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Non Steroids Anabolics

Ephedraboy

Ephedraboy

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Ursolic Acid + Laxogenin (STR3NGTH by Olympus Labs 120ct) are good for gaining Lean mass / fat loss ?
Or are they useless supps ?

Is Olympus Labs products good? ( like EP15TANE for exemple , which is a steroid ).
 
There is plenty of reviews about ursolic acid.

You can also look into arachidonic acid - it seems to be popular these days. I've never tried it though.

Plenty of Olympus Labs logs will pop out soon - you'll see the quality by yourself.
 
Ursolic acid is best transdermal like in prototype nutrition ur spray.

Laxative or w/e I used and it wasn't impressive.

Xgels would be good to stack with ur spray for a nice stack

Me personally, I feel these products are best used in pct to help maintain gains made.
 
Yea im looking at the spawn stack by olympus.. cant make up my mind!

Throw some ara in it as well.. hmm
 
RH2012 said:
thats one that the olympus line could have done without. more is not always better.

but i like x-laxogenin if i get backed up. wait wut? maybe its just xlax that works for that.
if i spray ursolic on my pecker, will it make that muscle bigger? jk unless it will work for that?
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There is not much feedback about STR3NGTH yet. There has been few 5a-hydroxy-laxogenin products out there in the past but Patrick Arnold said that they didn't contain what the label claimed so this one will be interesting.

I haven't personally tried it yet but I'll start it 23th March along with SUP3R PCT. I'm going to log my run. I rep for Olympus Labs but lifts don't lie - I'm going to take videos from the gym.
 
g0hardorgohom said:
There is not much feedback about STR3NGTH yet. There has been few 5a-hydroxy-laxogenin products out there in the past but Patrick Arnold said that they didn't contain what the label claimed so this one will be interesting.

I haven't personally tried it yet but I'll start it 23th March along with SUP3R PCT. I'm going to log my run. I rep for Olympus Labs but lifts don't lie - I'm going to take videos from the gym.
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Hows the spawn stack?!
 
Mase64 said:
Hows the spawn stack?!
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It's great of course - only tried & proven compounds (methylstenbolone, epistane and trendione). It's not for beginners though - for beginners I'd recommend EP15TANE Perfect Cycle.

The Spawn Stack Complete Cycle contains everything that experienced user needs except a SERM. I'd buy second bottle of AR1MACARE PRO though - you'd be able to take full dose of 4 caps/day through the cycle.

This is how I'd run the spawn stack:

- Stenabol 10/15/15/15/15/15
- EP15TANE 30/45/45/45/45/45
- TR3N 60/60/60/60/60/90 (some people may want to run it at 90mg/day but when stacked with Stenabol and EP15TANE lower dose will be great too).
- AR1MACARE PRO 4 caps/day through the cycle

PCT:
SERM of your choice
SUP3R PCT, taper down the dosage in order to avoid potential estrogen rebound. For example 4/4/3/3/2/1
 
g0hardorgohom said:
It's great of course - only tried & proven compounds (methylstenbolone, epistane and trendione). It's not for beginners though - for beginners I'd recommend EP15TANE Perfect Cycle.

The Spawn Stack Complete Cycle contains everything that experienced user needs except a SERM. I'd buy second bottle of AR1MACARE PRO though - you'd be able to take full dose of 4 caps/day through the cycle.

This is how I'd run the spawn stack:

- Stenabol 10/15/15/15/15/15
- EP15TANE 30/45/45/45/45/45
- TR3N 60/60/60/60/60/90 (some people may want to run it at 90mg/day but when stacked with Stenabol and EP15TANE lower dose will be great too).
- AR1MACARE PRO 4 caps/day through the cycle

PCT:
SERM of your choice
SUP3R PCT, taper down the dosage in order to avoid potential estrogen rebound. For example 4/4/3/3/2/1
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Appreciate the info.. Yea not a beginner will be my 4th run with pro hormones.. havent takn any since PP went out for fda reasons
 
how much rest time you take between each cycle?
Is a 'small' cycle every 6 months good enough ? like 6 weeks of EP15STANE every 6 months?
 
Ephedraboy said:
how much rest time you take between each cycle?
Is a 'small' cycle every 6 months good enough ? like 6 weeks of EP15STANE every 6 months?
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General rule of thumb is time on + PCT = time off. So after a 6 weeker of EP15TANE followed by 4 week long PCT you should take at least 10 weeks off without any steroids or SERMs in your system. More is better of course.
 
g0hardorgohom said:
General rule of thumb is time on + PCT = time off. So after a 6 weeker of EP15TANE followed by 4 week long PCT you should take at least 10 weeks off without any steroids or SERMs in your system. More is better of course.
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Ok , anyway , i'll see how i react to my first cycle.. if everything's good , i'll do the same one some months later.
 
Ephedraboy said:
Ok , anyway , i'll see how i react to my first cycle.. if everything's good , i'll do the same one some months later.
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If you're already having issues with anxiety/depression, it might be smart to consult your doctor first. Steroid will not help with it.

I'm sure other guys here agree with me.
 
I've consulted my doctor since 3 years for that.. psychatre/hypntherpies etc etc , but didn't help .. some of them says it's just a lack of confidence , but no it's not.
I'm not depressed , even if sometimes i'm tired of that anxiety , which make me feel bad.

Anyway , 18 of march , i'll see my endocrinologist , she 'll take a lot of test on me during 2.5 days , for test / cortisol , to see if i have liver problems .
Normaly i have nothing , but that high constant cortisol isnt normal
 
It's possible that DHEA messed up with your cortisol levels. Why would you want to use that in a first place?

Be honest with your doctor and tell him/her that you have been thinking about starting a steroid cycle.
 
g0hardorgohom said:
It's possible that DHEA messed up with your cortisol levels. Why would you want to use that in a first place?

Be honest with your doctor and tell him/her that you have been thinking about starting a steroid cycle.
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I think i will , but scared to see her reaction.

For the DHEA na , 1 year ago i had 400 ^^ and i didn't use Dhea at the time.
If Dhea would have messed my Cortisol level , what can i do to take it to normal range?
 
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