understand that. But its what I expect from democrats, ask for the law and contracts to shield them, right up until they prove inconvenient for their stupidity. Just like unions.
 
And there is a process for that, called amendments. Its a pity you are such a dumb@ss that you can't understand that. But its what I expect from democrats, ask for the law and contracts to shield them, right up until they prove inconvenient for their stupidity. Just like unions.

It's a pity that you're so uneducated you refuse to acknowledge simple truths, so rather, you opt to hitch your wagon to something written in the late 1700's. How's that working out for you? Again, evolve or don't, or rather get a passport see the rest of the world from your tiny little lens. I've read your posts here and on FB...yawn.
 
This has been a sad 24 hours. Back in 2004 I wanted George W. Bush out in the worst way, and was literally depressed at the time of his reelection. Guess what...in 2004 I was right.

This year, although I literally and truly disliked Romney I felt we were at a stage where Obama needed to go. (Come January, all of those of you who work will understand why.) The campaign that Obama ran was horribly dishonest (push grandma over a cliff, Romney and the women dying of cancer, etc...), and to top it off the media completely covered the Benghazi story so that it had no impact (thank you CBS and the 6 week lag time on the video). As of last night I knew pretty early it was going to be a long night. Once NC and Va were still hanging on, it was all but over. With that said, I hope that those of you who voted in the exact Legislature and Executive that we had previously are happy with the gridlock we had previously. Nothing will get done, and to make it worse Obamacare is here for good. Say hello to major financial concerns for the small businesses that Obama touts, and more major layoffs, never mind the tax hikes. There are times I am proud of this country, and now is not it.

I say all this as a libertarian, who has no tie to either party. It is truly a sad day when a good majority continually wants handouts rather than try to build the economy. We are growing at a measly 2%, and our yearly deficits are over $1 trillion. I just had a conversation with one of the Economics teachers that I work with and asked him to "prophesize" where our deficit will be in 4 years. His response at least $20 trillion if we are lucky.

Well done Obama voters.....truly well done
 
The interest of illegal immigrants needs to be protected?

The sensitivity in which you displace those families definitely needs to be addressed. Your world perspective is far different from that of a migrant worker who cannot afford to feed their families. Jan Brewer's approach is the wrong approach. It's the reflexive approach. And it certainly isn't a broad enough approach, where it would dissuade them from coming in illegally to work.
 
It's a pity that you're so uneducated you refuse to acknowledge simple truths, so rather, you opt to hitch your wagon to something written in the late 1700's. How's that working out for you? Again, evolve or don't, or rather get a passport see the rest of the world from your tiny little lens. I've read your posts here and on FB...yawn.

Yes, useless liberal douchebags would call ignoring contracts "evolving". its a nice way to excuse your own lack of any internal consistency or honesty. You label things that are lies "simple truths" because thats all you can do so you can ignore the contract that confines the power of our federal government. Just as somehow you'll lie and say the reason we need to deal with the healthcare issues is that we spend more money than other 1st world countries but get worse and yet say that we need to pour more and more money into educations, when we also there spend more money than any other 1st world country, and get worse results than some 3rd world countries do.
 
The sensitivity in which you displace those families definitely needs to be addressed. Your world perspective is far different from that of a migrant worker who cannot afford to feed their families. Jan Brewer's approach is the wrong approach. It's the reflexive approach. And it certainly isn't a broad enough approach, where it would dissuade them from coming in illegally to work.
so those that are illegal are subject to the same rights and privileges that citizens are?

please note, I am the son of an immigrant
 
The sensitivity in which you displace those families definitely needs to be addressed. Your world perspective is far different from that of a migrant worker who cannot afford to feed their families. Jan Brewer's approach is the wrong approach. It's the reflexive approach. And it certainly isn't a broad enough approach, where it would dissuade them from coming in illegally to work.
sensitivity for people who illegally crossed the border? sensitivity for people who have no right to be on US soil? **** them nasty dirty beaners.
 
Ohhh he will get the debt to $20 easily. At that point we will be spending all of our revenue on entitlements and interest. Bye bye good ol USA
Its interesting, as people do not seem to understand how devastating this will be, and specifically when you look at the increases annually in entitlements. We are slowly taking away peoples desire to contribute through work. Why work, when the governmnet will employ you to sit :)

What I have the hardest time wrapping my head around is that I busted my a$$ to get 2 masters degrees to move up and make more $ to keep my family in a comfortable situation. To do that, I am paying an arm and a leg in student loans, but thats ok as I agreed to do that from the beginning. However, now with the newer taxes the $ I busted my a$$ for will be "distributed" to those who dont have it. Wow....just wow
 
AE14 said:
Its interesting, as people do not seem to understand how devastating this will be, and specifically when you look at the increases annually in entitlements. We are slowly taking away peoples desire to contribute through work. Why work, when the governmnet will employ you to sit :)

What I have the hardest time wrapping my head around is that I busted my a$$ to get 2 masters degrees to move up and make more $ to keep my family in a comfortable situation. To do that, I am paying an arm and a leg in student loans, but thats ok as I agreed to do that from the beginning. However, now with the newer taxes the $ I busted my a$$ for will be "distributed" to those who dont have it. Wow....just wow

we are going to get boned...hard.
 
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