Obamney 2012 - Barack Obama And Mitt Romney Are Essentially The Same Candidate

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I respect your opinion as well. I also revoke my statement saying that everyone in this thread thinks they are "economists". That was far too broad and unfair.

I would also like to hear what tangible contributions you believe you added. Like the president is going to withdraw any decisions made based on what was said in a thread on anabolic minds?
I believe people need to engage and try to get others engaged in political discussions. This is a political forum on anabolic minds for those who want to discuss and debate.

Obviously if you want change things need to broaden further out beyond just a forum, and I strongly encourage that.

Ignorance will be the ultimate demise of this country.
 
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I would like to know why you have such a problem with people voicing their opinions. He is expressing his opinion in the hopes of exposing other members to a different point of view, which is his right.

You came in here, giving nothing of value to the discussion, and just being argumentative. Why is that?
I have no problem with people voicing their opinion. I am glad that we have the right to do so and people take advantage of it. It bothers me when some people take it so far that they almost sound anti-American. Especially since people are bleeding for this country everyday.
 
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I have no problem with people voicing their opinion. I am glad that we have the right to do so and people take advantage of it. It bothers me when some people take it so far that they almost sound anti-American. Especially since people are bleeding for this country everyday.
Lol are you in the military bro? Because I am and I see nothing anti-American with people talking about what they'd like to see in the future.
 
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I have no problem with people voicing their opinion. I am glad that we have the right to do so and people take advantage of it. It bothers me when some people take it so far that they almost sound anti-American. Especially since people are bleeding for this country everyday.
No...no please, I think your taking it wrong. Everyone here has shown nothing but love for this country.

You dont have to love your government to love your country.
 

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It should be very interesting to see how Obama treats the banks this time around....

As most of us know in 2008 Obama took more money from wall street than any candidate, ever. Which is quite ironic in itself considering Obama ran on change and anti wall street. Just goes to show how badly he fooled everyone.

Regardless of how bad the economy has been the past four years, wall street never did better. They've continued to run wild driving up commodity prices like meat, grain, sugar, corn, gold, and oil while making record breaking profits.

This time around, they were not so generous to the Obama campaign. Therefore I can see Obama really sticking it to them these next four years. A bit if revenge, and gets to play the anti big bank hero in his last years in office.

I think we're already seeing this begin with a stock market sell off these past two days.
 
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It should be very interesting to see how Obama treats the banks this time around....

As most of us know in 2008 Obama took more money from wall street than any candidate, ever. Which is quite ironic in itself considering Obama ran on change and anti wall street. Just goes to show how badly he fooled everyone.

Regardless of how bad the economy has been the past four years, wall street never did better. They've continued to run wild driving up commodity prices like meat, grain, sugar, corn, gold, and oil while making record breaking profits.

This time around, they were not so generous to the Obama campaign. Therefore I can see Obama really sticking it to them these next four years. A bit if revenge, and gets to play the anti big bank hero in his last years in office.

I think we're already seeing this begin with a stock market sell off these past two days.
Obama supports the bank of all banks, and thats the Federal Reserve. He has stated he wants to give the Fed. Reserve even more powers, and we see there is no discussion in the debates about the Fed. Reserve issue.

Also his cabinet is loaded with former Goldman Sacchs employees, its sickening.

Both Obama and Romney were supported and financed by the same banks such as JP Morgan, Chase, Sachhs, etc...corporate gave to Romney, and individual contributions went heavily to Obama...thats how you finance both parties.

If there is any war on banks and Obama...its Obama supporting the the big ones eating up the little ones.

Obama is a bank, lol
 

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Obama supports the bank of all banks, and thats the Federal Reserve. He has stated he wants to give the Fed. Reserve even more powers, and we see there is no discussion in the debates about the Fed. Reserve issue.

Also his cabinet is loaded with former Goldman Sacchs employees, its sickening.

Both Obama and Romney were supported and financed by the same banks such as JP Morgan, Chase, Sachhs, etc...corporate gave to Romney, and individual contributions went heavily to Obama...thats how you finance both parties.

If there is any war on banks and Obama...its Obama supporting the the big ones eating up the little ones.

Obama is a bank, lol
Im starting to think whoever runs for office has no choice but to take money from the banks and Fall in line with the fed reserve. It's part of the job description now. Not because they want to, but it's mandatory, or else.
 

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And I think Romney, more of a religious and decent man than Obama... And although took bank money... Would not have been on the take to the extent Obama has. I think Romney would have done what is right for the country, to whatever minor extent possible. And the fed and banks realized this hence deciding to stick with Obama and gave him the election.
 
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Im starting to think whoever runs for office has no choice but to take money from the banks and Fall in line with the fed reserve. It's part of the job description now. Not because they want to, but it's mandatory, or else.
The only people who can get to the top are those who are "in." The elections are bought and payed for by the same people.

Thats why you never see people like Ron Paul get the promotion needed to get to the top. I believe if this election was (and I saw some study about this a while back, forgot where) Ron Paul vs. Obama, Ron Paul would have Obama tossing his salad.

Now...you cant just jump in office and dump the Federal Reserve. You start auditing it, revealing whats going on and then you start phasing it out or changing it by nationalizing it.
 

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Now...you cant just jump in office and dump the Federal Reserve. You start auditing it, revealing whats going on and then you start phasing it out or changing it by nationalizing it.
...and then you get whacked out lol. The fed is bigger than the mafia ever was. They would not tolerate any of this.
 
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[email protected] religious = decent :/
He never said that. For someone who puts so much stock in his intelligence and education you obviously don't read well. He said that he believes him to be more religious AND decent.

Do you even read what people are typing or just read what you want to read and base your argument on what you want to hear/read?
 
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[email protected] religious = decent :/
Bro your snide remarks and comments are very revealing. You're obviously a social leftist whose hatred for religion, the free market and most everything decent about this country make you very bitter.

If you're going to continue to engage in this thread/discussion please at least bring some insight to the table
 
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...and then you get whacked out lol. The fed is bigger than the mafia ever was. They would not tolerate any of this.
Thats what happens, the country is run by the Fed, not the puppet White House. I sometimes have to try to remind myself not to single Obama out so much.

[email protected] religious = decent :/
Relax, lol. Clemenza is religious himself, and he likes a combination of religious and decent.
 

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Ax have you ever read the creature from jeckyll island?
 

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Good friend of mine told me to pick it up, I still have to.

He raves about it though. Talks about how and why the fed began, those behind it, their intentions etc.

Written in the 1980's I think and the author warned about "bailouts". And watch out for bailouts they are always kick backs to the banks. Lol
 
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Good friend of mine told me to pick it up, I still have to.

He raves about it though. Talks about how and why the fed began, those behind it, their intentions etc.

Written in the 1980's I think and the author warned about "bailouts". And watch out for bailouts they are always kick backs to the banks. Lol
Now we have a infinite bailout all printed out of thin air.

Now...this is some insider info I got from someone who has earned my trust. He said the Federal Reserve is buying out every mortgaged house and property in the entire country with the Qe3 80B infinite bailout money. This is both bad mortgages as well as ALL good mortgages. Basically people with good standing mortgages are having their estate secretly bought out by the Federal Reserve.

Now...all this property will all be eventually gambled into the derivatives market, and if the Federal Reserve wins none of the earnings will be to actually stimulate the economy, its going to be for other reasons Im unsure of. If they fail with the gamble, well I hope we dont see that happen.

Now, please take what I just posted with a nano-atom of a grain of salt. This does come from the same person I heard just say about 5 months prior to the Egypt revolution that there was going to be a huge middle eastern crisis, it was going to be long term and it was going to be all CIA funded revolutions and civil wars and the goal was regime change from country to country. I was shocked as this all unfolded over the past year and a half.
 

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Now we have a infinite bailout all printed out of thin air.

Now...this is some insider info I got from someone who has earned my trust. He said the Federal Reserve is buying out every mortgaged house and property in the entire country with the Qe3 80B infinite bailout money. This is both bad mortgages as well as ALL good mortgages. Basically people with good standing mortgages are having their estate secretly bought out by the Federal Reserve.

Now...all this property will all be eventually gambled into the derivatives market, and if the Federal Reserve wins none of the earnings will be to actually stimulate the economy, its going to be for other reasons Im unsure of. If they fail with the gamble, well I hope we dont see that happen.

Now, please take what I just posted with a nano-atom with grain of salt. This does come from the same person I heard just say about 5 months prior to the Egypt revolution that there was going to be a huge middle eastern crisis, it was going to be long term and it was going to be all CIA funded revolutions and civil wars and the goal was regime change from country to country. I was shocked as this all unfolded over the past year and a half.
Insider info? Lol. Sources?
 

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I prefer that you dont believe anything I just posted.
You don't have to worry about that. I think you know where I stand on most of your posts. Hearsay, innuendo and what if scenarios. I googled some of what you stated and all that came up were Ron Paul conspiracy videos and similar websites. (In before you blame mainstream media)
 
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You don't have to worry about that. I think you know where I stand on most of your posts. Hearsay, innuendo and what if scenarios. I googled some of what you stated and all that came up were Ron Paul conspiracy videos and similar websites. (In before you blame mainstream media)
Yes, thats the normalcy I expect from you.
 

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Yes, thats the normalcy I expect from you.
Funny, that's the absurdity I've come to expect from you. "I have a source." Lol. What did you talk to a guy at kinko's? I kid.
 
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Funny, that's the absurdity I've come to expect from you. "I have a source." Lol. What did you talk to a guy at kinko's? I kid.
No, Some drunk at starbucks walking out of the bathroom...well actually he was playing a youtube video on his Iphone as he was walking out and I happen to be lucky enought to catch a glimpse of it.
 

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No, Some drunk at starbucks walking out of the bathroom...well actually he was playing a youtube video on his Iphone as he was walking out and I happen to be lucky enought to catch a glimpse of it.
Now that I actually believe! :)
 
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I respect your opinion as well. I also revoke my statement saying that everyone in this thread thinks they are "economists". That was far too broad and unfair.

I would also like to hear what tangible contributions you believe you added. Like the president is going to withdraw any decisions made based on what was said in a thread on anabolic minds?
I do not believe anyone even remotely assumes that the President is following this thread, although that would be funny. The attempt by many of us here in our discourse with southpaw is to try and show the fallacy that Obama is going to help grow this economy and move us "forward". I know that both ax and I as 2008 Obama voters offer a buyers remorse voice to this discussion. And you have added?
 
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The only people who can get to the top are those who are "in." The elections are bought and payed for by the same people.

Thats why you never see people like Ron Paul get the promotion needed to get to the top. I believe if this election was (and I saw some study about this a while back, forgot where) Ron Paul vs. Obama, Ron Paul would have Obama tossing his salad.

Now...you cant just jump in office and dump the Federal Reserve. You start auditing it, revealing whats going on and then you start phasing it out or changing it by nationalizing it.
Ron Paul got HR 459 (Audit the fed act) through the house with a 327 - 98 veto proof majority. Unfortunately now the senate S 202 has just been sitting there. The senate wont even take up the act it seems.

If you dont pass the audit the fed bill, then it seems you would have something to hide. Opening up the fed for transparency to see what is really going on in there would bring this government to its knee's with respect to public outrage. Then you will see a domino effect of people electing statesman rather than politicians.

Makes me sick we pass crap legislation that just shepherds people like the health control act, but something worthwhile to the people get's stalled.
 
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Still relevant today
 
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Just to be forward, there is a lot of conspiracy theory in those video's that I believe they get wrong, but also a lot of truth in the outcomes, weather they are correct on the beginning, they are definitely correct on the end and where we have gotten. The fed has indebted every American much more than anyone actually realizes.
 

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I do not believe anyone even remotely assumes that the President is following this thread, although that would be funny. The attempt by many of us here in our discourse with southpaw is to try and show the fallacy that Obama is going to help grow this economy and move us "forward". I know that both ax and I as 2008 Obama voters offer a buyers remorse voice to this discussion. And you have added?
Actually, I was swayed when AX told me he had a source, a guy who knew a guy, who had a friend, that was part of an underground online group, which was led by another guy, but turns out it wasn't actually a guy. The plot thickens. So, yes, that convinced me. Happy Friday.
 
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Actually, I was swayed when AX told me he had a source, a guy who knew a guy, who had a friend, that was part of underground online group, which was led by another guy, turns out it wasn't actually a guy...so, yeah, that convinced me. Happy Friday.
Stop misquoting me, I never said underground online group.
 

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Ok great, now go do your prostrations to your Obama and Marx shrine and pray for freebies and handouts.
I'd rather talk you about Alex Jones attempting to board the mothership.
 
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I'd rather talk you about Alex Jones attempting to board the mothership.
Yes...its not just any mothership, but a slightly fuel efficient mothership. Alex got a $2,000 Obama tax rebate on it after he traded in his flying carpet which was slightly a gas guzzler.

Nothing like transferring wealth so people can buy slightly better things.
 

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Yes...its not just any mothership, but a slightly fuel efficient mothership. Alex got a $2,000 Obama tax rebate on it after he traded in his flying carpet which was slightly a gas guzzler.

Nothing like transferring wealth so people can buy slightly better things.
I agree and it benefits everyone. Now he has more time to spend in his mother's basement making youtube videos, which is great because I believe in family.
 
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Hmm trying to discredit anyone with a differing point of view.

I wonder if that's how all liberals handle opposition. Obama did it for this election and now I see you doing it.
 
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I agree and it benefits everyone. Now he has more time to spend in his mother's basement making youtube videos, which is great because I believe in family.
Yes, benefiting lazy irresponsible people is very good, those who make effort to be responsible should pay their share. Its only fair, we need more fairness and a equal playing field for the sake of family fairness.
 

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Yes, benefiting lazy irresponsible people is very good, those who make effort to be responsible should pay their share. Its only fair, we need more fairness and a equal playing field.
I agree and I was joking with you. It's Friday, let's call Friday "truce" day.
 
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I agree and I was joking with you. It's Friday, let's call Friday "truce" day.
So joking can only be from one side? We want fairness here dont we? I have a right to blow steam time to time as well, lol
 

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So joking can only be from one side? We want fairness here dont we? I have a right to blow steam time to time as well, lol
Lol. Fair enough. It's Friday and it looks like someone has a case of the Mondays! (Friday is truce day, but Monday...we're back at it lol)
 
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Lol. Fair enough. It's Friday and it looks like someone has a case of the Mondays! (Friday is truce day, but Monday...we're back at it lol)
Cool. And if you really want to solve the mystery from that post I made last night, my source came from live Short Wave Radio, so I cant post a source that Im aware of.
 
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Hmm trying to discredit anyone with a differing point of view.

I wonder if that's how all liberals handle opposition. Obama did it for this election and now I see you doing it.
rule #12 from Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals.
 
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rule #12 from Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals.
I also notice that my last two posts have been conveniently ignored by southpaw. Which is strange, because he always seems to have so much to say.
 
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I also notice that my last two posts have been conveniently ignored by southpaw. Which is strange, because he always seems to have so much to say.
His teleprompter isnt working, that's why he declared this truce friday until he gets it fixed on monday.
 

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