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StanleyG

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Anyone have any experience with them? I am considering giving this noopept a try. Ive been reading a good bit about it and am def intrigued. Was thinking as a part of a low stim pre workout. Something to improve clarity and focus without making me shaky or jittery as hell. Any experience or input with any nootropics would be appreciated.
Also looking into the raticams as well.....
 
When dealing with Noopept and racetams (Noopept isn't a racetam, but it tends to be lumped in the same category), you generally want a choline source with it. Some people get headaches otherwise, and some don't, but cholines have their own benefits in a nootropic stack anyway.

The cheapest choline source would be choline bitartrate. You want a higher dose of this than other choline sources (about 2g IMO), and at this dose it has been shown in a study to have some cognitive-type benefits. CDP-choline and Alpha-GPC are the two common "high-end" choline sources that are more often used not only to provide choline with a racetam, but for their own nootropic benefits. I'd recommend 250mg CDP-Choline or 300mg Alpha-GPC. Both of these are more expensive than choline bitartrate though, so keep that in mind.

As for Noopept and racetams:

I find piracetam to be my racetam of choice for math type activities (calc and physics courses, etc). 2.4g is a good dose, and more is not better, as higher doses have shown return to baseline and diminishing effects.

Aniracetam is my racetam of choice for social/verbal activities (going out on a date, giving a speech, etc). 750mg is a good dose.

Noopept is a good all-around option as well. 10-20mg is a good dose, and I find it gives me good focus and makes me want to organize things.

I'd recommend only one racetam at a time, and I usually don't take Noopept with another racetam, so I'd recommend trying one racetam/Noopept at a time with your choline source of choice.
 
Good response from muscleupcrohn, but I would say that the synergy with Ani and Noop is wonderful. Following his recommendations as newb to the noot and racetam game, keep them separate to assess and then feel free to play around with combos.
 
Good response from muscleupcrohn, but I would say that the synergy with Ani and Noop is wonderful. Following his recommendations as newb to the noot and racetam game, keep them separate to assess and then feel free to play around with combos.
I'll have to try the two of them together then! Do you use 750mg Ani and 10 or 20mg Noopept?
 
When dealing with Noopept and racetams (Noopept isn't a racetam, but it tends to be lumped in the same category), you generally want a choline source with it. Some people get headaches otherwise, and some don't, but cholines have their own benefits in a nootropic stack anyway.

The cheapest choline source would be choline bitartrate. You want a higher dose of this than other choline sources (about 2g IMO), and at this dose it has been shown in a study to have some cognitive-type benefits. CDP-choline and Alpha-GPC are the two common "high-end" choline sources that are more often used not only to provide choline with a racetam, but for their own nootropic benefits. I'd recommend 250mg CDP-Choline or 300mg Alpha-GPC. Both of these are more expensive than choline bitartrate though, so keep that in mind.

As for Noopept and racetams:

I find piracetam to be my racetam of choice for math type activities (calc and physics courses, etc). 2.4g is a good dose, and more is not better, as higher doses have shown return to baseline and diminishing effects.

Aniracetam is my racetam of choice for social/verbal activities (going out on a date, giving a speech, etc). 750mg is a good dose.

Noopept is a good all-around option as well. 10-20mg is a good dose, and I find it gives me good focus and makes me want to organize things.

I'd recommend only one racetam at a time, and I usually don't take Noopept with another racetam, so I'd recommend trying one racetam/Noopept at a time with your choline source of choice.

Exactly the kind of input i am looking for so much apprecitaed.
I like you idea of trying them seperately anyway (with a holine source that is) so I can distinguish just what is providing what in the way of benefit andd then down the road perhaps try a stack of sorts.
Good Stuff! Thanks again!
 
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